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Well this is pretty shitty...

freyasman

Senator
http://freebeacon.com/culture/pro-gun-women-regularly-face-violent-sexual-harassment/
From the link;
"Corban first became involved in activism after surviving a rape as a college sophomore in 2006. As her rapist's case was still making its way through the court system, Corban began speaking out about her experience. She said her desire to help other survivors is what drove her.

"I started speaking out on campuses before we even had sentencing," she said. "My attacker was found guilty at trial and I released my name to the media immediately following that because I just wanted to help one person not have to go
through the same experience I did. That's what my mission in life has been ever since then. So, when I would go and speak on campuses or to groups, I was well received. I didn't get the negative commentary or backlash. It was telling my story."

Once she began sharing her view that women should be able to own and carry firearms for their own self-defense she was met with a different reaction.

"I've been speaking out about sexual assault and rape and victim trauma for 11 years now, and it really wasn't until I ‘came out' as being conservative or pro-gun that I started receiving any backlash," Corban said. "It's horrifying. It reinforces why I carry. Nothing about my message or my experience changed. All that changed was how other people were interpreting that."

That's also when the threats and harassment began.

In January 2016, Corban was invited to ask a question of then-president Barack Obama during a CNN townhall event. She asked him why he wanted to make it harder for her to carry a gun for her self-protection and the protection of her children. The backlash shocked her.

"After the townhall on CNN aired, I mean, I wasn't prepared for the outreach to me as a person so I didn't have my social media locked down nearly like I do now," she said. "I had people writing heinous things on a picture of my daughter with her first birthday cake. They're writing terrible things about how they hope she gets my gun and shoots me. I had people direct message me saying my rapist didn't finish the job, he should've just killed me.

"I had one guy actually look up where I work, find the address, and send me a postcard with disgusting words that didn't quite reach the legal definition for probable cause but I turned that over to the authorities."

"You truly are a soulless, self-righteous, self-serving bitch with sick gun fetish. Do us all a favor & blow your own brains out," Twitter user Lou Aguilar said to Dana Loesch on Oct. 3."
 
its her right to carry a gun, and apply for a concealed carry permit.

no one should be "shocked" that taking a pro second amendment position in a political debate results in harassment from political opponents. it was her intent to create a media firestorm all along.

I'm not casting aspersions on her desire to be armed (and hopefully properly trained in how to use a gun). rather its her claim that she never expected controversy. she most certainly did.
 
C

Capitalist

Guest
its her right to carry a gun, and apply for a concealed carry permit.

no one should be "shocked" that taking a pro second amendment position in a political debate results in harassment from political opponents. it was her intent to create a media firestorm all along.

I'm not casting aspersions on her desire to be armed (and hopefully properly trained in how to use a gun). rather its her claim that she never expected controversy. she most certainly did.
I don't think she was looking for trouble. Trouble found her. By speaking out and being an activist/educator she's just giving as good as she gets.

Maybe she is surprised. Gun banners can be notoriously dim witted and vocal.
 

NinaS

Senator
Supporting Member
http://freebeacon.com/culture/pro-gun-women-regularly-face-violent-sexual-harassment/
From the link;
"Corban first became involved in activism after surviving a rape as a college sophomore in 2006. As her rapist's case was still making its way through the court system, Corban began speaking out about her experience. She said her desire to help other survivors is what drove her.

"I started speaking out on campuses before we even had sentencing," she said. "My attacker was found guilty at trial and I released my name to the media immediately following that because I just wanted to help one person not have to go
through the same experience I did. That's what my mission in life has been ever since then. So, when I would go and speak on campuses or to groups, I was well received. I didn't get the negative commentary or backlash. It was telling my story."

Once she began sharing her view that women should be able to own and carry firearms for their own self-defense she was met with a different reaction.

"I've been speaking out about sexual assault and rape and victim trauma for 11 years now, and it really wasn't until I ‘came out' as being conservative or pro-gun that I started receiving any backlash," Corban said. "It's horrifying. It reinforces why I carry. Nothing about my message or my experience changed. All that changed was how other people were interpreting that."

That's also when the threats and harassment began.

In January 2016, Corban was invited to ask a question of then-president Barack Obama during a CNN townhall event. She asked him why he wanted to make it harder for her to carry a gun for her self-protection and the protection of her children. The backlash shocked her.

