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Why Citizenship is the Lowest Class of all

Iconoclasm

Council Member
I became self aware a few days ago when I discovered that I, as well everyone else in this country we call the United States of America, have been victimized by an artificial entity. That's right, victimized through age old techniques of indoctrination a.k.a. brainwashing!
This revelation came to me when my friends son refused to perform the pledge of allegiance in school. I admired the fact that he stood his ground in his refusal to mindlessly make the daily pledge of allegiance. I had often thought about how much we all had been programmed, in what I now refer to as the Public Indoctrination System, to all "patriotically" perform this pledge of allegiance. So I decided to scrutinize this controlled programming and it brought me to a new understanding of reality. Not the reality brought to you courtesy of the Founding Fathers through their artificial entity government, but a reality, newly discovered by myself. It is very interesting what I learned. Remember the movie "The Matrix?" Well, you're all living in one, again, courtesy of the Founding Fathers!
I began to question everything I had ever been taught in school from those Founding Fathers to our politicians and our Presidents. I questioned all our wars and all the events which led up to them. I questioned our legal system our monetary system and our so called freedom and patriotism. Lastly, I questioned the "citizenship" we all hold so dear and all I can say is damn, have we been hoodwinked!
What you first have to understand is that it is assumed by our legal system that because you were born in the confines of this land mass known as America that that automatically makes you a citizen. Interestingly, I for one, and everyone else as far as I know, was never given another option. Do you remember ever being asked to join Club USA? Furthermore, did you know that your citizenship is directly tied to your birth certificate? Did you also know that everyone has a "true legal name?" That is because your parents unwittingly left the certificate of your birth behind at the hospital you were born at and the state in which you reside obtained it as lost property allowing them to secure it as their own property, and hence, your true legal name became valuable to the US and state where you resides governments. This is what puts you under a particular jurisdiction. Furthermore, that birth certificate, with your names in block letters is what is used when issuing you a drivers license after you turn 16 years of age. The issuance of such depends upon your checking a little box declaring that you are a citizen, otherwise, NO LICENSE! You have, at that point in your life, been fraudulently induced. In other words, your friendly neighborhood government, held a carrot stick out to you for compliance, and like the giddy little child you were, you checked the box without giving it another thought. Little did you know that it was at this point that you became the property of (or under the jurisdiction of) the state where you reside. You are now under their jurisdiction. In other words you are theirs! Welcome to the lowest class of all......."citizen!"
For most of you, being a citizen is just fine, after all, it is much easier to be led than to lead,
and by the looks of those Democrats and Republicans you have been repeatedly voting into office, that is plain to see. The bar is set pretty low! That may be because thinking is hard work....in fact, it's the hardest work of all! That "laziness" is why most neglect to do so. Now, let's take it one step further and think "outside the box." It's only for those of you with critical thinking abilities who have the tendency to think outside the box who will understand me when I tell you that if you really want to free, you must lose the "citizen" label. This is where you will most easily notice the "benefits" of being a citizen as your own complacence under the "compliance of law" heading. When you are stopped by a cop or questioned by your child's school faculty questioning your parenting skills, etc., this is where your citizen title shines. It shines under the auspices of authority. But I must now ask you this, from where is their authority derived? Consider this, If I was not born with any special authority to command you, and you were not born with any special authority to command me, and no one else on this entire God forsaken planet was born with any special authority either, then how do two or more people combine the authority they don't even possess to vote someone else out of their rights? ZERO authority plus ZERO authority equals ZERO authority! Where, if they had no authority in the first place, did they pick up the right to vote someone else out of their rights? Voting should be considered a criminal act whenever it goes beyond the law of trespass. The law of trespass is the only natural, or punishable law, all other laws, such as the drug laws, are used for control measures. To control you "free" citizens, they create and use freedom robbing laws which do not make you free, but instead rob you of the freedom you are entitled to as a human being. GOVERNMENT DOES NOT GIVE YOU YOUR FREEDOM, IT ROBS YOU OF IT!!!
To know whether or not you are a free person, you must first realize that you have been duped through the mechanism of indoctrination all of your lives as have your parents and their parents before them, and theirs before them etc. You were first subject to their schools of indoctrination where on a mass scale and over time they have taught you the Founding Fathers are good, government is good, wealth is good, the Police are good. They furthered your brainwashing by controlling what you see and hear on an even more massive scale via TV and print media. They have imprinted it upon your minds engram through movies which repeatedly show cops good, people bad. Think about it. When was the last time you remember watching TV or a video and their wasn't some kind of "authority" figure as the good guy? This has been slowly and meticulously through time indoctrinated into you and your families mindsets through time and the better the technology, the easier it is to indoctrinate you.

Please wake up people and take a long hard look in the mirror and think about how you have been used by your government and those who claim authority over you by forced compliance if necessary. Think about it. Your CONgress has voted itself largesse and given itself the best healthcare and job benefits money, YOUR MONEY, can buy! Further, those public servants known as Police that used to be called "Peace Officers" are now called "Law Enforcement Officers" and have been routinely getting away with murder of the citizenry in court decision after court decision. That's because they have more rights than you do. When a public servant has more rights than the people who pay his wages you have a real problem!

