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Trump Successfully Baits Democrats

JackDallas

Senator
Supporting Member
"In classic Trumpian maneuver, President Trump yesterday chummed the waters of the House Democratic Caucus with raw meat the impeachment-crazed radicals driving Nancy Pelosi – who really doesn’t want to talk about impeachment -- to distraction. He also laid the groundwork for the coming prosecutions on the Russia Hoax.

In a clip that already has been endlessly run on every news channel, he told George Stephanopoulos of ABC News that he would not necessarily turn down information on his opponent form a foreign source or call in the FBI."

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/06/trump_successfully_baits_his_foes_with_comments_to_stephanopoulos_on_foreign_information_on_opponents.html

Now that Trump has the Democrats on record as saying that getting dirt on an opponent is wrong, how will the Democrats defend their Russian dossier and collusion?
 

JackDallas

Senator
Supporting Member
Trump ignores the law. That's what "no values, no morals" people do.

"It shall be unlawful for a foreign national directly or through any other person to make any contribution of money or other thing of value, or to promise expressly or impliedly to make any such contribution, in connection with an election to any political office or in connection with any primary election, convention, or caucus held to select candidates for any political office; or for any person to solicit, accept, or receive any such contribution from a foreign national."

http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:52 section:30121 editionrelim)
Hillary Clinton financed her entire campaign with foreign money. I don't expect you are concerned about that.
 

JackDallas

Senator
Supporting Member
"In classic Trumpian maneuver, President Trump yesterday chummed the waters of the House Democratic Caucus with raw meat the impeachment-crazed radicals driving Nancy Pelosi – who really doesn’t want to talk about impeachment -- to distraction. He also laid the groundwork for the coming prosecutions on the Russia Hoax.

In a clip that already has been endlessly run on every news channel, he told George Stephanopoulos of ABC News that he would not necessarily turn down information on his opponent form a foreign source or call in the FBI."

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/06/trump_successfully_baits_his_foes_with_comments_to_stephanopoulos_on_foreign_information_on_opponents.html

Now that Trump has the Democrats on record as saying that getting dirt on an opponent is wrong, how will the Democrats defend their Russian dossier and collusion?
They might try the old Obama-tested and proven evasion technique: Just say you didn't say it. Those video clips are faked.
 
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Mick

The Right is always right
1. There was no contact between the Clinton campaign and the Russian government.
The existence of the dossier filled with all sorts of lies and propaganda sourced to Russia says otherwise.
. In fact the Clinton campaign did not receive dirt from Steele....if you would check your facts, Steele delivered the report to McCain.
McCain wasn't involved with the dossier until December 2016. The Clinton campaign and her allies in the Obama DOJ had their paws on it beginning in the summer of 2016. It was part of the October 2016 FISA warrant targeting Carter Page and the Trump campaign.


There was no cooperation (collusion) between the Russian government and the Clinton campaign.
Paying for dirt from the Russians, receiving nasty lies and dirt from the Russians who were intending to hurt Trump with it, and then having your buddies use it to engage in political spying and investigating of your political enemies is textbook collusion. Even if you try to spread the far-fetched narrative that Hillary had no idea at all what sordid undertaking Fusion GPS and Christopher Steele were doing with her 9 million bucks she certainly knew when the dossier came back. They used it anyway.
3. Carter Page was Hillary's opponent? No kiddin?
We've already been over this. The FISA warrant allowed them to go back and look at earlier communications.....like emails and text messages. It gave the politicized Obama DOJ inside access to the campaign of their political enemies. Egregious abuse of power. The type of things you would see in left wing socialist or communist banana republics.
 

Mick

The Right is always right
On page 188 he is talking specifically about the Trump Tower meeting...not the emails stolen from the DNC email server and delivered to Wikileaks on Trump's behalf.
Neither the emails nor the Trump Tower bit had any measurable monetary value because you cannot measure propaganda. However, the hacking of the DNC servers was an illegal act. The Trump campaign had no role in that.

We've been over all this time and time again. Mueller report has, too. Lord, you are dumb. Lulz
 

JackDallas

Senator
Supporting Member
That lie-packed winger screed concerns the Clinton Foundation. Your absurd lie above was that Hillary financed her entire campaign with foreign money.

You’re getting your lies mixed up.
The Clinton family used the Clinton Crime Foundation money like it was a slush fund.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Neither the emails nor the Trump Tower bit had any measurable monetary value because you cannot measure propaganda. However, the hacking of the DNC servers was an illegal act. The Trump campaign had no role in that.

We've been over all this time and time again. Mueller report has, too. Lord, you are dumb. Lulz
The point is that the Mueller report did not address either the value of the emails released through Wiki nor the troll farm efforts on Trump's behalf.
 

Mick

The Right is always right
The Clinton family used the Clinton Crime Foundation money like it was a slush fund.
And pay to play. Foreign donations to the Clinton Foundation were sky high in 2016. After she lost the election many of those donations dried up.
 

