degsme
Council Member
I can ask the same of you.Do you have a point?
The point is that union incompetence is no harder to fire than private sector incompetence.
I can ask the same of you.Do you have a point?
Wasn't Norma Rae about textile workers?.....How did that work out?So much truth there, MaryAnne.. re: Unions -- plus their efforts and demands in making the work place safe environment healthy and safe as possible for workers..decent wages, benefits, makes for happy workers and happy workers usually means better productivity...from my POV.
So.. miners, factory workers, plus skilled white collar workers, etc. benefit by having unions. I thought the movie Norma Rae was great in the way it portrayed why Unions are necessary.
Yes teachers, we need good ones and not ones that feel they have a job, no matter what.Do you have a point?
In some cases you are right. I was engaged at one time to a Union mediator and what a difficult job that was. He took his job seriously and I know the saying, 'you can't please all of the people all of the time' came to mind every day. He didn't have a law degree but spent half his life the law libraries.I can ask the same of you.
The point is that union incompetence is no harder to fire than private sector incompetence.
Wasn't Norma Rae about textile workers?.....How did that work out?
Then why did the execs at GM not get fired for 30 years of running their companies into the ground?I disagree. I can fire anyone that works for me at any time for their incompetence, and I don't need hearings and advocates to deal with it. You F-ED up you are out of here. Pretty simple in the private world in at will states.
I have dealt with unions at tradeshows as well. It's total bullshit.While setting up our booth at the OTC we had to go get a work order for a forklift operator. He showed up workorder in hand and started to off load our display he lowered it to ground level and just stopped doing anything. After a couple of minutes we asked what was the matter. His reply was the display had a steel frame and we had to go get an ironworker to supervise his forklift driving. All in all it was trying on the patience and nothing but a an exercise in inefficiency
How so? Trade shows are "fast and furious" followed by long periods of fallowness. Union requirements at tradeshows create an incentive for the venue bookers to keep the usually tax payer funded venue, as full as possible.I have dealt with unions at tradeshows as well. It's total bullshit.
I loved that movie, Addy. Having been close to the Union movement all my adult life I find it infuriating when someone blames everything on the Unions.So much truth there, MaryAnne.. re: Unions -- plus their efforts and demands in making the work place safe, environmentally healthy, as possible, for workers..decent wages, benefits, makes for happy workers and happy workers usually means better productivity...from my POV.
So.. miners, factory workers, plus skilled white collar workers, etc. benefit by having unions. I thought the movie, Norma Rae, was great in the way it portrayed why Unions are necessary.
Lilly - I wasn't asking you if you had a point. Sorry that wasn't clear. I did get your point FWIW and agree.Yes teachers, we need good ones and not ones that feel they have a job, no matter what.
I am so embarrassed, I edited when I read I typed 'there' instead of 'their' but when it was quoted it did not take the edit. My teacher daughter had better not see this. lol
The only thing not fast and furious at a tradeshow are the TeamstersHow so? Trade shows are "fast and furious" followed by long periods of fallowness. Union requirements at tradeshows create an incentive for the venue bookers to keep the usually tax payer funded venue, as full as possible.
You keep forgetting the offsetting factors and only see the hassle factors
And why should they be? How is your failure to plan a crisis on their part?The only thing not fast and furious at a tradeshow are the Teamsters