Remember votes do not give people authority, only your own stupidity does! You ARE NOT free. They just convinced you that you are and you accept it. Just like you accepted their pledge of allegiance and everything else the Democratic and Republican parties bring you!








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oicu812

"Trust, but Verify"
muslims hate democracies..they put human law above their warped view of whats his names laws...
 

Iconoclasm

Council Member
A democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding whats gonna be for dinner! This government was supposedly created a republic, and to that I give you....Union of Soviet Socialists Republic, the Republic of China, Republic of North Korea, etc., etc. We've all been hoodwinked and the quicker you figure it out the better off you'll be. Indoctrination runs deep Kimosabe!
 

fairsheet

Senator
A democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding whats gonna be for dinner! This government was supposedly created a republic, and to that I give you....Union of Soviet Socialists Republic, the Republic of China, Republic of North Korea, etc., etc. We've all been hoodwinked and the quicker you figure it out the better off you'll be. Indoctrination runs deep Kimosabe!

If you conspiracy theorists could ever get all yourselves on the same page, we'd REALLY have something to cry about!
 

Iconoclasm

Council Member
If you conspiracy theorists could ever get all yourselves on the same page, we'd REALLY have something to cry about!
Really? You're gonna resort to labeling and name calling rather than dispute my claims? Those are both signs that you have no valid argument with which to discredit me. You gonna call me an anti-Semite too?
 

EatTheRich

President
Being a citizen gives me defined rights and privileges that noncitizens do not have. Democracy of course involves coercion, which is inherent in the nature of class society. But the only alternative to democracy is minority rule.
 
Saw this quote by Bertrand Russell, seems quite appropriate


''In America everybody is of the opinion that he has no social superiors, since all men are equal, but he does not admit that he has no social inferiors, for, from the time of Jefferson onward, the doctrine that all men are equal applies only upwards, not downwards.''
 

Iconoclasm

Council Member
Being a citizen gives me defined rights and privileges that noncitizens do not have. Democracy of course involves coercion, which is inherent in the nature of class society. But the only alternative to democracy is minority rule.
Being a citizen gives me defined rights and privileges that noncitizens do not have. Democracy of course involves coercion, which is inherent in the nature of class society. But the only alternative to democracy is minority rule.
Defined right's, huh? Who had the authority to determine what those defined rights should be? If I was not born with any special authority to command you or vote you out of your "undefined" natural law rights and you were not born with any special authority to command me or vote me out of my rights, nor was any other human being on this planet, then I ask you, how do two opr more combine their NON-EXISTENT authority to vote another out of their rights, beyond the law of trespass? Please respond to my question?
 

Iconoclasm

Council Member
The history you were taught in the public indoctrination clinics was most definitely shined and polished and far from the truth! If it hadn't have been for Thomas Paine, George Washington would have become the first King of artificial entity United States!
 

Iconoclasm

Council Member
This guy is pretty close but he needs to realize that one cannot be born under the auspices of an artificial entity. One can only be brainwashed or indoctrinated to believe they can. Citizenship equals jurisdiction. When you challenge the jurisdiction, the court must prove that you signed up for club America, knowingly, willingly , and intelligently being informed of all of your options. I personally did none of the above, nor was I given any other options besides the ones I was fraudulently induced by them to believe through their indoctrination clinics! I cannot even denounce my citizenship because how can one denounce that which they never applied for?
 
The young man in the video has not, as he admits, perfected his argument, so is still in the process of grasping the concept and is still learning, which is why I like him, for most of us are in that process, to differing degrees.

I am English btw not American but the same basic questions over jurisdiction apply everywhere.

We are not born under an artificial entity - he says that - the name we are given as a 'live birth' and the name only is split into two jurisdictions later, not at birth - we ourselves as a 'live birth' are still free, we just don't know it - Is it not a matter of balance and the Trustees (Gov) not dipping into the pot rather than a question of us all opting out?

All these questions of democracy and especially your infernal 2nd amendment rights are in a sense a diversion from the basic questions of jurisdiction -

I am not really upon it all though and must learn a lot more because it is THE important question -
 

Iconoclasm

Council Member
The young man in the video has not, as he admits, perfected his argument, so is still in the process of grasping the concept and is still learning, which is why I like him, for most of us are in that process, to differing degrees.

I am English btw not American but the same basic questions over jurisdiction apply everywhere.

We are not born under an artificial entity - he says that - the name we are given as a 'live birth' and the name only is split into two jurisdictions later, not at birth - we ourselves as a 'live birth' are still free, we just don't know it - Is it not a matter of balance and the Trustees (Gov) not dipping into the pot rather than a question of us all opting out?

