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WHATSAPP - nothing to see here........nothing wrong when a Trump does it

Discussion in 'Latest Political News and Current Events' started by sensible don, Mar 22, 2019.

  1. sensible don

    sensible don Mayor

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    Spin Away !
    https://www.newsweek.com/jared-kushner-whatsapp-ivanka-trump-clinton-emails-1371897

    JARED KUSHNER'S USING WHATSAPP FOR WHITE HOUSE BUSINESS IS 'FAR MORE EGREGIOUS' THAN HILLARY CLINTON'S EMAILS, CYBERSECURITY EXPERT SAYS

    Jared Kushner’s alleged use of WhatsApp to talk about White House business with foreign governments was dangerous, a cybersecurity and intelligence expert warned, because it left him exposed to espionage.

    As President Donald Trump’s son-in-law and White House adviser on foreign policy, Kushner has influence on key decisions, such as Middle East policy, and speaks frequently with world leaders on behalf of the administration.

    Ivanka Trump, the president’s eldest daughter, a White House adviser and Kushner’s wife, also used a personal email account for official business, although she said it was primarily logistical and that she switched to a government account when ethics concerns were raised.

    During a discussion about the Kushner WhatsApp news on MSNBC’s The 11th Hour, Clint Watts, a former FBI special agent and a cybersecurity expert, noted a story in The New York Timesabout “internet mercenaries” selling their hacking skills to foreign governments.

    Watts told The 11th Hour that these private security companies were now targeting people "in their communications at the point of origin—at the phone."

    He continued: "This is what it's about now. It's not about this intercepting en route. It's about companies now that have the ability—and this is well-known in cybersecurity circles, I hear about it all the time—going in and targeting anyone's phone and being able to tap into those communications. We cannot have this."

    Watts, a senior fellow at George Washington University's Center for Cyber and Homeland Security, drew a comparison with the Trump campaign's attacks on Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's use of a private server for official emails.

    Shortly before the 2016 election, then-FBI Director James Comey said at the conclusion of an investigation into Clinton's use of a private email server that no criminal charges would be brought against her.

    But he went on to say she and her aides had been extremely careless because some of the tens of thousands of emails sent using the server contained classified information. Some personal emails sent before 2014 had been deleted. Comey said there was no evidence of a cover-up.

    “We heard 'emails, lock her up, emails, lock her up,'” Watts told MSNBC. “To me [Kushner’s alleged use of WhatsApp] is far more egregious. This is foreign business interactions and, by the way, it's being blocked from other parts of the U.S. government. This means foreign leaders have a better understanding about what the White House is communicating than our own intelligence community, our own law enforcement, and our own allies.

    “This puts us in a very dangerous position because as an executive branch, or legislative branch, we really don't know what's going on at the top. And we have no oversight of it.”

    House Oversight Committee Chairman Elijah Cummings, a Maryland Democrat, sent a letter to White House counsel Pat Cipollone on Thursday alleging that Kushner "has used—and continues to use—WhatsApp as part of his official duties in the White House.”

    Cummings said Abbe Lowell, Kushner's lawyer, had disclosed the information in December, including Kushner's use of WhatsApp to speak with foreign leaders.


    Lowell said his client is in compliance with records preservation laws because he sent screen shots of his conversations to his White House email account, although Lowell said he was not aware if Kushner had sent any classified information via WhatsApp.

    Lowell disputed some of Cummings's claims in a subsequent letter of his own, published by Politico. He denied saying Kushner had used WhatsApp to communicate with foreign leaders, and said he had directed the chairman to approach the White House counsel with such questions.
     
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  2. Bugsy McGurk

    Bugsy McGurk President

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    GOP cultists don’t even pretend to care about our country anymore.

    Trump toadies who shouldn’t have security clearances in the first place use unsecured means of communicating and the cultists just don’t care. They’re fine with it.

    Their ONLY concern is Trump and the GOP, the interests of the nation be damned.
     
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  3. JuliefromOhio

    JuliefromOhio Senator Supporting Member

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    Two entitled rich kids get jobs in the executive branch thanks to Trump violating our nepotism laws.
    Intel says neither should have security clearances.
    Both Jared and Ivanka proceed to ignore restrictions on communications proving Intel was right all along.

    LOCK THEM UP.
     
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  4. Dawg

    Dawg President Supporting Member

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    I see ONE difference they know what he's using and they didn't know what she was using that was hidden in her closet.
     
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  5. JuliefromOhio

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    Abbe Lowell was a fool for taking Kushner on as a client.
     
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  6. Bugsy McGurk

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    Yeah, maybe it’s better if foreign spies know what they’re using.

    ;-)
     
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  7. Bugsy McGurk

    Bugsy McGurk President

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    From the sounds of things he’s wising up - he’s not going down with the Trump crime family.
     
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  8. Dawg

    Dawg President Supporting Member

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    You think they didn't know of Hillaryous secret server? Are you really as stupid as you post to be?
     
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  9. Marcus Aurelius

    Marcus Aurelius Governor Supporting Member

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    odd. I'm sure there's a rule about posting so much content without linking to the source.....................................
     
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  10. Bugsy McGurk

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    There should be a rule about bitching about the source when the same story is being reported in all legit media.
     
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  11. Dawg

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    they hacked Hillaryous server
     
  12. sensible don

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    So NO ONE CARES !!!!!!!!!! just about the source, well isn't that a bit one sided , heavy handed ................. nothing to see here other than nuclear info............move along, after all it was a Trump and the righties see no Trumpian evil, hear no Trumpian evil but sure speak evil of the dems who do the something similar - I believe even chant " lock her up" hundreds of times, HYPOCRISY MUCH - Show your true colors !!! How about just 1 round of " lock him up" c'mon , just one?
     
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  14. Colorforms

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    Already gave my take on Bugsy's hair on fire top post. He's using it to chat with foreign dignitaries. It's not like he needs the batphone for that.
     
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    Some of the email the republicans said was classified was when Hillary communicated her schedule to the PM of the UK....
     
  16. EatTheRich

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    The idea of state secrets is a statist, anti-Bill of Rights position. The intelligence folks don’t have our beat interests at heart.
     

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