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Trump infrastructure plan will only widen the gap between thriving America and dying America

Spamature

President
Face it suckers. Private companies are not going to build toll roads that lead to the middle of nowhere. That means Trump voters will likely see few jobs and / or little revitalization from his infrastructure kickback scheme.


I wonder how many times he'll take you dopes ....err... Trump voters to cleaners before you wake up and realized you were scammed ?
 

Barbella

Senator
Face it suckers. Private companies are not going to build toll roads that lead to the middle of nowhere. That means Trump voters will likely see few jobs and / or little revitalization from his infrastructure kickback scheme.


I wonder how many times he'll take you dopes ....err... Trump voters to cleaners before you wake up and realized you were scammed ?
You DO realize that building roads to nowhere are nothing but pork barrel spending, right? I mean, why else would anyone do that?
 

Spamature

President
You DO realize that building roads to nowhere are nothing but pork barrel spending, right? I mean, why else would anyone do that?
Likely for the kickbacks in Trump's case. Or at least to put his stubby little fingers in the federal pie no doubt after overcharging Uncle Sam.
 

Spamature

President
Why would anyone want to build toll roads that lead to the middle of nowhere?
To get paid for building a road to no where. Trumps plan is to pay them and let them keep ownership of what they build. Of course they'll want to make more money and building in thriving areas. That leaves much of Trumpland high and dry as they wither away.
 

Barbella

Senator
Likely for the kickbacks in Trump's case. Or at least to put his stubby little fingers in the federal pie no doubt after overcharging Uncle Sam.
Oh what bullshit. Democrats have built 'roads to nowhere' for decades, and Trump had nothing to do with it. How do you spew this kind of crap without choking?
 

Spamature

President
Oh what bullshit. Democrats have built 'roads to nowhere' for decades, and Trump had nothing to do with it. How do you spew this kind of crap without choking?
Democrats have never proposed what Trump is proposing. He wants to privatize our infrastructure to benefit his developer friends and family.
 

Spamature

President
They'll probably do it quicker, cheaper, and better than the feds. Stop complaining.
Cheaper in quality and quicker to make that quick buck. Actually most construction is done by private contractors. The difference is the people own the roads instead of Trump's cronies. Now he and his want to own and profit from what used to belong to all Americans.
 
Face it suckers. Private companies are not going to build toll roads that lead to the middle of nowhere. That means Trump voters will likely see few jobs and / or little revitalization from his infrastructure kickback scheme.


I wonder how many times he'll take you dopes ....err... Trump voters to cleaners before you wake up and realized you were scammed ?
Silly rabbit.

Trump infrastructure plan is private money and tax credits

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Trump’s plan calls for tax relief for private businesses that invest in infrastructure projects. In doing so, the plan said, the national debt would not increase. Heidi Crebo-Rediker, senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and CEO of International Capital Strategies, said private investment can be good, but this plan only includes private investment.
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http://www.marketplace.org/2016/11/11/world/trumps-infrastructure-plan-all-private-investment
 
They'll probably do it quicker, cheaper, and better than the feds. Stop complaining.
And it's great that Trump's friends are American real estate developers, rather than foreign heads of terror states like someone else who ran for president this year...hint, hint...
 

Spamature

President
Silly rabbit.

Trump infrastructure plan is private money and tax credits

...
Trump’s plan calls for tax relief for private businesses that invest in infrastructure projects. In doing so, the plan said, the national debt would not increase. Heidi Crebo-Rediker, senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and CEO of International Capital Strategies, said private investment can be good, but this plan only includes private investment.
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http://www.marketplace.org/2016/11/11/world/trumps-infrastructure-plan-all-private-investment
80% of it is funded by the taxpayers through those credits. And one more time, the people will not own the finished project. Instead they will have to pay these private companies for the use of something they've already paid for the lion share of its completion. And with sudden "cost over runs" in actuality the public will probably end up paying for the entire cost of these projects.
 
Nope and private contractors won't build them if it means taking a hit in tolls. Those redstate Ford f150's will still be driving on dirt when all is said and done.
I think you're confused about how most people in this country live. You need to get outside the bubble once in a while.
 

Spamature

President
I think you're confused about how most people in this country live. You need to get outside the bubble once in a while.
You need to wake up and realize hating America wasn't a solution to your problems and that you got took by a NY elitist / full time scam artist. One who thinks of you as a bunch of losers and used to say that about you before he decided to use you to get elected.
 
