Trump orders strike on Iran, abruptly pulls back

[ObamacareForever]

That makes absolutely no sense. But I guess overall you are being consistent in that.

Trump doesn't really have any realistic options besides war. He has zero capability to de-escalate the situation.

 

[MrMike]

You’re gonna have to build reality into your questions if you expect any response beyond ridicule.

I accept your utter surrender to a valid question based on fact and logic.

Have a nice day!

 

[MrMike]

Trump doesn't really have any realistic options besides war. He has zero capability to de-escalate the situation.

And you know this how?

 

[ObamacareForever]

And you know this how?

Trump hasn't de-escalated anything in 2.5 years.

 

[PhilFish]

- Iran has a say in it.

That's not realistic.
Which would escalate into war
Iran doesn't seem particularly interested in dialogue.

So...Iran won't negotiate, but it's Trump's fault negotiating is not occurring?

 

[ObamacareForever]

So...Iran won't negotiate, but it's Trump's fault negotiating is not occurring?

Yes, The buck stops with him.

 

[Spamature]

President Trump reportedly gave the order to bomb Iran on Thursday night in response to its “unprovoked” downing of a US drone — even going so far as to put planes in the air and ships in position to strike — before eventually changing his mind, officials say.

https://nypost.com/2019/06/20/trump-approved-strikes-on-iran-before-changing-his-mind-report/

Like a teen boy practicing coitus interruptus. Sheesh.

Maybe he thinks America is running low on Gold Star families.

 

[PhilFish]

Yes, The buck stops with him.

Yes.

So he stopped the order to bomb

That's good?

 

[ObamacareForever]

Yes.

So he stopped the order to bomb

That's good?

He didn't escalate a mess of his own creation. bravo!

 

[Spamature]

So...Iran won't negotiate, but it's Trump's fault negotiating is not occurring?

They've already negotiated with the US. and 5 other nations. And guess which 5 countries don't want to do it all over again just so that Trump can feed his ODS.

 

[PhilFish]

He didn't escalate a mess of his own creation. bravo!

Huh?

Iran attacking ships is of their creation.

 

[ObamacareForever]

Huh?

Iran attacking ships is of their creation.

Yea... Trump's Iran policy lead us this point. Relations have deteriorated to the point of war because that's what Republicans wanted all along.

 

[PhilFish]

Yea... Trump's Iran policy lead us this point. Relations have deteriorated to the point of war because that's what Republicans wanted all along.

Hmm. Ok.

 

[MrMike]

Trump hasn't de-escalated anything in 2.5 years.

ISIS seems pretty de-escalated these days and *cough cough* North Korea which is a work in progress (aren't they all?)

But I find your soothsaying on all of this to be on more of a national level politically driven motivation than that of someone actually concerned for the common good of folks on either side of the equation (USA, Iran, others).

How sad...

 

[marvin martian]

You’re gonna have to build reality into your questions if you expect any response beyond ridicule.

DODGE BOY!

 

[ObamacareForever]

ISIS seems pretty de-escalated these days and *cough cough* North Korea which is a work in progress (aren't they all?)

But I find your soothsaying on all of this to be on more of a national level politically driven motivation than that of someone actually concerned for the common good of folks on either side of the equation (USA, Iran, others).

How sad...

I stand corrected... He did manage to de-escalate his twitter feud with Kim-Jong Un.

He said he would get a better deal with Iran
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1368/renegotiate-iran-deal/

and by every objective standard he failed, and things are moving in the opposite direction.

 

[marvin martian]

He didn't escalate a mess of his own creation. bravo!

Even you're not dumb enough to believe Iran wasn't a problem before Trump. I refuse to believe that.

 

[ObamacareForever]

Even you're not dumb enough to believe Iran wasn't a problem before Trump. I refuse to believe that.

Trump made things worse.

 

[Dino]

Even you're not dumb enough to believe Iran wasn't a problem before Trump. I refuse to believe that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–U.S._RQ-170_incident

At least Trump's drone wasn't over Iranian airspace.

 

[MrMike]

I stand corrected... He did manage to de-escalate his twitter feud with Kim-Jong Un.

He said he would get a better deal with Iran
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1368/renegotiate-iran-deal/

and by every objective standard he failed, and things are moving in the opposite direction.

What "objective standards" are you using to measure success?

Do you feel an objective standard of success is unilaterally (bypassing congress) and secretly sending billions in cash to Iran so they can further arm themselves and their proxies?

Would that work for you if Trump did that?