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Ukraine president: There was no Trump blackmail.

reason10

Mayor
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/10/10/ukraine-president-no-blackmail-in-conversation-with-trump/23833036/
Ukraine president: 'No blackmail' in conversation with Trump

KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy says there was "no blackmail" in the phone call with U.S. President Donald Trump that helped spark an impeachment inquiry.

Responding Thursday to questions from The Associated Press, Zelenskiy said he learned only after their July 25 phone call that the U.S. had blocked hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid to Ukraine.

"We didn't speak about this" during the July call, Zelenskiy said, saying the military aid wasn't the "theme" of the conversation. He spoke Thursday during an unusual, all-day "media marathon" in a Kyiv food court amid growing questions about his actions as president.

Trump asked Zelenskiy during the call to investigate Democratic rival Joe Biden, according to a rough White House transcript. Congressional Democrats believe Trump was holding up the aid to use as leverage to pressure Ukraine and advance his domestic political interests ahead of next year's U.S. presidential election.

Trump said the military aid was frozen because of concerns about corruption in Ukraine, but the move prompted congressional outcry and the money was released in September.

It's over, edited. You have nothing to impeach the President. He's going to be reelected in a bigger landslide, and there's nothing you can do about it.
 

llovejim

Current Champion
that is like when al capone used to ask small business owners "for a favor" and a cop might show up...and ask the business owner what's up, and he says, just me and Al having a nice chat. nothing to see here. get it?
 

Nutty Cortez

Dummy (D) NY
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/10/10/ukraine-president-no-blackmail-in-conversation-with-trump/23833036/
Ukraine president: 'No blackmail' in conversation with Trump

KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy says there was "no blackmail" in the phone call with U.S. President Donald Trump that helped spark an impeachment inquiry.

Responding Thursday to questions from The Associated Press, Zelenskiy said he learned only after their July 25 phone call that the U.S. had blocked hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid to Ukraine.

"We didn't speak about this" during the July call, Zelenskiy said, saying the military aid wasn't the "theme" of the conversation. He spoke Thursday during an unusual, all-day "media marathon" in a Kyiv food court amid growing questions about his actions as president.

Trump asked Zelenskiy during the call to investigate Democratic rival Joe Biden, according to a rough White House transcript. Congressional Democrats believe Trump was holding up the aid to use as leverage to pressure Ukraine and advance his domestic political interests ahead of next year's U.S. presidential election.

Trump said the military aid was frozen because of concerns about corruption in Ukraine, but the move prompted congressional outcry and the money was released in September.

It's over, edited. You have nothing to impeach the President. He's going to be reelected in a bigger landslide, and there's nothing you can do about it.


WE CAN'T HAVE FACTS !!!!!

We have the fairy tale written, and we leftists are TRYING to make it come true- again !
 

llovejim

Current Champion
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/10/10/ukraine-president-no-blackmail-in-conversation-with-trump/23833036/
Ukraine president: 'No blackmail' in conversation with Trump

KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy says there was "no blackmail" in the phone call with U.S. President Donald Trump that helped spark an impeachment inquiry.

Responding Thursday to questions from The Associated Press, Zelenskiy said he learned only after their July 25 phone call that the U.S. had blocked hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid to Ukraine.

"We didn't speak about this" during the July call, Zelenskiy said, saying the military aid wasn't the "theme" of the conversation. He spoke Thursday during an unusual, all-day "media marathon" in a Kyiv food court amid growing questions about his actions as president.

Trump asked Zelenskiy during the call to investigate Democratic rival Joe Biden, according to a rough White House transcript. Congressional Democrats believe Trump was holding up the aid to use as leverage to pressure Ukraine and advance his domestic political interests ahead of next year's U.S. presidential election.

Trump said the military aid was frozen because of concerns about corruption in Ukraine, but the move prompted congressional outcry and the money was released in September.

