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Trump's use of unsecured phones....against our national security

Discussion in 'Latest Political News and Current Events' started by JuliefromOhio, Dec 7, 2019.

  1. JuliefromOhio

    JuliefromOhio Senator Supporting Member

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    Get it?

    Trump makes it very, very easy for Putin and other countries to know what he's about. I'm inclined to think Trump is doing this on purpose, his oath to protect our national security be damned.
     
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  2. Colorforms

    Colorforms Senator

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    After defending at the sake of your credibility Hillary using private unsecured servers to pass classified information, you just come off as a complete hypocrite.
     
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  3. JuliefromOhio

    JuliefromOhio Senator Supporting Member

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  4. JuliefromOhio

    JuliefromOhio Senator Supporting Member

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    Trump wanted to LOCK HER UP for an investigation that determined she'd been sloppy, but not criminal with her server.

    Will you call for Trump now to be LOCKED UP since he should've remembered not to do such a thing? Remember, Trump's ignorance is no excuse.
     
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  5. now_what

    now_what Mayor Supporting Member

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    On the flip side, how many people lost their little minds over “emailgate”, and could care less about this? Hypocrisy comes in many forms.
     
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  6. llovejim

    llovejim Current Champion

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    except she did not, and you refuse to accept it because you are so brainwashed. she did what the secretaries of state before her did, used private accounts for her private and state dept regular email. no classified email was even supposed to be used on those state dept accounts for anybody at any time, Clint0n and Condi Rice and Colin Powell had specific restricted email systems for top secret and real classified emails. have someone read this to you-

    There are restrictions on how classified documents can be shipped. Top Secret material must go by special courier. Secret material can be sent within the U.S. via registered mail, and Confidential material by certified mail. Electronic transmission of classified information largely requires the use of National Security Agency approved/certified "Type 1" cryptosystems utilizing NSA's unpublished and classified Suite A algorithms. The classification of the Suite A algorithms categorizes the hardware that store them as a Controlled Cryptographic Item (CCI) under the International Traffic in Arms Regulations, or ITAR. CCI equipment and keying material must be controlled and stored with heightened physical security, even when the device is not processing classified information or contain a cryptographic key. NSA is currently moving towards implementing what it's calling Suite B which is a group of commercial algorithms such as Advanced Encryption Standard (AES), Secure Hash Algorithm (SHA), Elliptic Curve Digital Signature Algorithm (ECDSA) and Elliptic curve Diffie–Hellman (ECDH). Suite B provides protection for data up to Top Secret on non-CCI devices. This is especially useful in high risk environments or operations needed to prevent Suite A compromise. These less stringent hardware requirements stem from the device not having to "protect" classified Suite A algorithms.
    Specialized computer operating systems known as trusted operating systems are available for processing classified information. These enforce the classification and labeling rules described above in software. However, as of 2005, they are not considered secure enough to allow uncleared users to share computers with classified activities. So if one creates an unclassified document on a secret device, the resultant data is classified secret until it can be manually reviewed. Computer networks for sharing classified information are segregated by the highest sensitivity level they are allowed to transmit, for example, SIPRNet (Secret) and JWICS (Top Secret-SCI).

    "NSA Suite B Cryptography – NSA/CSS". Nsa.gov. Retrieved 2013-07-04.

    THE MOST PERTINENT FACT FROM THIS ARTICLE-

    How did Clinton receive and consume classified information?

    The Secretary's office was located in a secure area. Classified information was viewed in hard copy by Clinton while in the office. While on travel, the State Department had rigorous protocols for her and traveling staff to receive and transmit information of all types.

    A separate, closed email system was used by the State Department for the purpose of handling classified communications, which was designed to prevent such information from being transmitted anywhere other than within that system.

    https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/factsheets/2015/07/13/email-facts/
     
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  7. Caroljo

    Caroljo Senator

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    "hillaryclinton.com".....LMAO!! I'm sure this is all true.....Lol!
     
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  8. llovejim

    llovejim Current Champion

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    in the previous post I showed how all secretaries of states receive actual classified and top secret emails, which are not all that frequent, since they are diplomats, not military leaders or double naught spies....and on her personal server, she never received any of the emails marked classified either, for such mundane reasons as some diplomat's name was mentioned or some date, just extra careful classifications that had nothing to do with real classified information.- have someone read this to you-

    No marked classified email was ever on her private server. Even Comey admitted this in his hearing.

    This is from a politifact article-

    Comey was not really completely honest about what the facts were about Hillary and classified email on her server from the get go-

    "The State Department confirmed July 6 that it was aware of two emails that were marked confidential, the lowest level of classification, when they were sent. An aide sent the two emails to Clinton to prepare her for phone calls with foreign leaders, according to the New York Times.

    State Department spokesman John Kirby said call sheets are often classified when they are prepared. But then at some point before the call is made, someone with the appropriate authority will declassify them. These two call sheets sent to Clinton unnecessarily retained their confidential markings due to human error, Kirby said.
    Even though just two emails out of many thousands were marked classified at the time they were sent, it’s more than the number Clinton cited: zero."

    Here is what Factcheck clarified and proves she had zero
    ....According to Comey in his later testimony.

