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middleview

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It's hysterical that you think that helps you.
Reagan signed an agreement to abide by the tribunal. Was Obama supposed to say "Nah, didn't mean it"? The Tribunal was about to find in Iran's favor. Obama made a deal that
was for less than the Tribunal was expected to award. Again...should Obama have said "can't make me"?

A number of private citizens had claims against Iran. They are also now being settled. Did you know that?

Add to that....we keep seeing right wingers here claiming Obama sent taxpayer money. The $400 million was their money and the balance was interest on that money from 1979 to now.
 
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Sickofleft

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Reagan signed an agreement to abide by the tribunal. Was Obama supposed to say "Nah, didn't mean it"? The Tribunal was about to find in Iran's favor. Obama made a deal that
was for less than the Tribunal was expected to award. Again...should Obama have said "can't make me"?

A number of private citizens had claims against Iran. They are also now being settled. Did you know that?

Add to that....we keep seeing right wingers here claiming Obama sent taxpayer money. The $400 million was their money and the balance was interest on that money from 1979 to now.
What a bunch of [Unwelcome language removed] bullshit. There was a reason it was FROZEN in the first place you morons.
 

middleview

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What a bunch of [Unwelcome language removed] bullshit. There was a reason it was FROZEN in the first place you morons.
I wish you'd pay attention. It would save me having to repeat the facts to you.

The money was frozen in 1979. Iran had paid the US $400 million for weapons that we then refused to deliver. We imposed an embargo on Iran.

What happened to the $12 billion Carter froze in 1979?
early 1981, when the great sunshine of Amon-Ra Reagan had fallen upon the land, and some hostages came home—after which $12 billion in Iranian assets that Jimmy Carter had frozen suddenly were thawed.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a48449/reagan-iran-money-hostages/


Reagan returned another $454 million in 1987.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-05-13-mn-4265-story.html

Fergetabaht the missiles Reagan sold 'em
 
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Sickofleft

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I wish you'd pay attention. It would save me having to repeat the facts to you.

The money was frozen in 1979. Iran had paid the US $400 million for weapons that we then refused to deliver. We imposed an embargo on Iran.

What happened to the $12 billion Carter froze in 1979?
early 1981, when the great sunshine of Amon-Ra Reagan had fallen upon the land, and some hostages came home—after which $12 billion in Iranian assets that Jimmy Carter had frozen suddenly were thawed.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a48449/reagan-iran-money-hostages/


Reagan returned another $454 million in 1987.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-05-13-mn-4265-story.html

Fergetabaht the missiles Reagan sold 'em
Lets give Organized Crime any money they legitimately earned.o_O

100 billion back to Iran after that utterly feckless and useless nuclear deal, armed all there proxies in the region to the teeth, continued research on ballistic missiles and more then likely continued working on nuclear weapons at military bases.

Your response? DUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH....it was there money duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Useful idiots, nothing else to say.
 

middleview

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Lets give Organized Crime any money they legitimately earned.o_O

100 billion back to Iran after that utterly feckless and useless nuclear deal, armed all there proxies in the region to the teeth, continued research on ballistic missiles and more then likely continued working on nuclear weapons at military bases.

Your response? DUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH....it was there money duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Useful idiots, nothing else to say.
1. We overthrew their government. As far as they are concerned...we are the organized crime family.
2. The paid us $400 million. Reagan agreed to participate in negotiations regarding the return of assets...ours and theirs. Reagan returned $12 billion to them, but that is ok. Reagan also sold them weapons...that is also OK (even if it was illegal).

Obama negotiated the return of the last $400 million and you think that is a crime. Why? You don't know, but because you hate Obama...any complaint in a storm.

That other countries chose to also settle claims is their business.

In the mean time we have given Israel about $3 billion in weapons per year, but you complain about Iran's proxies. Oh, only the US is allowed to arm our allies. Of course, they'd disagree. You whine about their ballistic missile tests. Those weren't part of the deal. The agreement basically set them back on their path to a nuclear weapon. You disagree because somehow you know more than the combined intelligence services of the other countries in the deal, including our own. "More than likely"? Jesus...wtf do you know about nuclear weapons? You need a stock pile of fissionable material. They gave most of theirs up. You need a heavy water reactor. They shut theirs down. You need thousands of centrifuges. They gave a ton of theirs up.

It was THEIR money and it was here and now it is THERE!
 
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Sickofleft

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1. We overthrew their government. As far as they are concerned...we are the organized crime family.
2. The paid us $400 million. Reagan agreed to participate in negotiations regarding the return of assets...ours and theirs. Reagan returned $12 billion to them, but that is ok. Reagan also sold them weapons...that is also OK (even if it was illegal).

Obama negotiated the return of the last $400 million and you think that is a crime. Why? You don't know, but because you hate Obama...any complaint in a storm.

That other countries chose to also settle claims is their business.

In the mean time we have given Israel about $3 billion in weapons per year, but you complain about Iran's proxies. Oh, only the US is allowed to arm our allies. Of course, they'd disagree. You whine about their ballistic missile tests. Those weren't part of the deal. The agreement basically set them back on their path to a nuclear weapon. You disagree because somehow you know more than the combined intelligence services of the other countries in the deal, including our own. "More than likely"? Jesus...wtf do you know about nuclear weapons? You need a stock pile of fissionable material. They gave most of theirs up. You need a heavy water reactor. They shut theirs down. You need thousands of centrifuges. They gave a ton of theirs up.