It's over, edited. You have nothing to impeach the President. He's going to be reelected in a bigger landslide, and there's nothing you can do about it.
no, these texts shown here prove there was a quid pro quo. try to read and understand what these texts are clearly saying-

The conversation between Trump and Sondland was first reported by The Wall Street Journal. The Trump administration's alleged efforts to pressure Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son while the U.S. withheld military aid to the country have given rise to an impeachment investigation in the House. Here is the text-

[7/19/19, 4:48 Kurt Volker: Mr Mayor really enjoyed breakfast this
morning. As discussed, connecting you here with Andrey Yermak, who is very
close to President Zelensky. I suggest we schedule a call together on Monday
maybe 10am or 11am Washington time? Kurt

Sondland Briefs Zelenskv Ahead of Call with President Trump: On July 19, 2019,
Ambassador Volker, Ambassador Sondland, and Mr. Taylor had the following exchange
about the Specific goal for the upcoming telephone call between President Trump and the Ukrainian President:

[7/19/19, 4:49:42 Kurt Volker: Can we three do a call tomorrow?say noon


[7/19/19, 6:50:29 Gordon Sondland: Looks like Potus call tomorrow. I spoke
directly to Zelensky and gave him a full briefing. He's got it.

[7/19/19, 6:52:57 Gordon Sondland: Sure!

[7/19/19, 7:01 :22 Kurt Volker: Good. Had breakfast with Rudy this
morning teeing up call Yermak Monday. Must have helped. Most impt is for
Zelensky to say that he will help investigation and address any specific
personnel issues if there are any


Concerns about Ukraine Becoming an Instrument in US. Politics: On July 21,
2019, Ambassador Taylor tagged President Zelensky's desire for Ukraine not to be used
by the Trump Administration for its own domestic political purposes:

[7/21/19, 1:45:54 Bill Taylor: Gordon, one thing Kurt and I talked about
yesterday was Sasha Danyliuk's point that President Zelensky is sensitive about Ukraine being taken seriously, not merely as an instrument in Washington domestic, reelection politics.


[7/21/19, 4:45:44 Gordon Sondland: Absolutely, but we need to get the
conversation started and the relationship built, irrespective of the pretext. I am
worried about the alternative.

this is after the trump phone call on July 25


19, 12:31 :06 Bill Taylor: The message to the Ukrainians (and Russians)
we send with the decision on security assistance is key. With the hold, we have already shaken their faith in us. Thus my nightmare scenario.


[9/9/19, 12:34:44 Bill Taylor: Counting on you to be right about this
interview, Gordon.

[9/9/19, 12:37:16 Gordon Sondland: Bill, I never said I was right. I said
we are where we are and believe we have identified the best pathway forward.
Lets hope it works.

[9/9/19, 12:47:11 Bill Taylor: As 1 said on the phone, I think it's crazy to
withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign.


5 hours later, after we know Sondland called Trump for guidance, he replied-

19, 5:19:35 Gordon Sondland: Bill, I believe you are incorrect about
President Trump's intentions. The President has been clear no quid pro
quos of any kind. The President is trying to evaluate whether Ukraine is truly
going to adopt the transparency and reforms that President Zelensky promised
during his campaign (but all Trump talked about is investigating the Bidens) I suggest we stop the back and forth by text If you still have
concerns I recommend you give Lisa Kenna or a call to discuss them directly.

there is even more damning direct paper trail evidence shown here on this link that was provided to the House Intelligence Committee...it clearly shows Trump, Giuliani, Pompeo, all state dept. workers in the region, using military assistance as a stick to get an investigation of the Bidens.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...ormer-u-s-envoy-ukraine-n1062351?icid=related
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
no, these texts shown here prove there was a quid pro quo. try to read and understand what these texts are clearly saying-

The conversation between Trump and Sondland was first reported by The Wall Street Journal. The Trump administration's alleged efforts to pressure Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son while the U.S. withheld military aid to the country have given rise to an impeachment investigation in the House. Here is the text-

[7/19/19, 4:48 Kurt Volker: Mr Mayor really enjoyed breakfast this
morning. As discussed, connecting you here with Andrey Yermak, who is very
close to President Zelensky. I suggest we schedule a call together on Monday
maybe 10am or 11am Washington time? Kurt

Sondland Briefs Zelenskv Ahead of Call with President Trump: On July 19, 2019,
Ambassador Volker, Ambassador Sondland, and Mr. Taylor had the following exchange
about the Specific goal for the upcoming telephone call between President Trump and the Ukrainian President:

[7/19/19, 4:49:42 Kurt Volker: Can we three do a call tomorrow?say noon


[7/19/19, 6:50:29 Gordon Sondland: Looks like Potus call tomorrow. I spoke
directly to Zelensky and gave him a full briefing. He's got it.