    But now we are learning more about those emails from Comey, who testified before the House Oversight Committee on July 7, and State Department spokesman John Kirby, who addressed these emails at press briefings on July 6 and 7:

    Comey said three emails had “portion markings” on them indicating that they were classified, but they were not properly marked and therefore could have been missed by Clinton. He said the emails were marked as classified with the letter “C” in the body of the email.

    At a State Department briefing on July 6, Kirby addressed a report in the New York Times that Comey was “evidently referring to two emails that one of Mrs. Clinton’s close aides, Monica R. Hanley, sent to prepare her for telephone calls with foreign leaders.” The Times report was based on interviews with anonymous State Department officials.
    Each was marked with a small notation by a paragraph inside the email, “(C),” indicating it contained information classified as “confidential.”

    Kirby said based on the email traffic, it appears that Clinton had already made the decision to call then Malawi President Joyce Banda and Annan, so the “confidential” markings should have been removed when Hanley sent the emails. (He made his remarks at about the 12-minute mark.)

    At his hearing, Comey was asked repeatedly about the marked emails, with Republicans accusing Clinton of lying, while Democrats defended her actions. As we have written, Clinton had repeatedly said she did not send or receive any emails marked classified. As recently as July 3, Clinton said that she “never received nor sent any material that was marked classified.”

    For example, Republican Rep. Trey Gowdy asked Comey if Clinton was telling the truth when she said that she did not send or receive marked classified material. Comey said she wasn’t.
    Gowdy, July 7: Secretary Clinton said there was nothing marked classified on her emails either sent or received. Was that true?

    Comey: That’s not true. There were a small number of portion markings on I think three of the documents.

    Likewise, Rep. Matt Cartwright, also a Democrat, asked Comey if the emails were properly classified, and Comey said they were not. (Executive Order 13526 spells out how documents should be properly classified, including a header on the document clearly identifying the email as classified as “confidential,” “secret” or “top secret.”)
    Cartwright asked if Clinton could have missed the improper markings. Comey said that that was possible.

    Cartwright, July 7: So, if Secretary Clinton really were an expert at what’s classified and what’s not classified and we’re following the manual, the absence of a header would tell her immediately that those three documents were not classified. Am I correct in that?

    Comey: That would be a reasonable inference.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2016/07/revisiting-clinton-and-classified-information/
     
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  9. llovejim

    llovejim Current Champion

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    google it. even george bush claimed he could "use the googles on the internets."

    I was able to do it in 4 seconds, but then again I am not a edited

    https://fam.state.gov/fam/05fam/05fam0480.html
     
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  10. Bugsy McGurk

    Bugsy McGurk President

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    Jeez, Trump directly gave senior Russian officials ultra sensitive intel in the Oval Office. We sure can’t expect him to care about using unsecured phones.
     
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  11. Dawg

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    and Sow gave them Uranium
     
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  12. llovejim

    llovejim Current Champion

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    he also had a call with the turkish dictator erdogan and agreed to let him slaughter our allies the Kurds in Syria. and take control of ISIS prisoners they had imprisoned and then threaten to release these ISIS agents into Europe if the EU carried out sanctions against Turkey for unrelated reasons...and trump loves him some Erdogan...Putin....Little Kim....and right wingers are still bringing up hillary's email!!!

    Turkey Threatens to Release ISIS Prisoners Into Europe In ...

    https://www.nationalreview.com › news › turkey-threatens-to-release-isis-p...

    Nov 12, 2019 - Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Tuesday implied that Turkey could release Islamic State prisoners into Europe as retaliation for ...
    Turkey's Erdogan warns that it can release ISIS prisoners back ...

    https://www.foxnews.com › world › turkeys-erdogan-warns-that-it-can-relea...

    Nov 12, 2019 - Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Tuesday issued a chilling threat to Europe over looming sanctions over Ankara's unauthorized drilling in the Mediterranean: penalize us and we'll release ISIS prisoners back to European countries. ... He made the comments while speaking to ...
     
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  13. Jen

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    Hillary set the precedence that it's okay to put top secret stuff on a personal phone. Everyone.........said it was no big deal when she did it so it's no big deal IF Trump did it.
    [​IMG](added to help those who are inept at discernment)

    Government issue secure phones are iPhones, btw.
     
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  14. Bugsy McGurk

    Bugsy McGurk President

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    Crikey. Give the “uranium” canard a rest. That’s yesterday’s hooey.
     
  15. now_what

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    Wow, you just blatantly admitted that all of the crying and outrage wasn’t for the safety of Americans. It was political. This is a very telling post, thank you for writing this.
     
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  16. Jen

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    Apparently that was okay too. There is a long and growing list of things Democrats can do .............but Republicans cannot ever do.
     
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  17. Jen

    Jen meh

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    I was being SARCASTIC, edited. I didn't expect you to recognize it though,.
     
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  18. now_what

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    Nice backpedal.

    So you do think trump should be in trouble for this then?
     
  19. Bugsy McGurk

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    No, because Hillary....blah, blah, blah.

    ;-)
     
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  20. now_what

    now_what Mayor Supporting Member

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    Exactly. These two posts have been about the best example of con hypocrisy I’ve seen on this site.
     
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