"After the townhall on CNN aired, I mean, I wasn't prepared for the outreach to me as a person so I didn't have my social media locked down nearly like I do now," she said. "I had people writing heinous things on a picture of my daughter with her first birthday cake. They're writing terrible things about how they hope she gets my gun and shoots me. I had people direct message me saying my rapist didn't finish the job, he should've just killed me.

"I had one guy actually look up where I work, find the address, and send me a postcard with disgusting words that didn't quite reach the legal definition for probable cause but I turned that over to the authorities."

"You truly are a soulless, self-righteous, self-serving bitch with sick gun fetish. Do us all a favor & blow your own brains out," Twitter user Lou Aguilar said to Dana Loesch on Oct. 3."
You quoted the woman's question to Obama. But I notice that you didn't post his answer to her. Why is that? Because Obama made no attempt to keep that woman or any other woman from carrying a LEGAL concealed weapon?

His answer...
Well, Kimberly, first of all, obviously, your story is horrific. The strength you’ve shown in telling your story and being here tonight is remarkable. And so I’m really proud of you for that.

I just want to repeat that there’s nothing that we’ve proposed that would make it harder for you to purchase a firearm. And now, you may be referring to issues like concealed carry, but those tend to be state-by-state decisions, and we’re not making any proposals with respect to what states are doing. They can make their own decisions there. So there really is no -- nothing that we’re proposing that prevents you or makes it harder for you to purchase a firearm if you need one.
 

freyasman

Senator
You quoted the woman's question to Obama. But I notice that you didn't post his answer to her. Why is that? Because Obama made no attempt to keep that woman or any other woman from carrying a LEGAL concealed weapon?

His answer...
Well, Kimberly, first of all, obviously, your story is horrific. The strength you’ve shown in telling your story and being here tonight is remarkable. And so I’m really proud of you for that.

I just want to repeat that there’s nothing that we’ve proposed that would make it harder for you to purchase a firearm. And now, you may be referring to issues like concealed carry, but those tend to be state-by-state decisions, and we’re not making any proposals with respect to what states are doing. They can make their own decisions there. So there really is no -- nothing that we’re proposing that prevents you or makes it harder for you to purchase a firearm if you need one.
2 reasons;
1. It wasn't included in the article
2. He's a liar
 

NinaS

Senator
Supporting Member
2 reasons;
1. It wasn't included in the article
2. He's a liar
Of course it wasn't included in your RIGHT WING article. I took it upon myself to look for it because I've never ever seen you or anyone else give a link to prove that Obama tried to keep people from carrying LEGAL concealed weapons.
 

freyasman

Senator
I see you're pulling a drumcollie here. You have NOTHING to prove that Obama tried to keep anyone from LEGALLY carrying a concealed weapon, so you post some asinine, childish meme that has nothing to do with the subject.
Obama is a gun banner, the end.
Why are you trying so hard to change the subject? Why don't you want to discuss the OP? Are you one of the vicious little cowards who harassed these women online?
 

Caroljo

Senator
Of course it wasn't included in your RIGHT WING article. I took it upon myself to look for it because I've never ever seen you or anyone else give a link to prove that Obama tried to keep people from carrying LEGAL concealed weapons.
So where is your link? All you did was copy and paste. That isn't proving anything.
 

NinaS

Senator
Supporting Member
Obama is a gun banner, the end.
Why are you trying so hard to change the subject? Why don't you want to discuss the OP? Are you one of the vicious little cowards who harassed these women online?
The subject was about this woman accusing Obama of trying to take away her rights. I'm no coward, but let's see you PROVE that Obama wants to ban all guns. *Edited*. Link for Obama asking for banning all guns?? Or are you going to weasel out.
 
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redtide

Mayor
liberalism is a parasitic disease that seeks to infect other hosts even before it kills the original host. It always starts small and gnaws and gnaws until it has fixed roots. Look at diseased state of Cali. Now that thousands are now fleeing the state many of them are brining their wackadoodle Ideals with them and ruining states like Arizona and Texas. It all starts with disarming US. Once the people are disarmed to a level where the infected feel safe to spread their evil they do so rapidly.
 

freyasman

Senator
The subject was about this woman accusing Obama of trying to take away her rights. I'm no coward, but let's see you PROVE that Obama wants to ban all guns. You're so paranoid it's pathetic. Link for Obama asking for banning all guns?? Or are you going to weasel out.
No, it wasn't. The subject was the harassment of these women, including threats of rape and death, as well as threats against their children, for being gun rights advocates.
"Link for Obama asking for banning all guns?? Or are you going to weasel out."
***Personal attack edited***
 
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Deleted member 21794

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The subject was about this woman accusing Obama of trying to take away her rights. I'm no coward, but let's see you PROVE that Obama wants to ban all guns. You're so paranoid it's pathetic. Link for Obama asking for banning all guns?? Or are you going to weasel out.
There she goes again, moving the goal posts. Now she wants proof Obama wants to ban ALL GUNS- all the while Obama isn't even 2% of the OP topic.