All these questions of democracy and especially your infernal 2nd amendment rights are in a sense a diversion from the basic questions of jurisdiction -

I am not really upon it all though and must learn a lot more because it is THE important question -
In this land area of this continent, the so called Founding Fathers had every right to create a government, but they had no right to expect us all to opt in or to force us to do so. Their Constitution has a 13th Amendment which declares "there will be no involuntary servitude." I then would declare that to the court and demand that the prosecutor show the court where I signed up?
 
In this land area of this continent, the so called Founding Fathers had every right to create a government, but they had no right to expect us all to opt in or to force us to do so. Their Constitution has a 13th Amendment which declares "there will be no involuntary servitude." I then would declare that to the court and demand that the prosecutor show the court where I signed up?

I understand that - it is the same here and in most countries if not all countries, dunno. Some have a bigger fight on their hands than others.

Absolutely - but there are pros to Gov, it is not all bad. We need to grasp, understand when, where and how our 'Trust Fund' was set up to be able to grasp every aspect from beginning to end, but when we do realize that they have no jurisdiction over certain aspects of our life and or have overstepped the mark or indeed have embezzled from our fund, to simply say 'we the people do not want any more Government', would be rather rash, don't you think? For there would be a ridiculous chaos.

OK as an individual one has that choice - one may choose to be without a pension a country and ect ect ect -

But as a peoples it is surly a matter of bringing Gov back into balance -
 
One isnt free to renounce said citizenship and relocate to a preferred alternate?
One is free to renounce ones citizenship - but if one wants to do that, it is advisable that one is in another country already when one does - I know of one just ex-US citizen who resides in Brussels - he is stateless, through choice he renounced his US citizenship. He is not alone -
 
In this land area of this continent, the so called Founding Fathers had every right to create a government, but they had no right to expect us all to opt in or to force us to do so. Their Constitution has a 13th Amendment which declares "there will be no involuntary servitude." I then would declare that to the court and demand that the prosecutor show the court where I signed up?
Another one trying to grasp all aspects of the concept ---- looks as though there are some interesting links in this blog ------------ yup it is 'just a blog'

https://realitybloger.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/killing-your-strawman-the-path-to-freedom/
 

Iconoclasm

Council Member
Another one trying to grasp all aspects of the concept ---- looks as though there are some interesting links in this blog ------------ yup it is 'just a blog'

https://realitybloger.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/killing-your-strawman-the-path-to-freedom/
How do you renounce something you did not apply for? It is a moot point. And all that trust stuff makes very little sense to me and muddies the water. You do not tell them you renounce your citizenship when asked, and they will ask, you simply ask them "how can I renounce that which I never applied for?" You then demand that the court instruct the prosecutor to show the court where you signed up? When he pulls out your drivers license and asks if it is yours, you again ask a question with a question and say "is that in the possession of the state?" "we all know the state is expert in forging documents." Then deny it is yours. If they press the issue you can then say that you have been fraudulently induced all of your life!
 
How do you renounce something you did not apply for? It is a moot point. And all that trust stuff makes very little sense to me and muddies the water. You do not tell them you renounce your citizenship when asked, and they will ask, you simply ask them "how can I renounce that which I never applied for?" You then demand that the court instruct the prosecutor to show the court where you signed up? When he pulls out your drivers license and asks if it is yours, you again ask a question with a question and say "is that in the possession of the state?" "we all know the state is expert in forging documents." Then deny it is yours. If they press the issue you can then say that you have been fraudulently induced all of your life!

Nay -------------- you need to do some more research. Of course you can renounce your citizenship on exactly the grounds you say - they sent your guardians your 'names' papers of citizen ship - when you are of age, of course you can renounce that which your gardians' took on your behalf ------------- as for your driving licence, it is prevalent to Government so if and when you renounce all the 'privledges' of your 'citizen name' by renouncing 'its' citizenship you loose all things pertaining to citizenship - licences and medicare and pensions and ect -

So when asked you only have to say that it no longer applies after I have renounced my citizenship ------ it only applies when you are a citizen, not when you are not. Whilst you are a citizen the licence is valid - after you renounce citizenship it is no longer valid but -------- can you drive still with no citizenship and thus no valid licence? Another question and I think you can but you will have to dig for the answer -

You do need to do some more research, as do I, as the blogger I posted just now says - it is at least a years worth of solid research. Not peoples words but law vs legality and ect -
 
How do you renounce something you did not apply for? It is a moot point. And all that trust stuff makes very little sense to me and muddies the water. You do not tell them you renounce your citizenship when asked, and they will ask, you simply ask them "how can I renounce that which I never applied for?" You then demand that the court instruct the prosecutor to show the court where you signed up? When he pulls out your drivers license and asks if it is yours, you again ask a question with a question and say "is that in the possession of the state?" "we all know the state is expert in forging documents." Then deny it is yours. If they press the issue you can then say that you have been fraudulently induced all of your life!

Citizen ship works exactly the same as a trust fund - with a split Jurisdiction, as you say. Watch the video again - If I find a better one I'll post it.
 
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