Trump White House Senior Staff Have Private RNC Email Accounts

[Addy]

Uh-oh, they better be careful after what befell Hillary.

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Senior Trump administration staffers including Kellyanne Conway, Jared Kushner, Sean Spicer and Steve Bannon have active accounts on a Republican National Committee email system, Newsweek has learned.

The system (rnchq.org) is the same one the George W. Bush administration was accused of using to evade transparency rules after claiming to have “lost” 22 million emails.

Related: The George W. Bush White House ‘Lost’ 22 Million Emails
Making use of separate political email accounts at the White House is not illegal. In fact, they serve a purpose by allowing staff to divide political conversations (say, arranging for the president to support a congressional re-election campaign) from actual White House work. Commingling politics and state business violates the Hatch Act, which restricts many executive branch employees from engaging in political activity on government time.


But after then-candidate Donald Trump and the Republicans repeatedly called for “locking up” Hillary Clinton for handling government work with a private server while secretary of state, the new White House staff risks repeating the same mistake that dogged the Democrat’s presidential campaign. They also face a security challenge: The RNC email system, according to U.S. intelligence, was hacked during the 2016 race. “They better be careful after making such a huge ruckus over the private email over at the State Department,” says former Bush administration lawyer Richard Painter.

Tom Blanton, director of the National Security Archive, a Washington-based government watchdog that requests and collects classified information, sued the Bush administration (along with CREW) over the RNC server and lost emails, and is still waiting to see what was in them. “If s enior aides to President Trump were using private RNC servers on the afternoon after the inauguration, they have about 16 days to copy them into the official White House systems. If not, not they are in violation of the law,” he says
http://www.newsweek.com/trump-emails-rnc-reince-priebus-white-house-server-548191

 

[marvin martian]

Why? Hillary didn't do anything wrong, did she?

 

[Addy]

Why? Hillary didn't do anything wrong, did she?

Her opponents thought so.... and now it seems they are using Bush's old server for their private emails.
The ongoing GOP political theme re: Hillary's email was to make her appear as if she had done something wrong.

 

[marvin martian]

Her opponents thought so.... and now it seems they are using Bush's old server for their private emails.
The ongoing GOP political theme re: Hillary's email was to make her appear as if she had done something wrong.

But you're reporting on this like it's a problem. Are you saying use of a private mail system is a problem? Come on, be honest!

 

[Addy]

But you're reporting on this like it's a problem. Are you saying use of a private mail system is a problem? Come on, be honest!

Read the entire link... it explains it quite well.

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Besides the unfortunate P.R. optics of Trump using a nonofficial email server in his White House after a campaign built on attacking a similar practice, there are other, more serious problems. First, obviously, is cybersecurity. Russian hackers didn’t harvest as much material from the RNC system as from the Democrats’, but the system was still hackable. Second is transparency. Trump and other Republicans throughout the 2016 campaign voiced concerns about the transparency of Clinton’s use of a “home-brew” personal email server in her basement. FBI Director James Comey called her email practices “extremely reckless,” and the investigation and lingering taint of suspicion arguably cost her the election.

They also face a security challenge: The RNC email system, according to U.S. intelligence, was hacked during the 2016 race.
http://www.newsweek.com/trump-emails-rnc-reince-priebus-white-house-server-548191

 

[marvin martian]

Read the entire link... it explains it quite well.

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Besides the unfortunate P.R. optics of Trump using a nonofficial email server in his White House after a campaign built on attacking a similar practice, there are other, more serious problems. First, obviously, is cybersecurity. Russian hackers didn’t harvest as much material from the RNC system as from the Democrats’, but the system was still hackable. Second is transparency. Trump and other Republicans throughout the 2016 campaign voiced concerns about the transparency of Clinton’s use of a “home-brew” personal email server in her basement. FBI Director James Comey called her email practices “extremely reckless,” and the investigation and lingering taint of suspicion arguably cost her the election.

