What If They Gave A Shutdown And Nobody Cared?

[Zam-Zam]

A few here have been wringing their hands over the latest The sky is falling!" crisis (?), but for much of the nation it's just business as usual. That has to be frustrating for the panic-mongers:

There are many reasons why the nation has crisis disinterest right now.

First, there has been no shortage of past shutdowns or debt limit deadlines. Seventeen times from 1976 to 1996, the government shut down. As for raising the debt limit, it has happened 53 times from 1978 to 2013. Familiarity may breed contempt eventually, but it spawns apathy first.

Second, there is the question of the impact. America has been here before – already this year to be exact. Remember the ballyhooed $85 billion sequester earlier this year? Although billed as the apocalypse, the sequester’s lower spending levels are now the norm and people have moved on. The shutdown’s effects are far less at this point and no one expects the shutdown to last for as long as the sequester.

As of now, America has not felt the crisis. The same October AP poll asked: “have you personally or has anyone in your household felt any impact from the federal government shutdown, or not?” Eighty-one percent of respondents said “no.” Not many issues, let alone “crises,” prevail when they register less than one in five feeling an effect......

.......However, the biggest problem is with “crisis messaging” itself and the media’s dissemination of it. Everything in America is now a “crisis” – nowhere more so than in Washington and to no one more than the media. The problem is that when everything is a “crisis,” nothing is.


Complete text: http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2013/10/12/washington-d-c-is-crying-wolf-yet-again-but-no-one-is-listening/

 

[NightSwimmer]

As far as I can tell, most of the moaning and gnashing of teeth over the shutdown has come from the clown car at Fox News in their attempt to hang the blame for the shutdown on the Democratic Senate and the President.

Denial might make the GOP feel better about themselves, but it ain't selling out there in the heartland of America. This whole Ted Cruz extortion tactic has been a fvckup of major proportions.

 

[Zam-Zam]

As far as I can tell, most of the moaning and gnashing of teeth over the shutdown has come from the clown car at Fox News in their attempt to hang the blame for the shutdown on the Democratic Senate and the President.

Denial might make the GOP feel better about themselves, but it ain't selling out there in the heartland of America. This whole Ted Cruz extortion tactic has been a fvckup of major proportions.

As far as you can tell.

I'm not surprised by that.

 

[Zam-Zam]

Open your eyes. Look around you. Get your head out of your ass. Smell the coffee.

You really have nothing to offer do you?

I mean, ever.

 

[Zam-Zam]

I am told that there is no cure for stupidity. As yet, I've seen no evidence to the contrary. Certainly not in this thread.

You mean the thread you participated in?

You really don't have a clue what you're saying, do you?

 

[NightSwimmer]

I'm merely saying that the government shutdown was yet another Republican plan that went down in the flames of miserable failure. You should be used to it by now.

 

[Zam-Zam]

I'm merely saying that the government shutdown was yet another Republican plan that went down in the flames of miserable failure. You should be used to it by now.

In your little world, one side is always good and the other always evil. As such, you never evaluate any scenario objectively, you remain locked inside those self-erected parameters. The top post said nothing about Republicans and Democrats, but your mind cannot function on those terms, so you did the only thing you are capable of and immediately inserted your simplistic good versus evil paradigm. You will always do this, as if you feel incapable of discussing it (or anything else) on any other set of terms. And of course you will continue to have contempt for anyone who does not agree with your "analysis" in it's entirety. That's how a good versus evil mindset works.

 

[NightSwimmer]

You're the one living in a bubble. My world isn't "little". I live in the reality-based world.

 

[Minotaur]

May I offer a symbol to drive home the shutdown:

 

[Zam-Zam]

You're the one living in a bubble. My world isn't "little". I live in the reality-based world.

Best you could do?

We both know the answer, don't we?

 

[Zam-Zam]

May I offer a symbol to drive home the shutdown:

Over-simplified. It takes two to tango.

 

[NightSwimmer]

The shutdown failed. The attempt to blame the shutdown on the Democrats failed.

Now you've gone to denying that the shutdown even happened. Get your head out of your ass. You are embarrassing yourself.

 

[Minotaur]

Over-simplified. It takes two to tango.

undersimplified: Polls

 

[Colorforms]

May I offer a symbol to drive home the shutdown:

Actually, this is a fantastic comparison. We have a government who spends its time buying the good will of the people with the money of a select few, and shrinking. Conservatives, if not republicans, don't believe in the government handing everyone other people's stuff, or compelling others to give more than what it takes to run the government at it's base level. You could refer to them as "Grinches", except that Christmas for democrats is 27/7 because they can always grab more from producers.

 

[JuliefromOhio]

republicans campaigned on shutting down the government back in 2010 and again in 2012. when they finally shut down the govt, they cheered. as Michele Bachmann said, she'd never seen republicans happier than when they shut down the govt.

 

[GordonGecko]

This posts shows why the Shutdown is FAILING for the Right...

Half of them say "It's no big deal. Who cares?"

the other Half say "IT'S OBAMA'S FAULT! PUBLIC SHOULD HATE HIM FOR HOW HE HAS CREATED HIS DISASTER THAT IS THE SHUTDOWN!!!!!"

And both think they're not being contradictory to the other half.

 

[JuliefromOhio]

This posts shows why the Shutdown is FAILING for the Right...

