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Ukraine president: There was no Trump blackmail.

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
not in that phone call, or at least what we know about that phone call from what trump released, and not from the entire real transcript which was locked away in a different location to obstruct justice....didn't you say they had re-opened the burisma case or that it had been re-opened? are you not counting that?

it was locked away to obstruct justice you say? says who? the crazed?

the administration says they locked it away to stem leaks.


tell me there are not leask in the WH? and how that is impossible to be a consideration?
 

reason10

Governor
it is all there. quit lying. it is weird how people can refuse to believe even text messages that prove trump was using the military aid as a stick to get Ukraine to investigate the Bidens for political gain. good god. do you just not have any morals left? no shame? i guarantee you, before long, trump and his defenders will be saying so what if he did try to get the bidens investigated? what's wrong with that? IN FACT, HE ALREADY IS!! here he is telling tv reporters in broad daylight that he wants Ukraine and China to investigate the Bidens!!


You might not like the facts, but once again you are wrong. There is zero evidence that Trump said anything criminal in this transcript.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trumps-ukraine-call-transcript-read-the-document

There is nothing in this transcript about trading a Biden investigation for military aid. it doesn't exist. The national socialists are making it up.

Those are the facts

And facts do not care about your feelings.
 
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reason10

Governor
that is like when al capone used to ask small business owners "for a favor" and a cop might show up...and ask the business owner what's up, and he says, just me and Al having a nice chat. nothing to see here. get it?
Only an idiot compares Trump (the greatest president in history) to Al Capone.
It's not a matter of a nice chat, nothing to see here.

These are the facts. These are the ONLY facts. And they do not care about your feelings.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trumps-ukraine-call-transcript-read-the-document
 
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reason10

Governor
no, these texts shown here prove there was a quid pro quo. try to read and understand what these texts are clearly saying-

The conversation between Trump and Sondland was first reported by The Wall Street Journal. The Trump administration's alleged efforts to pressure Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son while the U.S. withheld military aid to the country have given rise to an impeachment investigation in the House. Here is the text-

[7/19/19, 4:48 Kurt Volker: Mr Mayor really enjoyed breakfast this
morning. As discussed, connecting you here with Andrey Yermak, who is very
close to President Zelensky. I suggest we schedule a call together on Monday
maybe 10am or 11am Washington time? Kurt

Sondland Briefs Zelenskv Ahead of Call with President Trump: On July 19, 2019,
Ambassador Volker, Ambassador Sondland, and Mr. Taylor had the following exchange
about the Specific goal for the upcoming telephone call between President Trump and the Ukrainian President:

[7/19/19, 4:49:42 Kurt Volker: Can we three do a call tomorrow?say noon


[7/19/19, 6:50:29 Gordon Sondland: Looks like Potus call tomorrow. I spoke
directly to Zelensky and gave him a full briefing. He's got it.

[7/19/19, 6:52:57 Gordon Sondland: Sure!

[7/19/19, 7:01 :22 Kurt Volker: Good. Had breakfast with Rudy this
morning teeing up call Yermak Monday. Must have helped. Most impt is for
Zelensky to say that he will help investigation and address any specific
personnel issues if there are any


Concerns about Ukraine Becoming an Instrument in US. Politics: On July 21,
2019, Ambassador Taylor tagged President Zelensky's desire for Ukraine not to be used
by the Trump Administration for its own domestic political purposes:

[7/21/19, 1:45:54 Bill Taylor: Gordon, one thing Kurt and I talked about
yesterday was Sasha Danyliuk's point that President Zelensky is sensitive about Ukraine being taken seriously, not merely as an instrument in Washington domestic, reelection politics.


[7/21/19, 4:45:44 Gordon Sondland: Absolutely, but we need to get the
conversation started and the relationship built, irrespective of the pretext. I am
worried about the alternative.

this is after the trump phone call on July 25


19, 12:31 :06 Bill Taylor: The message to the Ukrainians (and Russians)
we send with the decision on security assistance is key. With the hold, we have already shaken their faith in us. Thus my nightmare scenario.