Hilarious stupidity. Keep it up!
 
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Deleted member 21794

Guest
The subject was about this woman accusing Obama of trying to take away her rights. I'm no coward, but let's see you PROVE that Obama wants to ban all guns. You're so paranoid it's pathetic. Link for Obama asking for banning all guns?? Or are you going to weasel out.
Obama hates the Second Amendment. Educate yourself, *edited*:

Obama On Gun Control - The Facts
By SCRIBE From Rumor Mill News
9-14-8


HERE ARE THE FACTS:

On the Second Amendment, Don't Believe Obama

The presidential primary season is finally over, and it is now time for gun owners to take a careful look at just where nominee Barack Obama stands on issues related to the Second Amendment. During the primaries, Obama tried to hide behind vague statements of support for "sportsmen" or unfounded claims of general support for the right to keep and bear arms.

But his real record, based on votes taken, political associations, and long standing positions, shows that Barack Obama is a serious threat to Second Amendment liberties. Don't listen to his campaign rhetoric! Look instead to what he has said and done during his entire political career.

****Numbers in Brackets correspond to supporting evidence below****

FACT: Barack Obama opposes four of the five Supreme Court justices who affirmed an individual right to keep and bear arms. He voted against the confirmation of Alito and Roberts and he has stated he would not have appointed Thomas or Scalia. (17)

FACT: Barack Obama voted for an Illinois State Senate bill to ban and confiscate "assault weapons," but the bill was so poorly crafted, it would have also banned most semi-auto and single and double barrel shotguns commonly used by sportsmen. (18)

FACT: Barack Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry. (1)

FACT: Barack Obama wants to re-impose the failed and discredited Clinton Gun Ban. (15)

FACT: Barack Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting. (3)

FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a 500% increase in the federal excise tax on firearms and ammunition. (9)

FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership. (2)

FACT: Barack Obama supports local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities. (4)

FACT: Barack Obama voted to uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of people who use firearms in self-defense. (5)

FACT: Barack Obama supports gun owner licensing and gun registration. (6)

FACT: Barack Obama refused to sign a friend-of-the-court Brief in support of individual Second Amendment rights in the Heller case.

FACT: Barack Obama opposes Right to Carry laws. (7)

FACT: Barack Obama was a member of the Board of Directors of the Joyce Foundation, the leading source of funds for anti-gun organizations and "research." (8)

FACT: Barack Obama supported a proposal to ban gun stores within 5 miles of a school or park, which would eliminate almost every gun store in America. (9)

FACT: Barack Obama voted not to notify gun owners when the state of Illinois did records searches on them. (10)

FACT: Barack Obama voted against a measure to lower the Firearms Owners Identification card age minimum from 21 to 18, a measure designed to assist young people in the military. (11)

FACT: Barack Obama favors a ban on standard capacity magazines. (12)

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory micro-stamping. (13)

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory waiting periods. (2)

FACT: Barack Obama supports repeal of the Tiahrt Amendment, which prohibits information on gun traces collected by the BATFE from being used in reckless lawsuits against firearm dealers and manufacturers. (14)

FACT: Barack Obama supports one-gun-a-month handgun purchase restrictions.(16)

FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on inexpensive handguns. (9)

FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on the resale of police issued firearms, even if the money is going to police departments for replacement equipment.(9)

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory firearm training requirements for all gun owners and a ban on gun ownership for persons under the age of 21. (9)

******

1. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 219, July 29, 2005. (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_
cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00219)

2. Independent Voters of Illinois/Independent Precinct Organization general candidate questionnaire, Sept. 9, 1996. The responses on this survey were described in "Obama had greater role on liberal survey," Politico, March 31, 2008. (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9269.html)

3. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 217, Kennedy amendment July 29, 2005. (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/
roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00217)