[7/19/19, 6:52:57 Gordon Sondland: Sure!

[7/19/19, 7:01 :22 Kurt Volker: Good. Had breakfast with Rudy this
morning teeing up call Yermak Monday. Must have helped. Most impt is for
Zelensky to say that he will help investigation and address any specific
personnel issues if there are any


Concerns about Ukraine Becoming an Instrument in US. Politics: On July 21,
2019, Ambassador Taylor tagged President Zelensky's desire for Ukraine not to be used
by the Trump Administration for its own domestic political purposes:

[7/21/19, 1:45:54 Bill Taylor: Gordon, one thing Kurt and I talked about
yesterday was Sasha Danyliuk's point that President Zelensky is sensitive about Ukraine being taken seriously, not merely as an instrument in Washington domestic, reelection politics.


[7/21/19, 4:45:44 Gordon Sondland: Absolutely, but we need to get the
conversation started and the relationship built, irrespective of the pretext. I am
worried about the alternative.

this is after the trump phone call on July 25


19, 12:31 :06 Bill Taylor: The message to the Ukrainians (and Russians)
we send with the decision on security assistance is key. With the hold, we have already shaken their faith in us. Thus my nightmare scenario.


[9/9/19, 12:34:44 Bill Taylor: Counting on you to be right about this
interview, Gordon.

[9/9/19, 12:37:16 Gordon Sondland: Bill, I never said I was right. I said
we are where we are and believe we have identified the best pathway forward.
Lets hope it works.

[9/9/19, 12:47:11 Bill Taylor: As 1 said on the phone, I think it's crazy to
withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign.


5 hours later, after we know Sondland called Trump for guidance, he replied-

19, 5:19:35 Gordon Sondland: Bill, I believe you are incorrect about
President Trump's intentions. The President has been clear no quid pro
quos of any kind. The President is trying to evaluate whether Ukraine is truly
going to adopt the transparency and reforms that President Zelensky promised
during his campaign (but all Trump talked about is investigating the Bidens) I suggest we stop the back and forth by text If you still have
concerns I recommend you give Lisa Kenna or a call to discuss them directly.

there is even more damning direct paper trail evidence shown here on this link that was provided to the House Intelligence Committee...it clearly shows Trump, Giuliani, Pompeo, all state dept. workers in the region, using military assistance as a stick to get an investigation of the Bidens.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...ormer-u-s-envoy-ukraine-n1062351?icid=related




19, 5:19:35 Gordon Sondland: Bill, I believe you are incorrect about
President Trump's intentions. The President has been clear no quid pro
quos of any kind.
 
19, 5:19:35 Gordon Sondland: Bill, I believe you are incorrect about
President Trump's intentions. The President has been clear no quid pro
quos of any kind.
Yea... That reads like guilty person putting out an official statement to cover their own ass.
Sondland and Taylor needs to testify to clear that up.
 

kaz

Small l libertarian
Hasn't his been posted like 3 times already in past few weeks?
Yes. The truth has been posted far, far less than the lie that Trump blackmailed Ukraine. Democrats lie through repetition trying to make it truth. It doesn't, it's just a repetition of a lie
 

llovejim

Current Champion
19, 5:19:35 Gordon Sondland: Bill, I believe you are incorrect about
President Trump's intentions. The President has been clear no quid pro
quos of any kind.
sondland is a fat cat republican donor rewarded by trump with an Ambassador to the EU gift. he is a toady. as the timing of the text shows, and as phone records show, there was a 5 hour gap between when Taylor said he did not believe US policy should be holding up military aid due to political reasons, and then this scripted reply from Sondland after he conferred with trump and his minions to see how he should respond, on an app both men knew would leave a paper trail that could be examined. it is called CYA.....Sondland denied what they had already discussed earlier in the link I provided. why cherry pick his response he made 5 hours after the comment, and after he called Trump to get an answer?
 