[9/9/19, 12:34:44 Bill Taylor: Counting on you to be right about this
interview, Gordon.

[9/9/19, 12:37:16 Gordon Sondland: Bill, I never said I was right. I said
we are where we are and believe we have identified the best pathway forward.
Lets hope it works.

[9/9/19, 12:47:11 Bill Taylor: As 1 said on the phone, I think it's crazy to
withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign.


5 hours later, after we know Sondland called Trump for guidance, he replied-

19, 5:19:35 Gordon Sondland: Bill, I believe you are incorrect about
President Trump's intentions. The President has been clear no quid pro
quos of any kind. The President is trying to evaluate whether Ukraine is truly
going to adopt the transparency and reforms that President Zelensky promised
during his campaign (but all Trump talked about is investigating the Bidens) I suggest we stop the back and forth by text If you still have
concerns I recommend you give Lisa Kenna or a call to discuss them directly.

there is even more damning direct paper trail evidence shown here on this link that was provided to the House Intelligence Committee...it clearly shows Trump, Giuliani, Pompeo, all state dept. workers in the region, using military assistance as a stick to get an investigation of the Bidens.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...ormer-u-s-envoy-ukraine-n1062351?icid=related
None of those lies reflect the truth.

This is the only document that is relevant and that matters.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trumps-ukraine-call-transcript-read-the-document

These are the facts. And facts don't give a flying edited about your feelings.
 
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Colorforms

Senator
that is like when al capone used to ask small business owners "for a favor" and a cop might show up...and ask the business owner what's up, and he says, just me and Al having a nice chat. nothing to see here. get it?
HAHAHAHA!!! Trump is a mafioso, just like Obama was :)
 

Colorforms

Senator
He's not much of a Mafioso, if you ask me. What kind of criminal tells the whole world in a tweet what he's going to do?
Or is transparent enough to release transcripts of his call :)

I'm sure that screwed with the fascist impeachment playbook
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/10/10/ukraine-president-no-blackmail-in-conversation-with-trump/23833036/
Ukraine president: 'No blackmail' in conversation with Trump

KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy says there was "no blackmail" in the phone call with U.S. President Donald Trump that helped spark an impeachment inquiry.

Responding Thursday to questions from The Associated Press, Zelenskiy said he learned only after their July 25 phone call that the U.S. had blocked hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid to Ukraine.

"We didn't speak about this" during the July call, Zelenskiy said, saying the military aid wasn't the "theme" of the conversation. He spoke Thursday during an unusual, all-day "media marathon" in a Kyiv food court amid growing questions about his actions as president.

Trump asked Zelenskiy during the call to investigate Democratic rival Joe Biden, according to a rough White House transcript. Congressional Democrats believe Trump was holding up the aid to use as leverage to pressure Ukraine and advance his domestic political interests ahead of next year's U.S. presidential election.

Trump said the military aid was frozen because of concerns about corruption in Ukraine, but the move prompted congressional outcry and the money was released in September.

It's over, edited. You have nothing to impeach the President. He's going to be reelected in a bigger landslide, and there's nothing you can do about it.
The victim of the blackmail says he wasn’t blackmailed?

;-)
 

reason10

Governor
The victim of the blackmail says he wasn’t blackmailed?

;-)
If he was not blackmailed, he is not a victim of blackmail.

Ukraine WAS the victim of blackmail, though. And HERE is a confession from the perp.


You cannot spin this. You cannot change this. Biden said what he said. He did what he did. And it was blackmail.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
If he was not blackmailed, he is not a victim of blackmail.

Ukraine WAS the victim of blackmail, though. And HERE is a confession from the perp.