4. David Wright, Ursula Fahy and Sunlen Miller, "Obama: 'Common Sense Regulation' On Gun Owners' Rights," ABC News' "Political Radar" Blog, http://blogs.abcnews.com, 2/15/08. (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/02/obama-common-se.html)

5. Illinois Senate, SB 2165, March 25, 2004, vote 20 and May 25, 2004, vote 3.

6. "Fact Check: No News In Obama's Consistent Record." Obama '08, December 11, 2007. (http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck/2007/12/11/fact_check_no_news_in_obamas_c.php)

7. "Candidates' gun control positions may figure in Pa. vote," Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Wednesday, April 2, 2008, and "Keyes, Obama Are Far Apart On Guns," Chicago Tribune, 9/15/04. (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_560181.html)

8. 1998 Joyce Foundation Annual Report, p. 7.

9. "Obama and Gun Control," The Volokh Conspiracy, taken from the Chicago Defender, Dec. 13, 1999. (<http://www.volokh.com/posts/1203389334.shtml)

10. Illinois Senate, May 5, 2002, SB 1936 Con., vote 26.

11. Illinois Senate, March 25, 2003, SB 2163, vote 18.

12. "Clinton, Edwards, Obama on gun control," Radio Iowa, Sunday, April 22, 2007. (http://learfield.typepad.com/radioiowa/2007/04/clinton_edwards.html)

13. Chicago Tribune blogs, "Barack Obama: NIU Shootings call for action," February 15, 2008, (http://blogs.trb.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/barack_obama_comments_on_shoot.html)

14. Barack Obama campaign website: "As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment . . ." (http://www.barackobama.com/issues/urbanpolicy/#crime-and-law-enforcement.)

15. Illinois Senate Debate #3: Barack Obama vs. Alan Keyes (http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Barack_Obama_Gun_Control.htm
and http://www.ontheissues.org/IL_2004_Senate_3rd.htm) Oct 21, 2004.

16. Illinois Senate, May 16, 2003, HB 2579, vote 34.

17. United States Senate vote 245, September 29, 2005 and vote 2, January 31, 2006 and Saddleback Forum, August 16, 2008.

18. Illinois Senate Judiciary Committee, March 13, 2003. To see the vote tally go to:
http://www.nrapvf.org/Media/pdf/sb1195_obama.pdf.


http://www.rense.com/general83/gun.htm
 
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freyasman

Senator
No, it wasn't. The subject was the harassment of these women, including threats of rape and death, as well as threats against their children, for being gun rights advocates.
"Link for Obama asking for banning all guns?? Or are you going to weasel out."
***Personal attack edited***
***Edited***

I don't think this is any more of a personal attack than ***Edited***
 
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Bernard_Fokke

Captain Fokke
Supporting Member
There she goes again, moving the goal posts. Now she wants proof Obama wants to ban ALL GUNS- all the while Obama isn't even 2% of the OP topic.

Hilarious stupidity. Keep it up!
As stated in one post above "Gunbanners can be notoriously dimwitted and vocal."
 

trapdoor

Governor
You quoted the woman's question to Obama. But I notice that you didn't post his answer to her. Why is that? Because Obama made no attempt to keep that woman or any other woman from carrying a LEGAL concealed weapon?

His answer...
Well, Kimberly, first of all, obviously, your story is horrific. The strength you’ve shown in telling your story and being here tonight is remarkable. And so I’m really proud of you for that.

I just want to repeat that there’s nothing that we’ve proposed that would make it harder for you to purchase a firearm. And now, you may be referring to issues like concealed carry, but those tend to be state-by-state decisions, and we’re not making any proposals with respect to what states are doing. They can make their own decisions there. So there really is no -- nothing that we’re proposing that prevents you or makes it harder for you to purchase a firearm if you need one.
Yes and as with his statement "If you like your insurnace you can keep it," this is a lie. Obama backed universal background checks, semi-auto bans, and numerous other gun control measures that would have made it more difficult for someone like the speaker to acquire a gun. He had no proposals about what the states were doing? Who cares, he was no longer state official.
 

NinaS

Senator
Supporting Member
Yes and as with his statement "If you like your insurnace you can keep it," this is a lie. Obama backed universal background checks, semi-auto bans, and numerous other gun control measures that would have made it more difficult for someone like the speaker to acquire a gun. He had no proposals about what the states were doing? Who cares, he was no longer state official.
I believe this article was about guns...not Obamacare.
 
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