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Trump wants to replace SNAP (food stamps) with boxes of nutritious food.

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by make speed limit 45, Feb 12, 2018.

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  1. make speed limit 45

    make speed limit 45 Council Member

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    Welfare queens should get nothing but rice, flour, and rolled oats.
     
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  2. Spamature

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    And what I am saying is that those large corporations will not stand by and let themselves be cut out of their share of Uncle Sam's largess.
     
  3. PhilFish

    PhilFish Moderator Staff Member

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    was to spam..
    but, point being,if receiving funds for nutrition, perhaps selections should be limites to nutritious items..
     
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    PhilFish Moderator Staff Member

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    thats great, so you wont answer my question, then..
     
  5. Spamature

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    Look the reality of the situation is that when those dollars actually end up in a bank account. SNAP is a corporate subsidy program, not a poor person subsidy program. Walmart made that clear a while back when they talked about how the program affects their bottom line.

    Sure you could cut out junk food. People will just make it the items on their own. Cookies, cakes, candy, pies, chips, etc, are all made from staple ingredients anyway.
     
  6. Spamature

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    What exactly is the question you want me to answer ?
     
  7. EatTheRich

    EatTheRich Senator

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    You want them all to get diabetes, scurvy, and tooth decay?
     
  8. make speed limit 45

    make speed limit 45 Council Member

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    Rice, flour, and rolled oats are all good foods. But they have to be prepared and **** are lazy. They'd rather eat candy and chips all day. There's your diabetes and bad teeth.
     
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  9. PhilFish

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    Bye spam.
     
  10. Arkady

    Arkady The Departed

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    As I understand it, the proposal is to replace half of the amount with boxes of food, while keeping electronic cards for the other half. That's likely to drive of the price for the taxpayer, to provide the same basic level of service -- you wind up having to keep the whole expense of infrastructure for the electronic system, while also creating a secondary expense for a parallel food-transportation service, to get those shipments to people. And, from what I read, they are also going to require that the food be sourced from US providers, which will also add to the expense for the American taxpayer, since we won't be buying whatever's cheapest on the market, but instead sometimes buying things at inflated costs in order to provide a back-door subsidy to a Republican constituency.

    From an economic conservative perspective, this should be a worse idea than the current system, since it involves the government micromanaging food provision for a significant chunk of the populace, with such central planning driving up costs. But for a social conservatives, the idea of "blacks and illegals" howling over it is going to be seen as sufficient justification even if it's a much bigger burden on the taxpayer.
     
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    I don't know.. but Amazon can manage to do it with billions of products a day and get most of it to you in two days with enough of a profit margin that you don't even pay for shipping.

    So why could our Gov't.. who is so efficient, good, and productive - not manage to get a few boxes of food out the door every week?
     
  12. make speed limit 45

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    Have distribution centers and insist the welfare queens take a bus and pick up their monthly box of food.
     
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    1.)Amazon isn't making profits off retailing. The profits from their cloud services subsidize the rest of the business
    2.)Amazon's food delivery is currently fledgling at best. Their food prices aren't all that good and their selection is limited.
    3.)Blue Apron is a closer analogy to what to Trump is proposing. Blue Apron is hemorrhaging money and customers.
    4.)The government will remain efficient by just handing the Poors a debit card with money to buy food instead of creating a new government office devoted to coming up with diet plans. Let the poor's figure the logisitics that out themselves.
     
  14. The Sage of Main Street

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    Fake Debate

    An objection is not a rejection. Dishonest partisans should be held accountable for that, but won't, because the opposing partisans want to use the same trick.
     
  15. The Sage of Main Street

    The Sage of Main Street Mayor

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    Hugs for Thugs

    No more munchies for moochers.
     
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  16. The Sage of Main Street

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    Potatoes, Not Potato Chips

    Then restrict what they can get from a store with food stamps.
     
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  17. Spamature

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    LOL !
    So you don't know either.

    Okay
     
  18. Days

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    So, replace the money flowing into local economies with communist economy?

    Have you thought that out?
     
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    Since no the gov't is not making a profit off of this - it can run at a loss. Its still better than putting profits in the walton's pockets.

    Amazons food delivery is mostly fresh items. Yes that is fledging. This was about shelf stable foods, which have been available for years on Amazon - packaged and shipped at low costs. Regardless this is not about Amazon per say, but about the efficiency with which goods can be transported from distribution centers and delivered at low cost. If they can do it- then our great and wonderful gov't can do it too.

    Blue Apron is not at all close to what the actual proposal was - despite tossing out the name in the presser. Blue Apron sends FRESH items, and full recipes including things like all the spices, etc. What they are talking about is shipping you a bunch of peanut butter, parmalat, rice and beans. Blue Apron sends you fresh food in heavy duty cold packs. Yes, that is expensive and yes it is hemoragging money.

    There is nothing efficient about handing people a debit card and letting them pad the pockets of companies like the Waltons all while spending more than they would have to - if they primarily bought food staples. Like dry milk, dry rice, dry beans and canned goods.

    Besides which this could actually help in situations of food deserts if the food is delivered to the door, because it could include nutritious items people need instead of spending 5 times what they would have to spend to by non nutritious things at the local convenience store.

    connie
     
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  20. Jen

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    Michelle Obama should love it...... that would be on par with her school lunch program
     
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