You cannot spin this. You cannot change this. Biden said what he said. He did what he did. And it was blackmail.
You can read the blackmail in the transcript yourself. Blackmailed people do not admit they’ve been blackmailed. That’s the whole point of blackmail. Hello?
 

llovejim

Current Champion
https://www.npr.org/2019/10/04/7673...ht-by-trump-eyes-hunter-bidens-former-employe

Ukraine Conducts Probe Sought By Trump Regarding Hunter Biden's Former Employer
October 4, 20197:07 PM ET

At a news conference in Kyiv on Friday, October 4, Ukraine's newly appointed top prosecutor announced a sweeping review of past corruption investigations that had been either shut down or split up. Fifteen of those cases, according to an official press release, involve the founder of the Ukrainian gas firm Burisma.


Former Vice President Joe Biden's son Hunter was appointed to Burisma's board in 2014, while his father was leading policy on Ukraine during the Obama administration.

The audit of earlier corruption probes follows a promise Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy made to President Trump in a July 25 phone conversation: that a new prosecutor general would look into the closing of an investigation into Burisma's practices.

Ukraine might appear to be bowing to pressure from Trump, who lifted his previously unannounced two-month hold on nearly $400 million in security assistance for Ukraine on Sept. 11. ( The hold was placed on the military aid a few days before Trump's July 25th phone call to Zelensky. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...ut-freeze-aid-call-ukraine-president-n1057961)

As you can see, the Burisma case was not reopened until a week ago or so, the phone call Trump made to Zelensky was made a few days AFTER Trump froze the military aid, and 2 months before it was lifted, more or less. Some thread earlier lied about the timing of these events in a lying failed effort to defend Trump.

Wake up, trump voters. you are defending a corrupt incompetent fool.
 

Mick

The Right is always right
https://www.npr.org/2019/10/04/7673...ht-by-trump-eyes-hunter-bidens-former-employe

Ukraine Conducts Probe Sought By Trump Regarding Hunter Biden's Former Employer
October 4, 20197:07 PM ET

At a news conference in Kyiv on Friday, October 4, Ukraine's newly appointed top prosecutor announced a sweeping review of past corruption investigations that had been either shut down or split up. Fifteen of those cases, according to an official press release, involve the founder of the Ukrainian gas firm Burisma.


Former Vice President Joe Biden's son Hunter was appointed to Burisma's board in 2014, while his father was leading policy on Ukraine during the Obama administration.

The audit of earlier corruption probes follows a promise Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy made to President Trump in a July 25 phone conversation: that a new prosecutor general would look into the closing of an investigation into Burisma's practices.

Ukraine might appear to be bowing to pressure from Trump, who lifted his previously unannounced two-month hold on nearly $400 million in security assistance for Ukraine on Sept. 11. ( The hold was placed on the military aid a few days before Trump's July 25th phone call to Zelensky. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...ut-freeze-aid-call-ukraine-president-n1057961)

As you can see, the Burisma case was not reopened until a week ago or so, the phone call Trump made to Zelensky was made a few days AFTER Trump froze the military aid, and 2 months before it was lifted, more or less. Some thread earlier lied about the timing of these events in a lying failed effort to defend Trump.

Wake up, trump voters. you are defending a corrupt incompetent fool.

This was OLD news....but still cool nonetheless. Glad Ukraine is doing that because there has been so much corruption in that country. A lot of old cases need to be looked at. And stop your conspiracy surrounding the aid thing. Ukraine's President already shot the alt-left conspiracy down:

Responding Thursday to questions from The Associated Press, Zelenskiy said he learned only after their July 25 phone call that the U.S. had blocked hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid to Ukraine.

Got a good 10,000 word rant for me, jimmy? I'd love to see it!

:D
 

reason10

Governor
the kind who has never been held accountable
For the past three years he has been held nothing but accountable for nothing.

You need to get it through that edited brain of yours that beating Hillary in a landslide is not an impeachable offense. That is the only reason the Edited are going after this man.
 
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