It was THEIR money and it was here and now it is THERE!
You can't even defend Obama on his own merits without bringing up Reagan or how much money we give Israel.

You are a joke.

Nobody gives a shit about 1953 least of all the people currently living in that Theocratic hell or the region that has to deal with them continually.

Let me know when the US Government gives Organized Crime back any and all money they are legitimately owed.
 

middleview

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You can't even defend Obama on his own merits without bringing up Reagan or how much money we give Israel.

You are a joke.

Nobody gives a shit about 1953 least of all the people currently living in that Theocratic hell or the region that has to deal with them continually.

Let me know when the US Government gives Organized Crime back any and all money they are legitimately owed.
You're sure that nobody in Iran cares about the US overthrowing their government? They grow up learning about the great satan. You are truly uninformed or simply dishonest.

Who do you think signs up to serve in their military or their police? Who are those thousands of people in Al Quds? What happens in a society like that is the rulers keep the news out. They keep ideas out. They use the USA as the enemy that everyone must guard against. The nuclear deal was an opportunity to end that. Trump has now given the Mullah's all the help they needed to reinstate the USA as the #2 enemy...right after Israel.

Trump is a fool. He could have worked on a new treaty to limit ballistic missiles or aggressive acts against other countries in the region...but he wasn't smart enough to do that, or he didn't care. He just wanted some red meat to throw to the likes of you.
 
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Sickofleft

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Democrats believe the Iranians are stupid. In 2009 when the Iranians were protesting an election that had been stolen from them the Democrats believed that if we condemned the violence the Iranian Regime would just turn the people against us. As if people who know an election was stolen from them, are going to believe the people who stole it when told by them that the reason they are so mad about it, is because of the USA.


You're sure that nobody in Iran cares about the US overthrowing their government? They grow up learning about the great satan. You are truly uninformed or simply dishonest.

Who do you think signs up to serve in their military or their police? Who are those thousands of people in Al Quds? What happens in a society like that is the rulers keep the news out. They keep ideas out. They use the USA as the enemy that everyone must guard against. The nuclear deal was an opportunity to end that. Trump has now given the Mullah's all the help they needed to reinstate the USA as the #2 enemy...right after Israel.

Trump is a fool. He could have worked on a new treaty to limit ballistic missiles or aggressive acts against other countries in the region...but he wasn't smart enough to do that, or he didn't care. He just wanted some red meat to throw to the likes of you.
Looking at the above post nothing has changed. Trump and Bolton are warmongers... ridiculous talking points right of Iranian Government's mouth and useful idiots who are still in love with a useless deal.

Yes, I don't think anyone in Iran cares about 1953 even when the US was in the nuke "deal" the people of Iran never saw a dime of the money the country got. The people of Iran have been protesting that very thing and I would be suprised if you heard any anti-Shah chants... :rolleyes:.
 

middleview

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Democrats believe the Iranians are stupid. In 2009 when the Iranians were protesting an election that had been stolen from them the Democrats believed that if we condemned the violence the Iranian Regime would just turn the people against us. As if people who know an election was stolen from them, are going to believe the people who stole it when told by them that the reason they are so mad about it, is because of the USA.




Looking at the above post nothing has changed. Trump and Bolton are warmongers... ridiculous talking points right of Iranian Government's mouth and useful idiots who are still in love with a useless deal.

Yes, I don't think anyone in Iran cares about 1953 even when the US was in the nuke "deal" the people of Iran never saw a dime of the money the country got. The people of Iran have been protesting that very thing and I would be suprised if you heard any anti-Shah chants... :rolleyes:.
Oh, is that what the "democrats" believed? The idea was that if the US government supported the demonstrators then the majority of the people would then support the Mullahs, just because the US was on the other side.

Trump is permanently out to lunch. Bolton is a warmonger.
 
You can't even defend Obama on his own merits without bringing up Reagan or how much money we give Israel.

You are a joke.

Nobody gives a shit about 1953 least of all the people currently living in that Theocratic hell or the region that has to deal with them continually.

Let me know when the US Government gives Organized Crime back any and all money they are legitimately owed.
The lefty Jew-haters always, always bring up our aid to Israel. It burns them so badly that we help the free, democratic Jewish state. The left like their Jews only one way...ashes.
 
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Sickofleft

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Oh, is that what the "democrats" believed? The idea was that if the US government supported the demonstrators then the majority of the people would then support the Mullahs, just because the US was on the other side.

Trump is permanently out to lunch. Bolton is a warmonger.
Perfect illustration of what I just said.

Democrats believe the Iranians are stupid. In 2009 when the Iranians were protesting an election that had been stolen from them the Democrats believed that if we condemned the violence the Iranian Regime would just turn the people against us. As if people who know an election was stolen from them, are going to believe the people who stole it when told by them that the reason they are so mad about it, is because of the USA.
 

middleview

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Perfect illustration of what I just said.
Who'd know what you just said...seems a pretty Trumpian statement

if we condemned the violence the Iranian Regime would just turn the people against us.
As if people who know an election was stolen from them, are going to believe the people who stole it when told by them that the reason they are so mad about it, is because of the USA.


Kind of a rambling gibberish....so you think the Regime is going to tell the protesters that the reason they are so mad about the election is because of the USA?

That isn't at all what I just posted.
 
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