llovejim

Current Champion
Yes. The truth has been posted far, far less than the lie that Trump blackmailed Ukraine. Democrats lie through repetition trying to make it truth. It doesn't, it's just a repetition of a lie
name a lie. or go home. how simple.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
sondland is a fat cat republican donor rewarded by trump with an Ambassador to the EU gift. he is a toady. as the timing of the text shows, and as phone records show, there was a 5 hour gap between when Taylor said he did not believe US policy should be holding up military aid due to political reasons, and then this scripted reply from Sondland after he conferred with trump and his minions to see how he should respond, on an app both men knew would leave a paper trail that could be examined. it is called CYA.....Sondland denied what they had already discussed earlier in the link I provided. why cherry pick his response he made 5 hours after the comment, and after he called Trump to get an answer?
could be. we'll see
 

llovejim

Current Champion
why are people cherry picking the only part of the text that tries to cover up what the rest of the texts clearly show- trump using his office to force Ukraine to dig up dirt on a political rival? why the dedication to protect such a sleaze ball? did you not read just the part of the text I provided, or the whole link which shows even more corrupt bullshit? why be blind to the truth?

Sondland Briefs Zelenskv Ahead of Call with President Trump: On July 19, 2019,
Ambassador Volker, Ambassador Sondland, and Mr. Taylor had the following exchange
about the Specific goal for the upcoming telephone call between President Trump and the Ukrainian President:

[7/19/19, 4:49:42 Kurt Volker: Can we three do a call tomorrow?say noon


[7/19/19, 6:50:29 Gordon Sondland: Looks like Potus call tomorrow. I spoke
directly to Zelensky and gave him a full briefing. He's got it.

[7/19/19, 6:52:57 Gordon Sondland: Sure!

[7/19/19, 7:01 :22 Kurt Volker: Good. Had breakfast with Rudy this
morning teeing up call Yermak Monday. Must have helped. Most impt is for
Zelensky to say that he will help investigation and address any specific
personnel issues if there are any


Concerns about Ukraine Becoming an Instrument in US. Politics: On July 21,
2019, Ambassador Taylor tagged President Zelensky's desire for Ukraine not to be used
by the Trump Administration for its own domestic political purposes:

[7/21/19, 1:45:54 Bill Taylor: Gordon, one thing Kurt and I talked about
yesterday was Sasha Danyliuk's point that President Zelensky is sensitive about Ukraine being taken seriously, not merely as an instrument in Washington domestic, reelection politics.


[7/21/19, 4:45:44 Gordon Sondland: Absolutely, but we need to get the
conversation started and the relationship built, irrespective of the pretext. I am
worried about the alternative.

this is after the trump phone call on July 25


19, 12:31 :06 Bill Taylor: The message to the Ukrainians (and Russians) we send with the decision on security assistance is key. With the hold, we have already shaken their faith in us. Thus my nightmare scenario.

[9/9/19, 12:34:44 Bill Taylor: Counting on you to be right about this
interview, Gordon.

[9/9/19, 12:37:16 Gordon Sondland: Bill, I never said I was right. I said
we are where we are and believe we have identified the best pathway forward.
Lets hope it works.

[9/9/19, 12:47:11 Bill Taylor: As 1 said on the phone, I think it's crazy to
withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign.


5 hours later, after we know Sondland called Trump for guidance, he replied-

19, 5:19:35 Gordon Sondland: Bill, I believe you are incorrect about
President Trump's intentions. The President has been clear no quid pro
quos of any kind. The President is trying to evaluate whether Ukraine is truly
going to adopt the transparency and reforms that President Zelensky promised
during his campaign (but all Trump talked about is investigating the Bidens) I suggest we stop the back and forth by text If you still have
concerns I recommend you give Lisa Kenna or a call to discuss them directly.

there is even more damning direct paper trail evidence shown here on this link that was provided to the House Intelligence Committee...it clearly shows Trump, Giuliani, Pompeo, all state dept. workers in the region, using military assistance as a stick to get an investigation of the Bidens.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...ormer-u-s-envoy-ukraine-n1062351?icid=related
 

Nostra

Governor
Trump released the transcript showing no qpq.

Ukraine President confirms there is no qpq.

Democrats continue to deny reality.

F-ing hilarious.
 
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