Half of them say "It's no big deal. Who cares?"

the other Half say "IT'S OBAMA'S FAULT! PUBLIC SHOULD HATE HIM FOR HOW HE HAS CREATED HIS DISASTER THAT IS THE SHUTDOWN!!!!!"

And both think they're not being contradictory to the other half.

LOL

 

[connieb]

A few here have been wringing their hands over the latest The sky is falling!" crisis (?), but for much of the nation it's just business as usual. That has to be frustrating for the panic-mongers:

There are many reasons why the nation has crisis disinterest right now.

First, there has been no shortage of past shutdowns or debt limit deadlines. Seventeen times from 1976 to 1996, the government shut down. As for raising the debt limit, it has happened 53 times from 1978 to 2013. Familiarity may breed contempt eventually, but it spawns apathy first.

Second, there is the question of the impact. America has been here before – already this year to be exact. Remember the ballyhooed $85 billion sequester earlier this year? Although billed as the apocalypse, the sequester’s lower spending levels are now the norm and people have moved on. The shutdown’s effects are far less at this point and no one expects the shutdown to last for as long as the sequester.

As of now, America has not felt the crisis. The same October AP poll asked: “have you personally or has anyone in your household felt any impact from the federal government shutdown, or not?” Eighty-one percent of respondents said “no.” Not many issues, let alone “crises,” prevail when they register less than one in five feeling an effect......

.......However, the biggest problem is with “crisis messaging” itself and the media’s dissemination of it. Everything in America is now a “crisis” – nowhere more so than in Washington and to no one more than the media. The problem is that when everything is a “crisis,” nothing is.


Complete text: http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2013/10/12/washington-d-c-is-crying-wolf-yet-again-but-no-one-is-listening/

A few here have been wringing their hands over the latest The sky is falling!" crisis (?), but for much of the nation it's just business as usual. That has to be frustrating for the panic-mongers:

There are many reasons why the nation has crisis disinterest right now.

First, there has been no shortage of past shutdowns or debt limit deadlines. Seventeen times from 1976 to 1996, the government shut down. As for raising the debt limit, it has happened 53 times from 1978 to 2013. Familiarity may breed contempt eventually, but it spawns apathy first.

Second, there is the question of the impact. America has been here before – already this year to be exact. Remember the ballyhooed $85 billion sequester earlier this year? Although billed as the apocalypse, the sequester’s lower spending levels are now the norm and people have moved on. The shutdown’s effects are far less at this point and no one expects the shutdown to last for as long as the sequester.

As of now, America has not felt the crisis. The same October AP poll asked: “have you personally or has anyone in your household felt any impact from the federal government shutdown, or not?” Eighty-one percent of respondents said “no.” Not many issues, let alone “crises,” prevail when they register less than one in five feeling an effect......

.......However, the biggest problem is with “crisis messaging” itself and the media’s dissemination of it. Everything in America is now a “crisis” – nowhere more so than in Washington and to no one more than the media. The problem is that when everything is a “crisis,” nothing is.


Complete text: http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2013/10/12/washington-d-c-is-crying-wolf-yet-again-but-no-one-is-listening/

I admit i am of the "what crisis" group. Just like the sequester - the impact to the public at large is minimal and would be less so - if they hadn't bothered with the barricades, etc. Yes, there are people not getting a check. That sucks for them.... but do you really think the average american who doesn't work for the Federal Government actually gives a shit if they sit home on their butts or not? How many other people were out of work a few years ago when these people were working..... I doubt you'll get much sympathy for their plight.

On a positive note, the traffic has been awesome. I have saved about 15 - 20 minutes each way of a commute.

connie

 

[Zam-Zam]

The shutdown failed. The attempt to blame the shutdown on the Democrats failed.

Now you've gone to denying that the shutdown even happened. Get your head out of your ass. You are embarrassing yourself.

I'll consider the source.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

A few here have been wringing their hands over the latest The sky is falling!" crisis (?), but for much of the nation it's just business as usual. That has to be frustrating for the panic-mongers:

There are many reasons why the nation has crisis disinterest right now.

First, there has been no shortage of past shutdowns or debt limit deadlines. Seventeen times from 1976 to 1996, the government shut down. As for raising the debt limit, it has happened 53 times from 1978 to 2013. Familiarity may breed contempt eventually, but it spawns apathy first.

Second, there is the question of the impact. America has been here before – already this year to be exact. Remember the ballyhooed $85 billion sequester earlier this year? Although billed as the apocalypse, the sequester’s lower spending levels are now the norm and people have moved on. The shutdown’s effects are far less at this point and no one expects the shutdown to last for as long as the sequester.

As of now, America has not felt the crisis. The same October AP poll asked: “have you personally or has anyone in your household felt any impact from the federal government shutdown, or not?” Eighty-one percent of respondents said “no.” Not many issues, let alone “crises,” prevail when they register less than one in five feeling an effect......

.......However, the biggest problem is with “crisis messaging” itself and the media’s dissemination of it. Everything in America is now a “crisis” – nowhere more so than in Washington and to no one more than the media. The problem is that when everything is a “crisis,” nothing is.


Complete text: http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2013/10/12/washington-d-c-is-crying-wolf-yet-again-but-no-one-is-listening/

Nobody cares?

The Pugs never stop screeching about the negative effects of their shutdown.

But, being Pugs, they blame the consequences of their actions on Obama.