Trump Successfully Baits Democrats

[middleview]

Which gets us back to the initial point. Mueller said he couldn't value dirt. There is nothing wrong with "listening" for dirt. Thanks for proving us correct again, dunce. Lulz

1. There was no dirt made available to the Trump campaign in the Trump Tower meeting.
That was the only reference in the Mueller report to monetary value.

2. Nothing wrong? Cool. Let Trump admit he or his surrogates met with Russian government officials or GRU agents looking for dirt on Hillary. Let's see how that plays out.

 

[Alinvegas]

Did you walk to work or pack a lunch.

I rode a horse and fed the dogs

 

[Mick]

It wasn’t the very next day - it was that same day.

There was no "hack" on either day. Nothing was breached. **Edited**

And, yes, it was a joke. Even Mueller acknowledged that. **Edited**

 

[Spamature]

"In classic Trumpian maneuver, President Trump yesterday chummed the waters of the House Democratic Caucus with raw meat the impeachment-crazed radicals driving Nancy Pelosi – who really doesn’t want to talk about impeachment -- to distraction. He also laid the groundwork for the coming prosecutions on the Russia Hoax.

In a clip that already has been endlessly run on every news channel, he told George Stephanopoulos of ABC News that he would not necessarily turn down information on his opponent form a foreign source or call in the FBI."

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/06/trump_successfully_baits_his_foes_with_comments_to_stephanopoulos_on_foreign_information_on_opponents.html

Now that Trump has the Democrats on record as saying that getting dirt on an opponent is wrong, how will the Democrats defend their Russian dossier and collusion?

One more time

https://www.politicaljack.com/threads/russian-if-youre-listening.122176/page-2#post-2449838

 

[Mick]

1. There was no dirt made available to the Trump campaign in the Trump Tower meeting.
That was the only reference in the Mueller report to monetary value.

Right. Mueller said he couldn't ascertain the value of "dirt" and that's why no campaign finance violation was warranted. Not only was no dirt shared but Mueller said no one could value it to begin with which is why no one was charged with intent to commit campaign finance violation. Wake up, dummy.

2. Nothing wrong? Cool. Let Trump admit he or his surrogates met with Russian government officials or GRU agents looking for dirt on Hillary. Let's see how that plays out.

They already did. It was called Trump tower meeting. It was dismissed as a nothingburger. Dimwit.

 

[Mick]

1. Show evidence that the Clinton campaign had the Steele report in the summer of 2016.
How did the Clinton campaign use the Steele dossier?

So, your position is Hillary Clinton paid $9 million but had no clue while Clapper, Brennan, Comey, McCabe, Lynch and the rest of their ilk were all over the dirt she spent millions for?

ROFL

2. The FISA warrant was for Carter Page and not the Trump campaign.

The campaign being a target is mentioned in the application. Like we said, all old emails and texts can be accessed.

3. Tell me how you go back in time to retrieve email or phone calls from the past.

No one said phone calls. Texts and emails readily available, however. This isn't hard, dullard.

By October 2016, Steele had compiled 33 pages (16 memos), and he then passed on what he had discovered to David Corn, a reporter from Mother Jones magazine. On October 31, 2016, a week before the election, Mother Jones reported that a former intelligence officer, whom they did not name, had produced a report based on Russian sources and turned it over to the FBI.[45] The article disclosed some of the dossier's allegations:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump–Russia_dossier#Hints_of_existence

This has nothing to do with any of this. Dumb reference.

 

[middleview]

So, your position is Hillary Clinton paid $9 million but had no clue while Clapper, Brennan, Comey, McCabe, Lynch and the rest of their ilk were all over the dirt she spent millions for?

ROFL

The campaign being a target is mentioned in the application. Like we said, all old emails and texts can be accessed.



No one said phone calls. Texts and emails readily available, however. This isn't hard, dullard.


This has nothing to do with any of this. Dumb reference.

You just make this shit up as you go....start with showing that the Clinton campaign paid Steele $9 million bucks. Got proof?