They also face a security challenge: The RNC email system, according to U.S. intelligence, was hacked during the 2016 race.
http://www.newsweek.com/trump-emails-rnc-reince-priebus-white-house-server-548191

The link claims the use of a private email system by government employees doing government business is dangerous and irresponsible. Do you agree?

 

[Addy]

The link claims the use of a private email system by government employees doing government business is dangerous and irresponsible. Do you agree?

I didn't read that on the link. Cyber security is always a threat regardless.
This is part of the read on the link:

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It’s not clear whether or how Trump staffers are using the RNC email addresses. If they are using them, they are subject to the “Disclosure Requirement For Official Business Conducted Using Electronic Messaging Accounts," a law, 44 U.S.C. 2209, that went into effect in 2014. If White House staffers have already used the RNC emails system for White House work, they must copy or forward those communications into the government system within 20 days.

 

[marvin martian]

I didn't read that on the link. Cyber security is always a threat regardless.
This is part of the read on the link:

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It’s not clear whether or how Trump staffers are using the RNC email addresses. If they are using them, they are subject to the “Disclosure Requirement For Official Business Conducted Using Electronic Messaging Accounts," a law, 44 U.S.C. 2209, that went into effect in 2014. If White House staffers have already used the RNC emails system for White House work, they must copy or forward those communications into the government system within 20 days.

Sounds like a nonissue. Not sure why you posted it.

 

[Constitutional Sheepdog]

Democrats created this loophole now shut up and move along.

 

[Addy]

Sounds like a nonissue. Not sure why you posted it.

It's mainly to show the two faced nature of the GOP.

 

[marvin martian]

It's mainly to show the two faced nature of the GOP.

But you're actually now claiming what Hillary did was wrong, dangerous, and stupid.

 

[Jen]

But you're actually now claiming what Hillary did was wrong, dangerous, and stupid.

Hillary set a precedence for what is okay but it's suddenly wrong if a Republican does it. Right for Hillary. Wrong for anyone else.

It was the same thing as when Bubba groped, fondled, and propositioned women and that was, according to Democrats, nobody's business. But now that they've discovered Trump did stuff like that......................it's suddenly everyone's business.

I wonder how they can be offended by Trump when they weren't at all offended by Bubba?

 

[Jen]

It's mainly to show the two faced nature of the GOP.

Oh........I'm sure you meant two-faced nature of the Democrats. That's what you showed here with this post.

 

[Constitutional Sheepdog]

It's mainly to show the two faced nature of the GOP.

OK SO you're saying Hillary was wrong in what she did?

 

[SW48]

Uh-oh, they better be careful after what befell Hillary.

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Senior Trump administration staffers including Kellyanne Conway, Jared Kushner, Sean Spicer and Steve Bannon have active accounts on a Republican National Committee email system, Newsweek has learned.

The system (rnchq.org) is the same one the George W. Bush administration was accused of using to evade transparency rules after claiming to have “lost” 22 million emails.

Related: The George W. Bush White House ‘Lost’ 22 Million Emails
Making use of separate political email accounts at the White House is not illegal. In fact, they serve a purpose by allowing staff to divide political conversations (say, arranging for the president to support a congressional re-election campaign) from actual White House work. Commingling politics and state business violates the Hatch Act, which restricts many executive branch employees from engaging in political activity on government time.


But after then-candidate Donald Trump and the Republicans repeatedly called for “locking up” Hillary Clinton for handling government work with a private server while secretary of state, the new White House staff risks repeating the same mistake that dogged the Democrat’s presidential campaign. They also face a security challenge: The RNC email system, according to U.S. intelligence, was hacked during the 2016 race. “They better be careful after making such a huge ruckus over the private email over at the State Department,” says former Bush administration lawyer Richard Painter.

Tom Blanton, director of the National Security Archive, a Washington-based government watchdog that requests and collects classified information, sued the Bush administration (along with CREW) over the RNC server and lost emails, and is still waiting to see what was in them. “If s enior aides to President Trump were using private RNC servers on the afternoon after the inauguration, they have about 16 days to copy them into the official White House systems. If not, not they are in violation of the law,” he says
http://www.newsweek.com/trump-emails-rnc-reince-priebus-white-house-server-548191

We know now you can't get in trouble for this even if you use it for classified info.

