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Use of the Ratings Feature

Arkady

President
I prefer a fairly laissez-faire approach to managing forums like this. I don't care if people insult me, or use vulgar words, or "thread-jack" and so on. The only rules I like to see are those needed to keep the forum usable. For example, I don't like over-use of top-posting, because it scrolls away other posts before discussion can get going. I also don't want to see the forum spammed (e.g., those "you can earn $60k/year from home" type posts). And I don't want it used for illegal content (e.g., kiddie porn).

However, one additional kind of behavior I'd count in the column of making the forum less usable is abusing the ratings system. When posters go through and rate dozens of posts negatively without actually reading them, it makes it harder to keep track of genuine ratings by people who have considered the post before responding, and hard to find replies within the alerts. It serves no purpose other than to annoy, so I'd propose people resist the urge.

As an example, between 11:05 AM and 11:22 AM today, *edited* rated 45 of my posts "Disagree." That's in addition to rating four more of them that way between 10:44 and 10:46. At about 23 seconds per rating, clearly, this is not a matter of reading those posts to decide what reaction to have. Although some of the posts were a sentence or two and could have been loaded, read, and rated in that time, some were longer pieces, including two entries of over 900 and 1000 words, along with several detailed follow ups of a few hundred words each. At 23 seconds each, we're talking about blind rating based on the identity of the poster, rather than anything having to do with the individual post being rated.

I suppose at some level I should be flattered that *edited* would subject herself to twenty minutes of tedium clicking on my posts one at a time, merely to register a meaningless "disagree." But her obsession with me doesn't change the fact her abuse of the rating system hurts the usability of the forum.
 
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bdtex

Administrator
Staff member
I prefer a fairly laissez-faire approach to managing forums like this. I don't care if people insult me, or use vulgar words, or "thread-jack" and so on. The only rules I like to see are those needed to keep the forum usable. For example, I don't like over-use of top-posting, because it scrolls away other posts before discussion can get going. I also don't want to see the forum spammed (e.g., those "you can earn $60k/year from home" type posts). And I don't want it used for illegal content (e.g., kiddie porn).

However, one additional kind of behavior I'd count in the column of making the forum less usable is abusing the ratings system. When posters go through and rate dozens of posts negatively without actually reading them, it makes it harder to keep track of genuine ratings by people who have considered the post before responding, and hard to find replies within the alerts. It serves no purpose other than to annoy, so I'd propose people resist the urge.

As an example, between 11:05 AM and 11:22 AM today, Drumcollie rated 45 of my posts "Disagree." That's in addition to rating four more of them that way between 10:44 and 10:46. At about 23 seconds per rating, clearly, this is not a matter of reading those posts to decide what reaction to have. Although some of the posts were a sentence or two and could have been loaded, read, and rated in that time, some were longer pieces, including two entries of over 900 and 1000 words, along with several detailed follow ups of a few hundred words each. At 23 seconds each, we're talking about blind rating based on the identity of the poster, rather than anything having to do with the individual post being rated.

I suppose at some level I should be flattered that Drumcollie would subject herself to twenty minutes of tedium clicking on my posts one at a time, merely to register a meaningless "disagree." But her obsession with me doesn't change the fact her abuse of the rating system hurts the usability of the forum.
When the ratings system was created I knew it would be abused and who the abusers would be. I disabled alerts for ratings in my personal settings immediately and have ignored the ratings since then. Also,I don't use the "Ignore" option. I use reply alerts as a filter. I ignore replies from certain posters. I don't read or respond to them.
 

Arkady

President
When the ratings system was created I knew it would be abused and who the abusers would be. I disabled alerts for ratings in my personal settings immediately and have ignored the ratings since then. Also,I don't use the "Ignore" option. I use reply alerts as a filter. I ignore replies from certain posters. I don't read or respond to them.
I suppose I should just disable those alerts. But there are a few posters I respect whose ratings I'd like to know, even in cases where they didn't bother to respond with an actual reply. And I find it frustrating to think that a potentially useful feature like that could essentially be destroyed by way of the childish behavior of a few posters.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
When the ratings system was created I knew it would be abused and who the abusers would be. I disabled alerts for ratings in my personal settings immediately and have ignored the ratings since then. Also,I don't use the "Ignore" option. I use reply alerts as a filter. I ignore replies from certain posters. I don't read or respond to them.
Why isn't that a top post call out? RULE VIOLATION
Why is only libs that whine of ratings, hell, they whined and got some ratings removed.
I'll say it one more time, I rate so I know where I replied and didn't if I come back to an old thread...........
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
I suppose I should just disable those alerts. But there are a few posters I respect whose ratings I'd like to know, even in cases where they didn't bother to respond with an actual reply. And I find it frustrating to think that a potentially useful feature like that could essentially be destroyed by way of the childish behavior of a few posters.
Childish is whining about ratings with a top post call out, btw, which is (or was) a rule violation
Presently you have almost half the board with you nic showing on front page......whine on!
 

Arkady

President
Presently you have almost half the board with you nic showing on front page......whine on!
Note, I haven't complained about people replying to posts. I have a specific issue with things that hurt the usability of the forum, and that doesn't.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Note, I haven't complained about people replying to posts. I have a specific issue with things that hurt the usability of the forum, and that doesn't.
LIE........maybe you need go back up and read your post #1..............of course it's been edited and call out name removed.........this fray did well before you arrived with your longa ass diatribes and doesn't need your whining to have it continue doing well.