Mick

The Right is always right
The point is that the Mueller report did not address either the value of the emails released through Wiki nor the troll farm efforts on Trump's behalf.
Which gets us back to the initial point. Mueller said he couldn't value dirt. There is nothing wrong with "listening" for dirt. Thanks for proving us correct again, dunce. Lulz
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
"Russia, if you're listening, hack into Hillary's emails." And the Russians did that very same day.
Trump solicited and accepted help from foreign govt Russia in 2016 and said he'd do it again. That's against the law.
Hillary didn't solicit or accept help from a foreign govt.
The Trump campaign had 140+ contacts with Russians.....and they lied about every one of those contacts. Why?

"It shall be unlawful for a foreign national directly or through any other person to make any contribution of money or other thing of value, or to promise expressly or impliedly to make any such contribution, in connection with an election to any political office or in connection with any primary election, convention, or caucus held to select candidates for any political office; or for any person to solicit, accept, or receive any such contribution from a foreign national."

http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:52 section:30121 editionrelim)
 
If I pay someone to gather intel and some is from people in another country it is not the same if a representative of another country donates information to help your campaign. I'm sure you see the difference and just don't want to admit it.
If it rains in April is it still hot in hell? Better yet, if it's hot in hell will it rain in June?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
The existence of the dossier filled with all sorts of lies and propaganda sourced to Russia says otherwise.


McCain wasn't involved with the dossier until December 2016. The Clinton campaign and her allies in the Obama DOJ had their paws on it beginning in the summer of 2016. It was part of the October 2016 FISA warrant targeting Carter Page and the Trump campaign.


Paying for dirt from the Russians, receiving nasty lies and dirt from the Russians who were intending to hurt Trump with it, and then having your buddies use it to engage in political spying and investigating of your political enemies is textbook collusion. Even if you try to spread the far-fetched narrative that Hillary had no idea at all what sordid undertaking Fusion GPS and Christopher Steele were doing with her 9 million bucks she certainly knew when the dossier came back. They used it anyway.


We've already been over this. The FISA warrant allowed them to go back and look at earlier communications.....like emails and text messages. It gave the politicized Obama DOJ inside access to the campaign of their political enemies. Egregious abuse of power. The type of things you would see in left wing socialist or communist banana republics.
1. Show evidence that the Clinton campaign had the Steele report in the summer of 2016.
How did the Clinton campaign use the Steele dossier?

2. The FISA warrant was for Carter Page and not the Trump campaign.

3. Tell me how you go back in time to retrieve email or phone calls from the past.


By October 2016, Steele had compiled 33 pages (16 memos), and he then passed on what he had discovered to David Corn, a reporter from Mother Jones magazine. On October 31, 2016, a week before the election, Mother Jones reported that a former intelligence officer, whom they did not name, had produced a report based on Russian sources and turned it over to the FBI.[45] The article disclosed some of the dossier's allegations:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump–Russia_dossier#Hints_of_existence
 

Nutty Cortez

Dummy (D) NY
"Russia, if you're listening, hack into Hillary's emails." And the Russians did that very same day.
Trump solicited and accepted help from foreign govt Russia in 2016 and said he'd do it again. That's against the law.
Hillary didn't solicit or accept help from a foreign govt.
The Trump campaign had 140+ contacts with Russians.....and they lied about every one of those contacts. Why?

"It shall be unlawful for a foreign national directly or through any other person to make any contribution of money or other thing of value, or to promise expressly or impliedly to make any such contribution, in connection with an election to any political office or in connection with any primary election, convention, or caucus held to select candidates for any political office; or for any person to solicit, accept, or receive any such contribution from a foreign national."

http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:52 section:30121 editionrelim)
Julie. It was a JOKE at a campaign stop. Anyone with an I.Q. over 12 knows that.
And no they didn't 'hack' anything the very next day.

Why do you so easily believe BS ?
 

Nutty Cortez

Dummy (D) NY
1. Show evidence that the Clinton campaign had the Steele report in the summer of 2016.
How did the Clinton campaign use the Steele dossier?

2. The FISA warrant was for Carter Page and not the Trump campaign.

3. Tell me how you go back in time to retrieve email or phone calls from the past.


By October 2016, Steele had compiled 33 pages (16 memos), and he then passed on what he had discovered to David Corn, a reporter from Mother Jones magazine. On October 31, 2016, a week before the election, Mother Jones reported that a former intelligence officer, whom they did not name, had produced a report based on Russian sources and turned it over to the FBI.[45] The article disclosed some of the dossier's allegations:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump–Russia_dossier#Hints_of_existence

Wikipedia ? lol

The then-senior Department of Justice (DOJ) official briefed both senior FBI and DOJ officials in summer 2016 about Christopher Steele’s Russia dossier, explicitly cautioning that the British intelligence operative’s work was opposition research connected to Hillary Clinton’s campaign and might be biased.
 
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