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You didn't have to chime in if you were not interested in the topic. Oddly enough, you feel forced sterilization is worthy of discussion, but not teenage pregnancy? .... There's a door at both ends of a thread Bo
You didn't have to chime in if you were not interested in the topic. Oddly enough, you feel forced sterilization is worthy of discussion, but not teenage pregnancy? .... There's a door at both ends of a thread Bo
There's a disconnect in the article: the parents say they weren't informed but the providers say they were given access to information about the program and the list of participating students. I don't get squeaky about teenagers having sex, teenagers have been doing so since time. They should certainly be informed about the consequences, especially STDs. My biggest problem with this is that if the parents weren't informed (or didn't pursue obtaining the information), then the potential health affects of introducing synthetic hormones into a teenager could be missed. The article states that "complete health histories" were taken, but the information was provided by the recipients and they very well may not know any family history of breast, cervical, uterine, or ovarian cancer and this information is quite pertinent when obtaining hormone-based contraceptives. In general I think that parents should be informed about their children's health, it's one of the areas parents are responsible for afterall. But I also don't get hang-wringing hysterical at the thought of teenagers having sex.What if the Obama Admin approved this for US schools?
Girls, 13, given contraceptive implants at school http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9065998/Girls-13-given-contraceptive-implants-at-school.html
After all the fuss about the Gardasil vaccine, what would the reaction to implanted birth control be?
And, the other side of the coin: what would the reaction be if this was implemented by a GOP admin.?
It's okay....REALLY. He was posting to me...."Sistah" meaning Nina in this case. He probably will leave when he feels like it. Dontcha think? Or maybe a MODERATOR will guide him. I doubt he needs anyone's guidance here.You didn't have to chime in if you were not interested in the topic. Oddly enough, you feel forced sterilization is worthy of discussion, but not teenage pregnancy? .... There's a door at both ends of a thread Bo
Well since this is happening in ENGLAND and not here, I guess you can cross that bridge if and when it's built.No one has a right to give my MINOR child contraceptives of any kind- least of all perform a surgical procedure on her without my permission. It's absolutely ridiculous! Our school district is required to call parents to administer a simple aspirin.
I don't know how anyone could think this is OK.
I opted to have my daughter vaccinated with Gardasil. I see no reason not to; however it was MY choice, not the schools.
The gov needs to not only stay out of my womb; but they need to stay out of my child's womb as well. Period.
Hysteria over what is going on elsewhere. YIKES. I'm with you....Such as? I don't think parents are condoning kids having sex. Such malarky!!! Kids were having sex when I was a teen and that has been EONS ago LOLSuch as?
6X8. some religions are against birth control. I suspect that it is because over a period of time it would affect their numbers and consequently their income.How does Birth control become a religious thing?
Nina, as an Atheist I don't believe in hell, but I would agree to let these parents rot in a closet simliar to the one in which they imprisoned their daughter.And sometimes (when it concerns their children) the courts step in....which is their right. That's what courts are for...to protect innocents. I saw a girl who is now 18 yrs old who was kept in a closet by her parents between the age of 2 and 8. When they found her she was 3 ft tall and weighed 28 lb at 8 yrs of age. I suppose her parents thought that since they gave her life they could also speed up her death. Child abuse is not acceptable to me no matter what the excuse. I hope the parents rot in hell.
Jim could you please give a link or your authority for the statement, "Today, some public schools mandate teaching children still in kindergarten about sexual matters, including homosexuality."The top post posits a question that is relevant to government control of what should be exclusively a parents decision for their minor children. Although the subsequent posts have veered off into other, tangentially related areas and some with no relation at all (Sarah Palin's children) the implied warning of how a nanny-state, authoritarian government bureaucracy could one day remove parents rights to make medical decisions for their minor children, especially where sexual issues come into play, is worth considering. Today, some public schools mandate teaching children still in Kindergarten about sexual matters, including homosexuality. It isn't that great a leap to envision a state or federal government someday in the not-so-distant future mandating more invasive sex-related issues, including the kind in the top post.
That millions of Americans take their religion's teaching seriously and object to government intervention in their children's lives to this extent, no matter the rationale, is understandable. That others wave it away is also not a shock. It's all in your POV. This is an example of the kind of social and political divide the U.S. is experiencing. Each side blames the other but Americans that hold what used to be known as traditional values are under a steady assault. Not from just the Obama administration and their misguided attempt to pick a fight with the Catholic church over mandating contraception coverage in employee health benefits, which is directly contrary to Catholic teaching, but from various and sundry advocacy groups that are determined to wipe out what were once considered sensible moral/cultural values and replace them with something far more 'progressive'.
The next decade will only see this battle escalate, whether we have a Democrat or Republican president because it goes far beyond political parties or personalities. When Mitt Romney talks about the 2012 election being for the "soul of America", he is closer to the truth than he probably realizes. The U.S. is either going to continue to drift left toward European socialism and the massive debt that carries as opportunities decrease for the population or begin a return to a more American model of government, without the oppressive hand of a nanny state government standing in the way and making rules and laws that restrict our freedoms, all for our own good, of course, of course. We'll know a lot more on November 7th, 2012.
Hint: you won't get one.Jim could you please give a link or your authority for the statement, "Today, some public schools mandate teaching children still in kindergarten about sexual matters, including homosexuality."
Bobby, yours is one of the more sensible posts in this thread. You've just won one of my hoarded stars!There's a disconnect in the article: the parents say they weren't informed but the providers say they were given access to information about the program and the list of participating students. I don't get squeaky about teenagers having sex, teenagers have been doing so since time. They should certainly be informed about the consequences, especially STDs. My biggest problem with this is that if the parents weren't informed (or didn't pursue obtaining the information), then the potential health affects of introducing synthetic hormones into a teenager could be missed. The article states that "complete health histories" were taken, but the information was provided by the recipients and they very well may not know any family history of breast, cervical, uterine, or ovarian cancer and this information is quite pertinent when obtaining hormone-based contraceptives. In general I think that parents should be informed about their children's health, it's one of the areas parents are responsible for afterall. But I also don't get hang-wringing hysterical at the thought of teenagers having sex.
Didn't really expect one.Hint: you won't get one.
What if the Obama Admin approved this for US schools?
Girls, 13, given contraceptive implants at school http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9065998/Girls-13-given-contraceptive-implants-at-school.html
After all the fuss about the Gardasil vaccine, what would the reaction to implanted birth control be?
And, the other side of the coin: what would the reaction be if this was implemented by a GOP admin.?
Yeah, been down that path myself. Lots (and lots and lots) of words, little fact.Didn't really expect one.