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Why all the vitriol directed at Louie Gohmert...

middleview

President
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It appears to have been an insular group of like minded (anti-Trump) agents under the auspices of Andy McCabe. Why would his co-conspirators come forward?
Ah, so now it isn't just Strzok...it is a bunch of FBI agents, none of which have been called to testify and all of them Trump haters...
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Which has what to do with my post?
It appears that Strzok allowed his bias against Trump to drive a fake investigation of Russian "collusion." He says that isn't so, but he obviously lived a grotesque lie in his marriage for many months. So he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt. Trump would likewise be untrustworthy but what crime is he denying?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
It appears that Strzok allowed his bias against Trump to drive a fake investigation of Russian "collusion." He says that isn't so, but he obviously lived a grotesque lie in his marriage for many months. So he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt. Trump would likewise be untrustworthy but what crime is he denying?
Trump denies there was collusion between his campaign and the Russian government, but he obviously lived grotesque lies in his marriages over the years...so he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt.

Really? What crime is he denying?
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Trump denies there was collusion between his campaign and the Russian government, but he obviously lived grotesque lies in his marriages over the years...so he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt.

Really? What crime is he denying?
Where's the evidence of Trump's "collusion?" I see plenty of evidence of Strzok's use of his office for political purposes (that's a crime, right?).
 

Dino

Russian Asset
1. Typically a "crooked cop" is out for personal gain. Do you have any evidence of that with either Strzok or Page?
2. You say there is evidence of negligence? Got a link to show that?
3. You say there is evidence of partisanship in the way he conducted the two investigations? Do you have a link to show that?

I watched the hearing where the republicans did all they could to discredit Strzok...they didn't bring up one single piece of evidence that would cast doubt on the investigation, no matter what they had to say about Strzok and Page's relationship.

How many FBI agents were on the investigations? How many have come forward to say that the investigation was slanted or interfered with by Strzok or Page? None. How can that possibly be the case?
Crooked biased cops don’t necessarily get any personal gain, like those who beat suspects based on a personal or political bias. There was much more to gain politically with this level of attack against Trump.
This article does well to prove the bias displayed both in going after Trump and inexplicably pardoning Clinton and all her associates who committed multiple felonies.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/06/inspector-general-report-reveals-fbi-bias-in-clinton-email-investigation/

The negligence is manifold.
The article describes it well but doesn’t go into enough of the details on the most egregious example- the issuing of immunity and never following up in prosecuting the multiple levels of staff and support who handled the email and bleach-bit attack on subpoenaed material.
The smokescreen of the left is that the IG report doesn’t declare basic political opposition and downright hatred as bias in the investigation. It doesn’t assign bias as the reason for the negligence and incompetence But if this wasn’t an organized political cabal then where is the fallout for the huge investigative errors.
Read the article and it clarifies my position clearly. This was an investigation shrouded in intentional errors and an obvious bias against one candidate.
And lastly, there are dozens of FBI agents complaining about the way the investigation was handled. They have been quiet for now but word is they want to make the facts known.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Crooked biased cops don’t necessarily get any personal gain, like those who beat suspects based on a personal or political bias. There was much more to gain politically with this level of attack against Trump.
This article does well to prove the bias displayed both in going after Trump and inexplicably pardoning Clinton and all her associates who committed multiple felonies.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/06/inspector-general-report-reveals-fbi-bias-in-clinton-email-investigation/

The negligence is manifold.
The article describes it well but doesn’t go into enough of the details on the most egregious example- the issuing of immunity and never following up in prosecuting the multiple levels of staff and support who handled the email and bleach-bit attack on subpoenaed material.
The smokescreen of the left is that the IG report doesn’t declare basic political opposition and downright hatred as bias in the investigation. It doesn’t assign bias as the reason for the negligence and incompetence But if this wasn’t an organized political cabal then where is the fallout for the huge investigative errors.
Read the article and it clarifies my position clearly. This was an investigation shrouded in intentional errors and an obvious bias against one candidate.
And lastly, there are dozens of FBI agents complaining about the way the investigation was handled. They have been quiet for now but word is they want to make the facts known.
The article you linked to is clearly biased and contains significant false information...
What "bleach bit attack" are you talking about? Do you know what bleach bit is or who used it on the email server?

Your link claims thousands of emails with classified information on them...In fact they were classified after the fact, not at the time they were sent to Clinton. A number were incorrectly classified. Read this...it clarifies the facts.

https://www.factcheck.org/2016/08/clintons-email-falsehood/

You say there were dozens of FBI agents complaining....got a link?
 

