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Valerie Jarrett 'splains Obamanomics

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
Poor julie-booq. Getting carried away with her overly active imagination.

Hysterical I'm not.

Too funny for words :)
you said you were so afraid you were [Unwelcome language removed] in your pants. that sounds hysterical.

just tell us what has you so afraid. I'd like to help.
 

Sodak

Council Member
Bwah-hah-hah-hah-hah!

You should try out at the Comedy Club. You're one of the few people on this board who can really get me laughing!
 

degsme

Council Member
Perhaps where you've erred is in thinking my response reflects agreement with every adjective a poster uses to describe anything at all.

My response did not deal with socialism and to assume acceptance by me of everything GW writes is a bit of a leap.

Now - your demographics explanation is simply your particular analysis of how you perceive the situation based on a set of facts. It is an analysis, an opinion, nothing more, nothing less. Opinions are not FACTS.

Today's poll results are a FACT but they do not portend any particular result down the road since tomorrow's poll may be the opposite of today. And I know you know that. Your last paragraph lays it out :)
Actually today's polling does portend outcomes - since it sets the starting point that various parties have to move from.

As for demographics - yes the analysis is mine. But it also is the analysis of others. Rather than "appeal to higher authority" I present it so that you can have a go at refuting it. It is based in observable FACTS.. It is logicall structured.


And your claims about the GOP taking over the Senate are based in what set of FACTS and what structured and valid logic?
 

degsme

Council Member
Maybe the problem is that they are going out and "spending it" instead of... oh I don't know - paying for Cobra coverage and rent.mortgage and their utility bills.
Hmm and paying rent and COBRA and utilities isn't spending??? In what economics textbook did you dig up that gem?
 

degsme

Council Member
Exactaly. There wasn't so quit your childish game.
How was there not? Classic historic racist accusation leveled against black men..not backed up by any supportable facts.

Saying there isn't racism there is like saying that Strom Thrumound didn't run on a Segregationist ticket or that David Duke isn't a republican.
 

Sodak

Council Member
In my old age I do research 24/7. And over the past 15 years I've come to one conclusion, one opinion, one analysis, one theory. You can collect FACTS up the wahoo but your analysis [and yes, one must exhibit a higher degree of logic] is only as "FACTUAL" as the last "FACT" found.

There have been a number of occasions where I had to minorly or majorly alter the landscape based on a newly discovered but highly relevant FACT.

Now if you will go back to my post, you will see..............

I don't think there's any way the Pubs can fail to take the Senate majority this year.


"I don't think" is an expressed opinion. It is not a statement of FACT, eliminating any need for me to supply FACTS to justify my opinion.
 

degsme

Council Member
In my old age I do research 24/7. And over the past 15 years I've come to one conclusion, one opinion, one analysis, one theory. You can collect FACTS up the wahoo but your analysis [and yes, one must exhibit a higher degree of logic] is only as "FACTUAL" as the last "FACT" found.

There have been a number of occasions where I had to minorly or majorly alter the landscape based on a newly discovered but highly relevant FACT.

Now if you will go back to my post, you will see..............

I don't think there's any way the Pubs can fail to take the Senate majority this year.


"I don't think" is an expressed opinion. It is not a statement of FACT, eliminating any need for me to supply FACTS to justify my opinion.
Not all opinions are equally well founded. That you express an opinion and offer zero foundation - either in independelty verifiable fact or logic - tells us a fair amount about how well founded it is.


And yes, it is possible to cherry pick facts. That's why presenting the foundation of the opinion is the critical part. It becomes obvious that you are doing this. And ususually when folks hide their foundations, it is because they really don't have an intellectually honest or unbiased approach.
 

degsme

Council Member
Are you calling me a liar, degs?
For someone to be a liar they have to intend to deceive.

If they are unaware of their own racism but claim to not be racist does not make them a liar. But it also does not keep them from being a racist.
 

Lukey

Senator
American Thinker as evidence of the "obama agenda"????

Please... You might as well cite David Duke.
Yes, because, as we all know, there's so many more people working and so fewer people on welfare since Obama was elected. Oh, wait, it's the other way around! So he's either incompetent or a shrewd advocate of the Cloward-Piven strategy. Me? I don't think he's incompetent.
 

degsme

Council Member
Yes, because, as we all know, there's so many more people working and so fewer people on welfare since Obama was elected. Oh, wait, it's the other way around! So he's either incompetent or a shrewd advocate of the Cloward-Piven strategy. Me? I don't think he's incompetent.
Well since the economy was collasing at 820,000 jobs/mo and 4 years of GDP growth/yr when Obama inherited the economy, explain how magically this would be turned around? Particularly when the GOP Senate filibustered all but one of Obama's stimulus bills?
 

Sodak

Council Member
One more time, degs.

Are you calling me a liar? Are you saying that I lied about where I lived and with whom for my neighbors?

Or are you attempting to claim that I would willingly and deliberately move into an all black neighborhood and spend several years there while at the same time being a racist?

I suggest you are pushing this conversation over the edge in yet another of your constant attempts to label anyone and everyone who disagrees with Obama as being a racist.
 

degsme

Council Member
One more time, degs.

Are you calling me a liar? Are you saying that I lied about where I lived and with whom for my neighbors?
Nope. I have no doubt you lived where you did

Or are you attempting to claim that I would willingly and deliberately move into an all black neighborhood and spend several years there while at the same time being a racist?
People have lots of reasons for moving. Doesn't preclude racism.

I suggest you are pushing this conversation over the edge in yet another of your constant attempts to label anyone and everyone who disagrees with Obama as being a racist.
You can disagree with Obama on a lot of issues. When you invoke the kind of criticism historically racists have used and don't back it up factually, there is little to conclude but the obvious.
 
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