Yes/NO

 

[SW48]

Her opponents thought so.... and now it seems they are using Bush's old server for their private emails.
The ongoing GOP political theme re: Hillary's email was to make her appear as if she had done something wrong.

She did do something wrong, did she not?

But now we know you can't be punished for it.

 

[Addy]

She did do something wrong, did she not?

But now we know you can't be punished for it.

Comey classified what she did as extremely reckless.
A new law was passed in (2014).

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44 USC 2911: Disclosure requirement for official business conducted using non-official electronic messaging accounts Text contains those laws in effect on January 25, 2017
From Title 44-PUBLIC PRINTING AND DOCUMENTSCHAPTER 29-RECORDS MANAGEMENT BY THE ARCHIVIST OF THE UNITED STATES
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§2911. Disclosure requirement for official business conducted using non-official electronic messaging accounts

(a) In General.-An officer or employee of an executive agency may not create or send a record using a non-official electronic messaging account unless such officer or employee-

(1) copies an official electronic messaging account of the officer or employee in the original creation or transmission of the record; or

(2) forwards a complete copy of the record to an official electronic messaging account of the officer or employee not later than 20 days after the original creation or transmission of the record.


(b) Adverse Actions.-The intentional violation of subsection (a) (including any rules, regulations, or other implementing guidelines), as determined by the appropriate supervisor, shall be a basis for disciplinary action in accordance with subchapter I, II, or V of chapter 75 of title 5, as the case may be.

(c) Definitions.-In this section:

(1) Electronic messages.-The term "electronic messages" means electronic mail and other electronic messaging systems that are used for purposes of communicating between individuals.

(2) Electronic messaging account.-The term "electronic messaging account" means any account that sends electronic messages.

(3) Executive agency.-The term "executive agency" has the meaning given that term in section 105 of title 5.

(Added Pub. L. 113–187, §10(a), Nov. 26, 2014, 128 Stat. 2014 .)
44 USC 2911: Disclosure requirement for official business conducted using non-official electronic messaging accounts Text contains those laws in effect on January 25, 2017
From Title 44-PUBLIC PRINTING AND DOCUMENTSCHAPTER 29-RECORDS MANAGEMENT BY THE ARCHIVIST OF THE UNITED STATES
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§2911. Disclosure requirement for official business conducted using non-official electronic messaging accounts


http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title44-section2911&num=0&edition=prelim

 

[Addy]

We know now you can't get in trouble for this even if you use it for classified info.

Yes/NO

It would depend on at what point the email in question was marked classified... and if the law was in effect(during that time frame) re: using those servers.

 

[Addy]

Hillary set a precedence for what is okay but it's suddenly wrong if a Republican does it. Right for Hillary. Wrong for anyone else.

It was the same thing as when Bubba groped, fondled, and propositioned women and that was, according to Democrats, nobody's business. But now that they've discovered Trump did stuff like that......................it's suddenly everyone's business.

I wonder how they can be offended by Trump when they weren't at all offended by Bubba?

No, Hillary didn't set a precedence, if you had read the link, you would have noted they are still trying to retrieve lost emails from the Bush's servers.

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Related: The George W. Bush White House ‘lost’ 22 million emails

It was the same thing as when Bubba groped, fondled, and propositioned women and that was, according to Democrats, nobody's business. But now that they've discovered Trump did stuff like that......................it's suddenly everyone's business.

I wonder how they can be offended by Trump when they weren't at all offended by Bubba?

It seems you went astray on the topic, Jen.

 

[Addy]

Oh........I'm sure you meant two-faced nature of the Democrats. That's what you showed here with this post.

No, it is really two faced of the repubs... after all the whining re: Hillary's servers especially during the election cycle. Then, here they are doing the same thing they had accused Hillary of.