Dino

Russian Asset
The article you linked to is clearly biased and contains significant false information...
What "bleach bit attack" are you talking about? Do you know what bleach bit is or who used it on the email server?

Your link claims thousands of emails with classified information on them...In fact they were classified after the fact, not at the time they were sent to Clinton. A number were incorrectly classified. Read this...it clarifies the facts.

https://www.factcheck.org/2016/08/clintons-email-falsehood/

You say there were dozens of FBI agents complaining....got a link?
https://www.westernjournal.com/report-fbi-agents-want-to-be-subpoenaed-to-testify-against-comey-mccabe/

https://spectator.org/former-u-s-attorney-agents-see-fbi-chief-comey-as-a-dirty-cop/

http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/25/hillary-clinton-deleted-emails-using-program-intended-to-prevent-recovery/

Bleachbit used to delete emails intended to prevent their recovery. Kinda says it all.
Many of these emails already contained lettered markings for their classification level. Every incident of transmission to insecure sources constitutes a crime.
 
If he feels that Strzok somehow altered the course of the investigation into either Clinton or Trump, then he must show evidence of that ............
EASY PEASY!

The evidence that Peter Strzok DIRECTLY ALTERED the Clinton investigation has been publicly known for months. But I realize you relish being uninformed and ignorant.

Peter Strzok was the person that changed the wording in the findings report at the conclusion of the Hilliary Clinton email investigation from "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless" allowing her to escape the criminal charges as specifically outlined in the statute. The IG proved that Strzok personally changed the wording from his office computer. This is a fact.

From CNN.......

"The shift from "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless," which may appear pedestrian at first glance, reflected a decision by the FBI that could have had potentially significant legal implications, as the federal law governing the mishandling of classified material establishes criminal penalties for "gross negligence."

https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/04/politics/peter-strzok-james-comey/index.html
 
It appears that Strzok allowed his bias against Trump to drive a fake investigation of Russian "collusion." He says that isn't so, but he obviously lived a grotesque lie in his marriage for many months. So he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt. Trump would likewise be untrustworthy but what crime is he denying?
https://therealnews.com/stories/has-mueller-caught-the-hackers

"Special Counsel Robert Mueller has indicted 12 officials with the GRU, Russia’s main foreign intelligence agency, for allegedly meddling in the 2016 election, including hacking Democratic Party emails.

"Case closed?

"Author and investigative journalist Michael Isikoff of Yahoo News joins TRNN’s Aaron Mate to discuss."

This ~20:00 minute TRNN interview reveals the skepticism of an authentic leftist (Aaron Mate) to the notion Russia played any substantive role in electing Trump.

Personally, I'm finding it harder and harder to deny the obvious; although, both sides of this debate make solid points.
 
The man lies 76% of the time.

Horrifyingly deplorable.
He never expected (or probably wanted to) win.
The idea was to burnish his brand enough to lure Roger Ailes, Sean Hannity, and Bill O'Reilly away from Fox News and launch Trump TV. Now, he's clueless about what to do, so he falls back on lying and lining his pockets with as much filthy lucre as he possibly can before the entire house of cards comes tumbling down.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
He never expected (or probably wanted to) win.
The idea was to burnish his brand enough to lure Roger Ailes, Sean Hannity, and Bill O'Reilly away from Fox News and launch Trump TV. Now, he's clueless about what to do, so he falls back on lying and lining his pockets with as much filthy lucre as he possibly can before the entire house of cards comes tumbling down.
Yup. He’s doing the same thing in a new forum - running scams and trying to stay out of prison.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
https://therealnews.com/stories/has-mueller-caught-the-hackers

"Special Counsel Robert Mueller has indicted 12 officials with the GRU, Russia’s main foreign intelligence agency, for allegedly meddling in the 2016 election, including hacking Democratic Party emails.

"Case closed?

"Author and investigative journalist Michael Isikoff of Yahoo News joins TRNN’s Aaron Mate to discuss."

This ~20:00 minute TRNN interview reveals the skepticism of an authentic leftist (Aaron Mate) to the notion Russia played any substantive role in electing Trump.

Personally, I'm finding it harder and harder to deny the obvious; although, both sides of this debate make solid points.

Get back to me when the Mueller team says Trump was involved...
 

Bugsy McGurk

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That's the Big Question in my mind.
Will the powers that be send Trump to prison?
I have a suspicion they will not.
What do you think?
No way the GOP Congress will take action against Trump for his crimes. Enforcement of our laws depends on the Dems taking control of Congress. Failing that, the Trump lawlessness and the Kremlin’s capture of our government will continue and get worse.
 
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