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Ukraine company BURISMA paid Joe Biden $900,000 !!!!

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
1. He did not offer to pay them to fire the corrupt prosecutor. He said you can't have taxpayer money while this guy protects the corruption in your government.
2. why did the EU and IMF make the same demand?

Why just the one guy then, if a majority is demonstrably corrupt?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
and why not even attempt to claim that text between our ambassadors in Ukraine show Trump was using military aid to force Ukraine to investigate the Bidens? why deflect?

Probably because there is no fcking evidence of any military aid being used to force Ukraine to do anything. Certainly there was ZERO talk of that in the phone transcript. Secondly, Ukraine had already began an investigation of the Bidens before the call.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trumps-ukraine-call-transcript-read-the-document

do you not agree it is a smoking gun and why trump should be impeached and removed from office? most voters think so, according to a Fox Poll from yesterday-

THIS is the only smoking gun, the ONLY evidence of wrongdoing.


This smoking gun is just going to get that lying squaw Warren nominated and she will lose in a landslide in 2020.

Polls are as useless as a Democrat's word of honor. (Yeah, I know. It's the total oxymoron.)
sure thing...."we'd like to buy more anti-tank missles" But Trump answers "we'd like you to do us a favor though"....investigate Biden.
 

sensible don

Governor
Supporting Member
and why not even attempt to claim that text between our ambassadors in Ukraine does not show Trump was using military aid to force Ukraine to investigate the Bidens? why deflect?

do you not agree it is a smoking gun and why trump should be impeached and removed from office? most voters think so, according to a Fox Poll from yesterday-

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This is a "fake news poll " wait - this is the beloved Fox News - can't be - someone hacked their database and altered the numbers - no way the 18% and shrinking base will lose to a hackjob lamestream media poll.
 

sensible don

Governor
Supporting Member
1. He did not offer to pay them to fire the corrupt prosecutor. He said you can't have taxpayer money while this guy protects the corruption in your government.
2. why did the EU and IMF make the same demand?
Please stop posting facts, they do not fit the narrative, thanks in advance!
 

llovejim

Current Champion
and why not even attempt to claim that text between our ambassadors in Ukraine show Trump was using military aid to force Ukraine to investigate the Bidens? why deflect?

Probably because there is no fcking evidence of any military aid being used to force Ukraine to do anything. Certainly there was ZERO talk of that in the phone transcript. Secondly, Ukraine had already began an investigation of the Bidens before the call.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trumps-ukraine-call-transcript-read-the-document

do you not agree it is a smoking gun and why trump should be impeached and removed from office? most voters think so, according to a Fox Poll from yesterday-

THIS is the only smoking gun, the ONLY evidence of wrongdoing.


This smoking gun is just going to get that lying squaw Warren nominated and she will lose in a landslide in 2020.

Polls are as useless as a Democrat's word of honor. (Yeah, I know. It's the total oxymoron.)
you are delusional. facts are slapping you across your huge gaping piehole and you keep spewing irrational lies. why are you so stuck on lies? how can you look at those texts and not see the obvious quid pro quo? how can you ignore the fact biden was using economic sanctions to get Ukraine to fire a totally corrupt prosecutor this country and the EU wanted to have fired before any more aid would come in, because he was letting that aid be plundered by his fatcat friends, most of them tied to Russia? what is wrong with you? here is how the Irish Times described how happy the EU was this corrupt ass prosecutor was fired by the Ukrainian parliament-

EU hails sacking of Ukraine’s prosecutor Viktor Shokin
Political crisis continues as deals on a new coalition and premier prove elusive
Tue, Mar 29, 2016, 18:41
Daniel McLaughlin in Kiev


Viktor Shokin, who has been fired as prosecutor general of Ukraine after an overwhelming vote in parliament. He was accused of blocking major cases against allies and influential figures and stymying moves to root out graft. Photograph: Roman Pilipey/EPA

European Union has welcomed the dismissal of Ukraine’s scandal-ridden prosecutor general and called for a crackdown on corruption, even as the country’s political crisis deepened over efforts to form a new ruling coalition and appoint a new prime minister.

Ukraine’s parliament voted overwhelmingly to fire Viktor Shokin, ridding the beleaguered prosecutor’s office of a figure who is accused of blocking major cases against allies and influential figures and stymying moves to root out graft.

“This decision creates an opportunity to make a fresh start in the prosecutor general’s office. I hope that the new prosecutor general will ensure that [his] office . . . becomes independent from political influence and pressure and enjoys public trust,” said Jan Tombinski, the EU’s envoy to Ukraine.

“There is still a lack of tangible results of investigations into serious cases . . . as well as investigations of high-level officials within the prosecutor general’s office,” he added.