Hellfire, your long drawn out diatribes eat up more bandwidth than all members put together........and why you think anyone wants to read them can only be contributed to your self love of yourself.........IMO you're a boring ass blow hard.

Who gives a damn about your issues other than you?

YOU make it unusable............
 
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Arkady

President
Lmaybe you need go back up and read your post #1
Done. Now you go back and do so. Spot your error yet?

Hellfire, your long drawn out diatribes eat up more bandwidth than all members put together
Bandwidth isn't an issue here, so if you find that what I post is too long for your child-like attention span, or too challenging for your exceedingly low IQ, then simply ignore what I post. It's easy. But if I were to go through and "disagree" with fifty of your posts in a row without even reading them, that would interfere with the usability of the forum for you, since I'd make it a lot harder to spot genuine ratings, and to spot alerts for actual replies.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Done. Now you go back and do so. Spot your error yet?



Bandwidth isn't an issue here, so if you find that what I post is too long for your child-like attention span, or too challenging for your exceedingly low IQ, then simply ignore what I post. It's easy. But if I were to go through and "disagree" with fifty of your posts in a row without even reading them, that would interfere with the usability of the forum for you, since I'd make it a lot harder to spot genuine ratings, and to spot alerts for actual replies.
86 YOU and you childish insults............
IQ not going to help you when attacked on the street by BLM :)
 

Arkady

President
86 YOU and you childish insults............
IQ not going to help you when attacked on the street by BLM :)
You now what would really show me your IQ wasn't low? if you went with an even bigger font, more use of all-caps, a few extra dots at the end of your thought fragments, and a few extra bits of a-propos-of-nothing racist paranoia.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
You now what would really show me your IQ wasn't low? if you went with an even bigger font, more use of all-caps, a few extra dots at the end of your thought fragments, and a few extra bits of a-propos-of-nothing racist paranoia.
"You now what would really show me your IQ wasn't low"..............LMAO
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Why be such a big pusillanimous?
 

Jen

Senator
When the ratings system was created I knew it would be abused and who the abusers would be. I disabled alerts for ratings in my personal settings immediately and have ignored the ratings since then. Also,I don't use the "Ignore" option. I use reply alerts as a filter. I ignore replies from certain posters. I don't read or respond to them.
I do the same as you've stated here, @bdtex, @Arkady. Any system of rating will be abused at some point and we are all probably guilty of that.

While I would like a few more features added to our alert and privacy abilities, what we have here does the job. I don't see my ratings. And I don't use the ignore setting, and I use the reply alerts to tell me which posts I want to look at first, or not look at at all.

I do look at ratings on individual posts to see who said what..... sometimes. Not always.

I am quite happy with that set up.
 
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Jen

Senator
I suppose I should just disable those alerts. But there are a few posters I respect whose ratings I'd like to know, even in cases where they didn't bother to respond with an actual reply. And I find it frustrating to think that a potentially useful feature like that could essentially be destroyed by way of the childish behavior of a few posters.
You can click "list" on any individual post to see who rated it and how they rated it.
 

Arkady

President
I do the same as you've stated here, @bdtex, @Arkady. Any system of rating will be abused at some point and we are all probably guilty of that.

While I would like a few more features added to our alert and privacy abilities, what we have here does the job. I don't see my ratings. And I don't use the ignore setting, and I use the reply alerts to tell me which posts I want to look at first, or not look at at all.

I do look at ratings on individual posts to see who said what..... sometimes. Not always.

I am quite happy with that set up.
Fortunately, almost nobody abuses the system, that I've seen. Dawg does and so does Drumcollie, but as far as I can tell, the other conservatives who "dislike" my posts genuinely dislike their contents after reading and considering them, rather than just clicking that rating reflexively. I have no issue with someone genuinely registering dislike of something I said.
 

Arkady

President
You can click "list" on any individual post to see who rated it and how they rated it.
Understood. But I like to be able to see how someone is rating things by way of the alerts, since I won't necessarily scan through everything I've posted to see if it's been rated.
 

bdtex

Administrator
Staff member
I prefer a fairly laissez-faire approach to managing forums like this. I don't care if people insult me, or use vulgar words, or "thread-jack" and so on. The only rules I like to see are those needed to keep the forum usable. For example, I don't like over-use of top-posting, because it scrolls away other posts before discussion can get going. I also don't want to see the forum spammed (e.g., those "you can earn $60k/year from home" type posts). And I don't want it used for illegal content (e.g., kiddie porn).

However, one additional kind of behavior I'd count in the column of making the forum less usable is abusing the ratings system. When posters go through and rate dozens of posts negatively without actually reading them, it makes it harder to keep track of genuine ratings by people who have considered the post before responding, and hard to find replies within the alerts. It serves no purpose other than to annoy, so I'd propose people resist the urge.

As an example, between 11:05 AM and 11:22 AM today, *edited* rated 45 of my posts "Disagree." That's in addition to rating four more of them that way between 10:44 and 10:46. At about 23 seconds per rating, clearly, this is not a matter of reading those posts to decide what reaction to have. Although some of the posts were a sentence or two and could have been loaded, read, and rated in that time, some were longer pieces, including two entries of over 900 and 1000 words, along with several detailed follow ups of a few hundred words each. At 23 seconds each, we're talking about blind rating based on the identity of the poster, rather than anything having to do with the individual post being rated.

I suppose at some level I should be flattered that *edited* would subject herself to twenty minutes of tedium clicking on my posts one at a time, merely to register a meaningless "disagree." But her obsession with me doesn't change the fact her abuse of the rating system hurts the usability of the forum.
Clowns will be clowns.
 
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