 

[middleview]

The campaign being a target is mentioned in the application. Like we said, all old emails and texts can be accessed.



No one said phone calls. Texts and emails readily available, however. This isn't hard, dullard.

As I've responded in each thread making the assumption that it is so easy to get communications from the distant past....where would you go to get email from 2016 if you had a warrant today?

 

[middleview]

By October 2016, Steele had compiled 33 pages (16 memos), and he then passed on what he had discovered to David Corn, a reporter from Mother Jones magazine. On October 31, 2016, a week before the election, Mother Jones reported that a former intelligence officer, whom they did not name, had produced a report based on Russian sources and turned it over to the FBI.[45] The article disclosed some of the dossier's allegations:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump–Russia_dossier#Hints_of_existence

This has nothing to do with any of this. Dumb reference.

You claimed the Clinton campaign had the dossier by August and used against Trump. No they didn't.

 

[Mick]

You claimed the Clinton campaign had the dossier by August and used against Trump. No they didn't.

Certainly they did. John Brennan was using it:

"Knowing his role as CIA head forbade him from intervening in domestic spying and trying to take the investigation from a low simmer to a high boil, Brennan got the ball rolling in August of 2016 by telling then former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid a tale of Russians interfering in our election on Trump's behalf.
It worked. Pushed on by Brennan, Reid, wrote a letter to FBI Director James Comey citing "evidence of a direct connection" between the Trump campaign and seeking an investigation.

Not only did Brennan share intelligence with the FBI, but soon after, the Democrat-linked opposition research firm Fusion GPS began leaking the "Trump Dossier" to the media."

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/russia-trump-collusion-investigation/

 

[Mick]

As I've responded in each thread making the assumption that it is so easy to get communications from the distant past.

It wasn't "distant past". When the first FISA warrant was approved Page was only a few weeks removed from working for the campaign. Texts and emails would have been readily available.

 

[middleview]

Right. Mueller said he couldn't ascertain the value of "dirt" and that's why no campaign finance violation was warranted. Not only was no dirt shared but Mueller said no one could value it to begin with which is why no one was charged with intent to commit campaign finance violation. Wake up, dummy.



They already did. It was called Trump tower meeting. It was dismissed as a nothingburger. Dimwit.

Trump claimed the conversation was not about Clinton...is was supposedly about
something unrelated to the campaign and Don Jr. didn't even tell the Donald about it until much later...

Appropriate that you are now signing your posts "Dimwit".

 

[middleview]

It wasn't "distant past". When the first FISA warrant was approved Page was only a few weeks removed from working for the campaign. Texts and emails would have been readily available.

Where would you find old email?

 

[middleview]

Deleted

The NY Post says it so it must be true, eh? Notice that they do not provide a source for their info.

Federal records show that Hillary Clinton’s official campaign organization, Hillary For America, paid just under $5.1 million to Perkins Coie in 2016. The DNC paid nearly $5.4 million to the law firm in 2016.

That was for all legal services related to the campaign, including what was paid to Steele.

In total, Perkins Coie paid Fusion GPS $1.02 million in fees and expenses, of which Fusion GPS paid Orbis $168,000 to produce the dossier.[34] The DNC and Clinton campaign disclosed the total amount paid to Perkins Coie on campaign finance reports.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-dossier/ex-british-spy-paid-168000-for-trump-dossier-u-s-firm-discloses-idUSKBN1D15XH

 

[middleview]

Certainly they did. John Brennan was using it:

"Knowing his role as CIA head forbade him from intervening in domestic spying and trying to take the investigation from a low simmer to a high boil, Brennan got the ball rolling in August of 2016 by telling then former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid a tale of Russians interfering in our election on Trump's behalf.
It worked. Pushed on by Brennan, Reid, wrote a letter to FBI Director James Comey citing "evidence of a direct connection" between the Trump campaign and seeking an investigation.