80% of it is funded by the taxpayers through those credits. And one more time, the people will not own the finished project. Instead they will have to pay these private companies for the use of something they've already paid for the lion share of its completion. And with sudden "cost over runs" in actuality the public will probably end up paying for the entire cost of these projects.
When an airport fixes a runway or a terminal or an power generation company fixes a dam you'd be paying for it anyways.

And besides WE as a country are broke ass $20T in debt. How the fvck would you do it? Carve a pound of flesh from one of your children?

Did ya even click the link in the article?

http://peternavarro.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/infrastructurereport.pdf

The Trump Private Sector Financing Plan The Trump infrastructure plan features a major private sector, revenue neutral option to help finance a significant share of the nation’s infrastructure needs. For infrastructure construction to be financeable privately, it needs a revenue stream from which to pay operating costs, the interest and principal on the debt, and the dividends on the equity. The difficulty with forecasting that revenue stream arises from trying to determine what the pricing, utilization rates, and operating costs will be over the decades. Therefore, an equity cushion to absorb such risk is required by lenders. The size of the required equity cushion will of course vary with the riskiness of the project. However, we are assuming that, on average, prudent leverage will be about five times equity. Therefore, financing a trillion dollars of infrastructure would necessitate an equity investment of $167 billion, obviously a daunting sum. We also assume that the interest rate in today’s markets will be 4.5% to 5.0% with constant total monthly payments of principal and interest over a 20- to 30-year period. The equity will require a payment stream equivalent to as much as a 9% to 10% rate of return over the same time periods. To encourage investors to commit such large amounts, and to reduce the cost of the financing, government would provide a tax credit equal to 82% of the equity amount. This would lower the cost of financing the project by 18% to 20% for two reasons. First, the tax credit reduces the total amount of investor financing by 13.7%, that is, by 82% of 16.7%. The elegance of the tax credit is that the full amount of the equity investment remains as a cushion beneath the debt, but from the investor point of view, 82 percent of the commitment has been returned. This means that the investor will not require a rate of return on the tax credited capital. Equity is the most expensive part of the financing; it requires twice as high a return as the debt portion, 9 to 10% as compared to 4.5 to 5.0%. Therefore, the 13 percent effective reduction in the amount of financing actually reduces the total cost of financing by 18 to 20 percent. By effectively reducing the equity component through the tax credit, this similarly reduces the revenues needed to service the financing and thereby improves the project’s feasibility. These tax credits offered by the government would be repaid from the incremental tax revenues that result from project construction in a design that results in revenue neutrality. Two identifiable revenue streams for repayment are critical here: (1) the tax revenues from additional wage income, and (2) the tax revenues from additional contractor profits. 5 For example, labor's compensation from the projects will be at least 44 percent. At a 28 percent tax rate, this would yield 12.32% of the project cost in new revenues. Second, assuming contractors earn a fairly typical 10 percent average profit margin, this would yield 1.5% more in new tax revenues based on the Trump business tax rate of 15 percent. Combining these two revenue streams does indeed make the Trump plan fully revenue neutral with 13.82 percent of project cost recovered via income taxes versus 13.7 percent in tax credits. An Example To look at this at a more granular level, conventional financing would require total payments of $1,625 per thousand dollars of project cost if the final maturity were twenty years at 4.5% and the equity got a 9% rate of return over the same period. However, with an 82% tax credit, the payments would be reduced to $1,330, an 18.1% reduction. If the respective rates instead were 5% and 10% and the final maturity 30 years, the respective payments would be $2,138 and $1,705, a savings of 20.2%. Note that this tax credit reduces the risk of loss to the equity yet it still leaves investors with skin in the game. In effect, this tax credit approach means that major revenue shortfalls could occur without impinging on either the debt or the equity. The tax arithmetic is likewise straightforward. 16.67% of project cost is the equity component, so the 82% tax credit equals 13.69% of project cost. The labor content of construction would be at least the 44% share the Congressional Budget Office attributes to the GDP. Taxing it at the 28% rate (21% plus 7% for the trust) yields 12.32% of tax revenues. There also would be a 10% pretax profit margin for the contractor. Taxing that at the 15% business rate yields 1.5% of project cost. Adding that to the taxes on wages yields 13.82%, slightly above the 13.69% tax credit. Note that the risk of a major shortfall is limited because contractors operate on a cost-plus basis. Alternatively, if they commit to a fixed price, they build in a large margin for error. Importantly for the government budget, there will not be much of a time gap between the granting of the credit and receipt of the tax payments under the Trump plan. A Tax Policy/Repatriation Interaction As a synergistic interaction with Donald Trump’s proposed tax reforms, and to further incentivize the flow of private capital into the development of America’s infrastructure, there is this additional possibility: Companies paying the ten percent tax on the repatriation of overseas retained earnings could use the tax credit on infrastructure equity investment to offset their tax liability on bringing the money back. This would effectively convert a tax liability into an equity investment in an infrastructure project. The mechanics of this are straightforward: Repatriate $1 billion, incurring $100 million of tax, and invest $121 billion in the equity of an infrastructure project. The 82 percent tax credit on the $121 thereby fully extinguishes the repatriation tax so at the end of the day 6 they have a $121 million infrastructure equity investment and no tax bill while the US has more and new infrastructure. Any revenues in excess of the basic amounts needed to support the financing, as well as any long term residual values remaining after full repayment of the financing could go for recoupment of the extra $100 million. For the routine tax payer those same amounts would simply represent additions to the basic rate of return
 

