marvin martian
Emperor
How is life in Trumplandia? You must be lonely.
Trump could be the most honest president in modern history
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or as your butt Obama said
"a more transparent, collaborative and participatory government"
that you sucked up as truth
EatTheRich
President
Obama’s was probably the least transparent administration in history till this one came along.
this will really bust some libs hearts here
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/melania-trump-says-president-trumps-alleged-affairs-are-not-concern-and-focus-of-mine/ar-BBOhf01?ocid=spartandhp
YouCantHandleDaTruth
Governor
Disagree,
Again he wasn't perfect but better than average and implemented multiple steps to get there.
A credible source
https://www.historians.org/publications-and-directories/perspectives-on-history/february-2017/how-transparent-was-the-obama-administration
YouCantHandleDaTruth
Governor
You like suckin stuff up, I told you to meet me and gave you date, time and lat \ long ...
Wanna try again?
tia
sear
Mayor
ER #23
I don't know what is meant by that.
But that President Obama was able to keep the UBL / Abadabad raid a secret for a year is quite impressive. Dozens of people could have tipped UBL off, and the raid would have been for naught.
President Carter's hostage rescue attempt in Iran lends Obama's raid context.
Getting it wrong is easy.
Carter proved that in Iran.
Reagan proved that in Beirut.
The elder Bush provided a textbook example of how to do it right, in Kuwait.
Clinton had multiple successful campaigns
The younger Bush demonstrated the wrong way, cost us thousands of troops.
The studious presidents succeed at it.
- uh oh -
I don't know what is meant by that.
But that President Obama was able to keep the UBL / Abadabad raid a secret for a year is quite impressive. Dozens of people could have tipped UBL off, and the raid would have been for naught.
President Carter's hostage rescue attempt in Iran lends Obama's raid context.
Getting it wrong is easy.
Carter proved that in Iran.
Reagan proved that in Beirut.
The elder Bush provided a textbook example of how to do it right, in Kuwait.
Clinton had multiple successful campaigns
The younger Bush demonstrated the wrong way, cost us thousands of troops.
The studious presidents succeed at it.
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He could be, but isn't. He could have the best looking transplant/toupee/scalp reduction surgery of all past American presidents....he doesn't have that going for him either.
sear
Mayor
mv #28
Trump's personality is much easier to understand when we look at Trump's mentor, Roy Cohn.
Roy Cohn participated in the McCarthy hearings, perhaps the most destructive witch-hunt in U.S. political history *.
"Roy Cohn was known by anyone who understood anything about American history as being one of the architects of the most sinister period in American history." *
"They smeared people as communists. They made up charges. They ruined lives. In some cases drove people to suicide. Many people lost their jobs." Marie Brenner / Vanity Fair
Trump's personality is much easier to understand when we look at Trump's mentor, Roy Cohn.
Roy Cohn participated in the McCarthy hearings, perhaps the most destructive witch-hunt in U.S. political history *.
"Roy Cohn was known by anyone who understood anything about American history as being one of the architects of the most sinister period in American history." *
"They smeared people as communists. They made up charges. They ruined lives. In some cases drove people to suicide. Many people lost their jobs." Marie Brenner / Vanity Fair
By modern you mean the last two years?
marvin martian
Emperor
McCarthy was right about a lot of you people.
Liar, you didn't show up
O was a
Nixon: Watergate, Agnew resigns to avoid prison, Nixon resigns to avoid impeachment...the Saturday night massacre.
Reagan: Hud Secretary Sam Pierce takes the 5th in an investigation into $5 billion in missing Hud funds. Deborah Dean went to prison. Iran Contra, North admits he destroyed evidence and smuggled documents out of the pentagon to hide the details of arms sent to Iran. Government money, in violation of the law, is sent to terrorists in Honduras fighting against the government of Nicaragua.
George HW Bush: Immunity for any and all participants in Iran/Contra.
Clinton: Aside from lying about sex....there are the bullshit allegations of all sorts of things...like the travelgate deal. Nothing there.
"W": Lied about WMD in Iraq. Lied about the plan to discredit Joe Wilson by outing his CIA agent wife.
Obama: The IRS stuff...nothing there. Benghazi...terrorist attack kills 4. Wrongdoing by Obama or Clinton? Nope. Wiretap on Page? Legal and authorized by a FISA court.
How you've decided Obama was less transparent is not all that obvious.
Your kind of guy...that's for sure. Hideous.
sear
Mayor
mm #31
Thanks.
But I was born during those hearings. And even the day after the McCarthy hearings were closed, I had not formulated a political position, or even learned a word.
But perhaps such technical details are not of interest to a person whose position on what has been called the most destructive witch-hunt in U.S. history would comment:
Thanks.
But I was born during those hearings. And even the day after the McCarthy hearings were closed, I had not formulated a political position, or even learned a word.
But perhaps such technical details are not of interest to a person whose position on what has been called the most destructive witch-hunt in U.S. history would comment:
You did? LOL And he didn't show? That's hilarious. Who's surprised?
Drumcollie
* See DC's list of Kook posters*
24 percent of Obama's promises were broken like:
Eliminate all oil and gas tax loopholes
Close the Guantanamo Bay Detention Center
Expand the child and dependent care credit
Require publicly traded financial partnerships to pay the corporate income tax
Close loopholes in the corporate tax deductibility of CEO pay
Create a foreclosure prevention fund for homeowners
Provide option for a pre-filled-out tax form
Create a mortgage interest tax credit for non-itemizers
Require automatic enrollment in 401(k) plans
Create a retirement savings tax credit for low incomes
End income tax for seniors making less than $50,000
Create a $60 billion bank to fund roads and bridges
End no-bid contracts above $25,000
Sign the Employee Free Choice Act, making it easier for workers to unionize
Tax carried interest as ordinary income
Lift the payroll tax cap on earnings above $250,000
Forbid companies in bankruptcy from giving executives bonuses
Allow workers to claim more in unpaid wages and benefits in bankruptcy court
Require full disclosure of company pension investments to employees
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/browse/?page=3
If you use this list of Obama broken promises their is a theme...Obama does what will help the wealthy and screws the poor.
Drumcollie
* See DC's list of Kook posters*
and as we see you are still working on that...but don't stop trying.
Back to Kavanaugh again huh?
Drumcollie
* See DC's list of Kook posters*
What were those promises? Can you name the 129 that he did not keep? Do you even know what his promises were?