Not only did Brennan share intelligence with the FBI, but soon after, the Democrat-linked opposition research firm Fusion GPS began leaking the "Trump Dossier" to the media."

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/russia-trump-collusion-investigation/

We knew by August of 2016 that the Russians had hacked the DNC server and were releasing emails stolen from that server to wikileaks. So where in your link does it show that Brennan (who was not part of the Clinton campaign) had the dossier? It doesn't.
Your link seems outraged that President Obama pushed for an investigation...I'd have been outraged if he didn't. We were seeing Russian hacks on election related systems in various states. Should Obama have ordered our FBI and CIA to stand down?

 

[EatTheRich]

ROFLOL He played YOU pal, not me. How so?
Fact: the "Steele" dossier is oppo research, provided by the Russians and paid for by Hillary. The attorney general has the proof. This information is already public knowledge, the real collusion was the Democrats and Russia, and when people start being prosecuted for it, the media will have to cover it and the Democrats won't be able to run from their hypocrisy and lies.
Then who's going to be foolish enough to vote Democrat?

1. Steele was not Russian.
2. The dossier was not paid for by nor given to Clinton. Nor was it opposition research. It was a national security dossier compiled after Steele , in the course of ordinary opposition research, stumbled on a bigger story, and provided to a pro-Trump Senator.

 

[EatTheRich]

The existence of the dossier filled with all sorts of lies and propaganda sourced to Russia says otherwise.


McCain wasn't involved with the dossier until December 2016. The Clinton campaign and her allies in the Obama DOJ had their paws on it beginning in the summer of 2016. It was part of the October 2016 FISA warrant targeting Carter Page and the Trump campaign.


Paying for dirt from the Russians, receiving nasty lies and dirt from the Russians who were intending to hurt Trump with it, and then having your buddies use it to engage in political spying and investigating of your political enemies is textbook collusion. Even if you try to spread the far-fetched narrative that Hillary had no idea at all what sordid undertaking Fusion GPS and Christopher Steele were doing with her 9 million bucks she certainly knew when the dossier came back. They used it anyway.


We've already been over this. The FISA warrant allowed them to go back and look at earlier communications.....like emails and text messages. It gave the politicized Obama DOJ inside access to the campaign of their political enemies. Egregious abuse of power. The type of things you would see in left wing socialist or communist banana republics.

1. The dossier was the product of spying on Russia. Can you demonstrate that it contains a single lie?
2. The FBI got the dossier from McCain. If its purpose had been to affect the election, it would have been used before the election, the way the Russians leaked “dirt” on Clinton through Wikileaks prior to the election.
3. Talking about “left wing socialist or communist banana republics” shows real historical illiteracy. They were called “banana republics” because they used undemocratic maneuvers to suppress the left thereby protecting the interests of companies like United Fruit (now Chiquita).

 

[EatTheRich]

Julie. It was a JOKE at a campaign stop. Anyone with an I.Q. over 12 knows that.
And no they didn't 'hack' anything the very next day.

Why do you so easily believe BS ?

Trump was given the opportunity to say it was a joke and doubled down on the request for foreign intervention on his campaign’s behalf.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4783813/trump-joking-russia-emails

 

[RickWA]

Julie. It was a JOKE at a campaign stop. Anyone with an I.Q. over 12 knows that.
And no they didn't 'hack' anything the very next day.

Why do you so easily believe BS ?

It’s not “belief”. These are LIES.

Trump has done PLENTY for which to be criticized, but bad people are not satisfied with just facts. That is why they bandy this trash.

It’s a parenting thing - and these folks were molested rather than having been read bedtime stories like normal people. Sad, but true. Leftism is spread through child abuse...as is porn, drug addiction, etc.

 

[sensible don]

Hillary Clinton financed her entire campaign with foreign money. I don't expect you are concerned about that.

Can you say that again, with a straight face - SO HILLARY DID NOT GET 1 DOLLAR FROM A US VOTER - got it damn someone just got made to look a fool

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