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Trump declares “emergency” to sell arms to Saudis

Bugsy McGurk

President
The Saudis suck, yet trump wants to do deals with them.I guess he forgot about 9/11
It’s all about the almighty dollar with Trump. He and Kushner have massive financial conflicts of interest with Saudis. They’re “protecting their investments,” the interests of America be damned.
 
Congress opppsed this on a bipartisan basis, but Trump has little interest in Congress. He views himself as a monarch. When Congress tells him no, he just ignores them and declares an “emergency.”

Trump is pissing on Republicans now too. Will they have the balls to oppose their king?

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/05/24/politics/trump-arms-sales-saudi-arabia-uae/index.html
We have been selling arms to the Saudis and other allies for decades, regardless of who is president. You people didn't know this? The government makes billions of dollars doing so.
CNN isn't telling you anything new, it's publishing pure propaganda straight from the DNC.
 
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Deleted member 21794

Guest
We have been selling arms to the Saudis and other allies for decades, regardless of who is president. You people didn't know this? The government makes billions of dollars doing so.
CNN isn't telling you anything new, it's publishing pure propaganda straight from the DNC.
Obama made a $115,000,000,000 weapon a deal with the Saudis.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-saudi-security-idUSKCN11D2JQ

So Bugsy and Co. whining about this is a little silly IMHO.
 

The truth

Council Member
We have been selling arms to the Saudis and other allies for decades, regardless of who is president. You people didn't know this? The government makes billions of dollars doing so.
CNN isn't telling you anything new, it's publishing pure propaganda straight from the DNC.
So, the U.S. Shouldn't sell the Saudis anything.Now run along,and go blame Hillary
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
We have been selling arms to the Saudis and other allies for decades, regardless of who is president. You people didn't know this? The government makes billions of dollars doing so.
CNN isn't telling you anything new, it's publishing pure propaganda straight from the DNC.
Try to focus on the issues.

The issue is not selling arms to the Saudis per se - it’s doing so in violation of the vote of Congress.

Trump acts lawlessly so much you people don’t even realize it anymore.
 

llovejim

Current Champion
We have been selling arms to the Saudis and other allies for decades, regardless of who is president. You people didn't know this? The government makes billions of dollars doing so.
CNN isn't telling you anything new, it's publishing pure propaganda straight from the DNC.
the government doesn't make billions of dollars from selling weapons since the government is not in the weapon making business....rich guys with ties to washington and have had them for years, and their corporations, make billions selling weapons to the foreign countries that our government okays and does get a slice of in the form of any taxes and fees tied to these huge weapon sales, just like when our cars are sold overseas.

You need to try to stay up to date- Congress has always had to authorize foreign sales of weapons, by the Constitution as shown here-

Article I, Section 8

1.To lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

2. To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

3. To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Native American tribes;

4. To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

5. To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

6. To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

7. To establish post offices and post roads;

8. To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;

9. To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

10. To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

11. To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

12. To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

13. To provide and maintain a navy;

14. To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

15. To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

16. To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

17. To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles (16 km) square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings.
 
the government doesn't make billions of dollars from selling weapons since the government is not in the weapon making business....rich guys with ties to washington and have had them for years, and their corporations, make billions selling weapons to the foreign countries that our government okays and does get a slice of in the form of any taxes and fees tied to these huge weapon sales, just like when our cars are sold overseas.

You need to try to stay up to date- Congress has always had to authorize foreign sales of weapons, by the Constitution as shown here-

Article I, Section 8

1.To lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

2. To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

3. To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Native American tribes;

4. To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

5. To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

6. To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

7. To establish post offices and post roads;

8. To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;

9. To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

10. To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

11. To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

12. To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

13. To provide and maintain a navy;

14. To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

15. To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

16. To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

17. To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles (16 km) square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings.
You don't know what you are talking about. The US government has an entire department that sells arms to our allies. I know somebody who works in that department. Yes it does bring in billions. It is fully funded, which means those who work in that department are never affected by government shutdowns. Obviously Congress has already approved it's existence. There. You learned something today.
 
the government doesn't make billions of dollars from selling weapons since the government is not in the weapon making business....rich guys with ties to washington and have had them for years, and their corporations, make billions selling weapons to the foreign countries that our government okays and does get a slice of in the form of any taxes and fees tied to these huge weapon sales, just like when our cars are sold overseas.

You need to try to stay up to date- Congress has always had to authorize foreign sales of weapons, by the Constitution as shown here-

Article I, Section 8

1.To lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

2. To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

3. To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Native American tribes;

4. To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

5. To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

6. To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

7. To establish post offices and post roads;

8. To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;

9. To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

10. To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

11. To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

12. To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

13. To provide and maintain a navy;

14. To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

15. To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

16. To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

17. To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles (16 km) square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings.
Try to focus on the issues.

The issue is not selling arms to the Saudis per se - it’s doing so in violation of the vote of Congress.

Trump acts lawlessly so much you people don’t even realize it anymore.
Bullhonkey:

https://usdepartmentofdefense.weebly.com/foreign-sales.html
 
the government doesn't make billions of dollars from selling weapons since the government is not in the weapon making business....rich guys with ties to washington and have had them for years, and their corporations, make billions selling weapons to the foreign countries that our government okays and does get a slice of in the form of any taxes and fees tied to these huge weapon sales, just like when our cars are sold overseas.

You need to try to stay up to date- Congress has always had to authorize foreign sales of weapons, by the Constitution as shown here-

Article I, Section 8

1.To lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

2. To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

3. To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Native American tribes;

4. To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

5. To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

6. To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

7. To establish post offices and post roads;

8. To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;

9. To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

10. To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

11. To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

12. To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

13. To provide and maintain a navy;

14. To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

15. To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

16. To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

17. To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles (16 km) square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings.
Then explain this:

https://usdepartmentofdefense.weebly.com/foreign-sales.html
 

llovejim

Current Champion
You don't know what you are talking about. The US government has an entire department that sells arms to our allies. I know somebody who works in that department. Yes it does bring in billions. It is fully funded, which means those who work in that department are never affected by government shutdowns. Obviously Congress has already approved it's existence. There. You learned something today.
no, it does not bring in billions TO THE GOVERNMENT...it brings in billions to the companies that make the weapons..do you believe they produce these weapons for free?

Foreign sales have become increasingly critical to U.S. defense companies, who have focused on outside markets as U.S. weapons spending has remained fairly flat. Companies are not allowed to sell weapons directly, with the U.S. government striking deals with foreign countries and then buying the weapons through the normal Pentagon purchasing process.

The total sales are also not entirely money-makers, as about $10 billion of the total sales were actually paid for by the U.S. as part of efforts to bolster allies’ military capabilities.

Foreign sales also are critical to helping keep U.S. costs down on major weapons programs, like the F-35 fighter. That aircraft, the most expensive weapon program in history, has 12 foreign buyers thus far including six that have already received planes. By selling larger numbers, Lockheed Martin, the plane’s manufacturer, says that the cost per plane can be reduced.

https://www.newsweek.com/us-sold-42-billion-weapons-foreign-governments-2017-727808
 
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