Mr Tombinski said the EU was also concerned about the resignation or dismissal of several “reform-oriented” prosecutors and reports that Mr Shokin’s office was investigating a “highly-respected” anti-corruption group – an obvious reference to Kiev’s Anti-Corruption Action Centre, which had fiercely criticised Mr Shokin.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/eu-hails-sacking-of-ukraine-s-prosecutor-viktor-shokin-1.2591190
 

sensible don

Governor
Supporting Member
good place to start....the one guy who is looting the government and protecting the rest.
I think Trump is first president EVER to take over 100 million of tax dollars and pay himself through his resorts and golf outings but yet not a single fiscal conservative cares one bit, I guess that is NOT looting and protecting someone? I see where he is the greatest president ever if you base it on that, steal 100 million and they clap and cheer you.
 

sensible don

Governor
Supporting Member
you are delusional. facts are slapping you across your huge gaping piehole and you keep spewing irrational lies. why are you so stuck on lies? how can you look at those texts and not see the obvious quid pro quo? how can you ignore the fact biden was using economic sanctions to get Ukraine to fire a totally corrupt prosecutor this country and the EU wanted to have fired before any more aid would come in, because he was letting that aid be plundered by his fatcat friends, most of them tied to Russia? what is wrong with you? here is how the Irish Times described how happy the EU was this corrupt ass prosecutor was fired by the Ukrainian parliament-

EU hails sacking of Ukraine’s prosecutor Viktor Shokin
Political crisis continues as deals on a new coalition and premier prove elusive
Tue, Mar 29, 2016, 18:41
Daniel McLaughlin in Kiev


Viktor Shokin, who has been fired as prosecutor general of Ukraine after an overwhelming vote in parliament. He was accused of blocking major cases against allies and influential figures and stymying moves to root out graft. Photograph: Roman Pilipey/EPA

European Union has welcomed the dismissal of Ukraine’s scandal-ridden prosecutor general and called for a crackdown on corruption, even as the country’s political crisis deepened over efforts to form a new ruling coalition and appoint a new prime minister.

Ukraine’s parliament voted overwhelmingly to fire Viktor Shokin, ridding the beleaguered prosecutor’s office of a figure who is accused of blocking major cases against allies and influential figures and stymying moves to root out graft.

“This decision creates an opportunity to make a fresh start in the prosecutor general’s office. I hope that the new prosecutor general will ensure that [his] office . . . becomes independent from political influence and pressure and enjoys public trust,” said Jan Tombinski, the EU’s envoy to Ukraine.

“There is still a lack of tangible results of investigations into serious cases . . . as well as investigations of high-level officials within the prosecutor general’s office,” he added.

Mr Tombinski said the EU was also concerned about the resignation or dismissal of several “reform-oriented” prosecutors and reports that Mr Shokin’s office was investigating a “highly-respected” anti-corruption group – an obvious reference to Kiev’s Anti-Corruption Action Centre, which had fiercely criticised Mr Shokin.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/eu-hails-sacking-of-ukraine-s-prosecutor-viktor-shokin-1.2591190
There are people paid to post for Trump on here, like they think they are changing national opinions, lmao
 

sensible don

Governor
Supporting Member
sure thing...."we'd like to buy more anti-tank missles" But Trump answers "we'd like you to do us a favor though"....investigate Biden.
Didn't you hear, this is how we negotiate with foreign countries, just saying your aren't keeping up with the new narrative.
 

llovejim

Current Champion
That statement the WH released was doctored by Nancy and Obama, didn't you hear?
are you being serious? it is really hard to tell with some people- if they are just imitating a brain dead trump voter or if they really are a brain dead trump voter.
 

sensible don

Governor
Supporting Member
not when it is to get a foreign country to investigate the president's political rivals!! are you nuts?
Nah, just repeating what Hannity / Rush/ Pompeo all are saying now to calm the base down. I mean they are never wrong........right?
 

sensible don

Governor
Supporting Member
are you being serious? it is really hard to tell with some people- if they are just imitating a brain dead trump voter or if they really are a brain dead trump voter.
Well thanks, I think I am doing a good job keeping up with Breitbart and other right wing "truth outlets"
 

sensible don

Governor
Supporting Member
no she did not. you are lying again. just ask yourself what trump would do, then do the opposite!!
The anti-warren crusade only has like 2-3 things they can find against her so get ready to see them, over and over and over and over again again again again.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
good place to start....the one guy who is looting the government and protecting the rest.
that's precisely the point, it's not just a one guy thing, everybody was looting the government. Poroshenko had just taken over from Yanukovich... Poroshenko himself was questionable. The money is being held by great Britain were intended to be an initial attempt at recovering the billions of dollars stolen from the Ukrainian people..

It's a nonsensical move why remove a low-level grifter...
 
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