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Whoops! Biden Reportedly Involved With 2016 Spying on Trump!

Discussion in 'Latest Political News and Current Events' started by SoccerMom, May 24, 2019.

  1. middleview

    middleview President Supporting Member

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    There is no evidence that he was working for western intelligence. If he was affiliated with Russian intelligence...how better to be productive than to "buddy up" with numerous western diplomats. If he was a western intel asset, what was he doing hanging out in London? How was he helping the west?

    He had a lot of contacts. He didn't even have to be an asset for either side. He may have been told by someone that the Russians had dirt and he passed it on.
     
  2. Raoul_Luke

    Raoul_Luke I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.

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    And there's no "proof" he was a Russian asset either. He was hanging out in London with British and US intelligence agents and affiliates. Why would they "hang out" with him if he was a "known" Russian operative?
     
  3. Raoul_Luke

    Raoul_Luke I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.

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    You talking about the Mueller Report? If so, I agree.
     
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  4. middleview

    middleview President Supporting Member

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    You have yet to show he was known to be a Russian asset nor can you show he was a western asset. What western intel agents was he hanging out with? Something else you imply but cannot prove.
     
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    middleview President Supporting Member

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  6. Raoul_Luke

    Raoul_Luke I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.

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    “I am a member of the European Council on Foreign Relations … and you know which is the only foundation I am member of? The Clinton Foundation,” the professor, Joseph Mifsud, told the Italian news outlet Repubblica in November.

    “Between you and me, my thinking is left-leaning. But I predicted Trump’s victory as well as Brexit. Everyone of us wants peace. If the governments don’t talk each other, we citizens must keep talking,” added Mifsud.


    https://dailycaller.com/2018/03/30/joseph-mifsud-papadopoulos-clinton-foundation/
     
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  7. John Doe

    John Doe I detest liberalism

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    How's it looking for the fake hispanic? lol
     
  8. middleview

    middleview President Supporting Member

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    How does someone become a member of the Clinton Foundation?
    https://www.clintonfoundation.org/about/board-directors

    Based on your link, Misfud was not the source of Papadopoulos' info on DNC email...So you've just destroyed your own allegation that Misfud told Papadopoulos and Papa then told the Australian ambassador....and it was staged by the CIA or Obama...
     
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  9. Colorforms

    Colorforms Senator

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    None of this puzzles me. The only thing that does is how ignorant you fight so hard to be. :)
     
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  10. middleview

    middleview President Supporting Member

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    You don't want to know the facts of what you have posted. If communications are stored on your PC or on your phone, how do they become available for review by the FBI as part of the Fisa authorized warrant? Typically that is done by confiscating your devices. That wasn't done.
     
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    Colorforms Senator

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    I probably finger fumbles something completely unrecognizable and didn't go back to edit. If it really hurts your snowflake sensibilities so much, I will be sure to double check anything that I post to you, and blow off any debate to help you with any of your syntax in the future. I know it will be greatly appreciated. :)
     
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    It wasn't? Let's see your proof. :)
     
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    now_what Mayor Supporting Member

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    Better for Biden! He has my vote! But I’m glad my avatar still gets cons triggered. : )
     
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  14. middleview

    middleview President Supporting Member

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    Actually started before the election. Remember the woman who called Obama an Arab? I was impressed that McCain corrected her, but he couldn't seem to correct his supporters who called Obama a traitor and a terrorist (which continues to this day).
     
  15. Raoul_Luke

    Raoul_Luke I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.

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    Apparently, like Dorothy in Oz, one only need think it, and they are. Or, as in his case, simply become a donor:

    Screen Shot 2019-05-26 at 1.10.56 PM.

    According to my link Mifsud claims he wasn't the source. Papadopoulos says he was. We know who you are going to believe - the guy who has the most to gain by lying. Without "Russian asset" Mifsud being the source, your argument that the Crossfire Hurricane crowd had good reason to suspect Papadopoulos was working for the Russians is destroyed.
     
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    middleview President Supporting Member

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    I work in IT and probably know better than you. What systems would you go to for past communication? The phone company? Do you really think they record your conversations? They don't. I worked for a national phone company in IT for 2 years and know the systems intimately. When people talk about "metadata" do you know what it means? I do, because I wrote code to deal with that data.

    Do you think your email provider keeps your email? They may, if you configure your email to be saved after you read it (meaning it was copied to your PC). Even so they limit how much they'll keep. Most people delete it from the provider as it is copied to your system.
    My provider keeps my deleted email for 3 days.

    Tweets may be saved longer. I'm less familiar with that system, but it does seem like it is searchable. Any evidence that Page was tweeting with the campaign?
     
  17. Raoul_Luke

    Raoul_Luke I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.

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    Actually in that avatar of yours, ol Beto looks like he's striking a messianic pose. He (apparently) thinks he is the messiah. Do you think he is the messiah?
     
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    Colorforms Senator

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    So you got nothing. And being in IT is a little different than knowing FBI procedures. At least any sane person would assume that.
     
  19. Raoul_Luke

    Raoul_Luke I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.

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    Unless you are using IMAP, in which case they are stored on the provider's server, am I right? Or, of course, a gmail account...
     
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    middleview President Supporting Member

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    1. You didn't provide a link to your information. How much did he donate? There are 350 pages of donors of $250 or less....
    2. Misfud is irrelevant since we know that the Australian ambassador told Australian intelligence that he'd been learned the Russians had hacked email from Papadopoulos.
     

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