Spamature

President
When an airport fixes a runway or a terminal or an power generation company fixes a dam you'd be paying for it anyways.

And besides WE as a country are broke ass $20T in debt. How the fvck would you do it? Carve a pound of flesh from one of your children?
You realize Trump wants to borrow $1 trillion dollars to do this right ?
I would do it the way we have always done it. Pay companies to build it FOR US !
Trump wants to pay companies to build this stuff for THEMSELVES then RENT / LEASE IT TO US !
 
You need to wake up and realize hating America wasn't a solution to your problems and that you got took by a NY elitist / full time scam artist. One who thinks of you as a bunch of losers and used to say that about you before he decided to use you to get elected.

and more...

The Trump Plan In Historical Context Historically, much of America’s infrastructure financing has been done through public authority issuance of bonds, the interest on which is tax-exempt to the recipient. There are three problems with this approach. First, somewhat lower quality revenue stream projects need an equity component or a guarantee by a creditworthy public authority or municipality. These are becoming scarcer. Second, construction costs tend to be higher when projects are built by the government rather than the private sector – one of the authors has observed this first hand over a long period of time and over multiple venues. These higher construction costs more than offset the benefit of lower interest rates, especially in today’s low rate environment when spreads between taxable and tax-free bonds are so small. Third, not all projects may meet the complex eligibility rules. For example, public bonds need to be issued in relatively large amounts so that there is a reasonable after market. The money must also be spent on the project within a certain amount of time relative to the date the bonds are issued. These restrictions limit the extent to which the drawdown of the funds can be matched to the construction schedule. In today's especially low short-term rate environment this means the project will have to pay a negative interest rate arbitrage on money it actually doesn't need yet or get a short term construction loan and run the risk that interest rates will rise between the date that the loan is taken down and the date of the long term refinancing. In the tax exempt market it is expensive to obtain fixed rate commitments years before the draw down. Trump’s core concept of tax relief to facilitate project investment is not especially new. It has been used historically to target real estate investment. However, the concept of offsetting a major portion of project cost with income tax credits that are repaid as issued by means of the tax revenues generated just by the construction is new. Because the combination is revenue neutral, whatever taxes flow from the actual operation of the new infrastructure will be additive to tax revenues. We believe that this tax credit-assisted program could help finance up to a trillion dollars’ worth of projects over a ten-year period. This innovative financing option would serve as a critical supplement to existing financing programs, public-private partnerships, Build America Bonds, and other prudent funding opportunities. 7 The Trump Plan would also provide maximum flexibility to the states and employ incentivebased contracting where appropriate to ensure projects are on time and on budget. It would link increases in spending to reforms that streamline permitting and approvals, improve the project delivery system, and cut wasteful spending on boondoggle bridges and highways to nowhere. The plan also could be applied whether the facility was operated by the government, the private sector, or in a public-private partnership.
 
You realize Trump wants to borrow $1 trillion dollars to do this right ?
I would do it the way we have always done it. Hire companies to build it FOR US !
Trump wants to hire companies to build this stuff for THEMSELVES and RENT / LEASE IT TO US !
Forever or until the project is paid for (with interest).

Read the freaking link before you go off saying shit. You could then bitch about it being a great financial idea but the ownership couldn't be in perpetuity. Buy yourself a clue. :0)
 
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