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Why isn't Lt. Col. Vindman being charged with treason...

Bugsy McGurk

President
I'm not the one lying Bugs. You are.

Prove you weren't lying when you said Vindam exposed Trump's "crimes" .

Go ahead and list the crimes by statute. LOL! Please! Go ahead.

Do it or stfu.
Crikey. Fox Noise hasn’t even told you what crimes Trump committed?

Start with these: bribery, extortion, seeking a foreign nation’s help in an election, and (yet more) obstruction of justice when telling his people to ignore congressional subpoenas.

So your childish accusation of lying resulted from your ignorance of Trump’s crimes?
 
Crikey. Fox Noise hasn’t even told you what crimes Trump committed?

Start with these: bribery, extortion, seeking a foreign nation’s help in an election, and (yet more) obstruction of justice when telling his people to ignore congressional subpoenas.

So your childish accusation of lying resulted from your ignorance of Trump’s crimes?
You lied and claimed Vindman exposed Trump's "crimes".

For the second time what were those? List for us the "crimes" and the statutes that Trump violated? I don't need or want your demented opinion. I want facts.

Or you know.....stfu.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
You lied and claimed Vindman exposed Trump's crimes.

For the second time what were those? List for us the crimes and the statutes that Trump violated? I don't need or want your demented opinion. I want facts.

Or you know.....stfu.
I just answered your question. It’s idiotic to ignore my answer and ask the same question.

Try not to be so idiotic.
 
I just answered your question. It’s idiotic to ignore my answer and ask the same question.

Try not to be so idiotic.
You haven't answered shit.

Know why? Because you can't.

All you can do is lie. You can't list any crimes or the legal statutes.

You just got exposed AGAIN!
 

Nutty Cortez

Dummy (D) NY
If there were crimes, no need for any hearings or anything else. Just Boom, off to the impeachment.

OH wait. There weren't crimes.

Just opinions of something that isn't a crime in the first place.

My Butthurt Base really is desperate
 

Nutty Cortez

Dummy (D) NY
no, it is clearly not....good god. what do you think even trump picked diplomats were texting about when the military aid was frozen by ass-hole trump- that it would undermine US efforts to help Ukraine defend itself from Russia!!! THAT WAS OUR ACCEPTED POLICY...ARE YOU JUST HORRIBLY MISINFORMED OR WHAT?

GOP senator says diplomat told him Trump was withholding ...

https://www.nbcnews.com › politics › trump-impeachment-inquiry › gop-s...

Oct 4, 2019 - Ron Johnson said Trump assured him there was no quid pro quo, but the ... Trump has that confidence, then he'll release the military spending,” ... Johnson told reporters last month that he'd asked Trump to release the aid for ...
Ron Johnson says Trump blocked him from assuring Ukraine ...

https://www.usatoday.com › story › news › politics › 2019/10/04 › ron-jo...

Oct 4, 2019 - Ron Johnson was blocked by President Donald Trump from telling ... Senator says he was blocked by Trump from telling Ukraine foreign aid was coming ... He said he asked Trump about it and the president denied it.

Stalled Ukraine military aid concerned members of Congress ...

https://www.cnn.com › 2019/09/30 › politics › ukraine-military-aid-congress

Sep 30, 2019 - Lawmakers on Capitol Hill couldn't figure out over this past summer why nearly $400 million in aid they'd voted to go to Ukraine still wasn't in ...
Ukraine aid delay sparked bipartisan scramble to keep ...

https://www.latimes.com › story › trump-ukraine-aid-congress-impeachment

Oct 14, 2019 - The scramble to save the Ukraine aid underscores how the ... Congress approved the $250 million in military aid and an additional $141 million ...
Here's what you need to know about the US aid package to ...

https://www.defensenews.com › congress › 2019/09/25 › what-you-need-t...

Sep 25, 2019 - Ukraine military aid extension passes US House after White House ... and Congress approved an assistance package of 210 missiles and 37 ...

How U.S. military aid became a lifeline for Ukraine - POLITICO

https://www.politico.com › news › ukraine-united-states-military-aid-013792

Sep 30, 2019 - The U.S. provided about $1.5 billion in military aid to Kiev between 2014 ... majority of the funds, approved with bipartisan support in Congress, ...

Hey !! It's a PruneJuiceJim Google search

Hey folks everything on the internet is true LOL

By the way- you are posting the exact same story- just repeated by different outlets.

(all which were deemed nothingburgers after the transcript was released)

It's over Jimbo
 

voyager

bon vivant
And you wonder why the whistleblower says no way to being named. If the right is going to turn everyone into a traitor then fuk'm.

dEep sTAtE = for those who don't have a clue and need a bogeyman.
 
D

Deleted member 21794

Guest
And you wonder why the whistleblower says no way to being named. If the right is going to turn everyone into a traitor then fuk'm.

dEep sTAtE = for those who don't have a clue and need a bogeyman.
Everyone already knows his name. Eric Ciamerella (sp?) will either need to man up and explain his DNC hackery or he should face criminal prosecution for sedition. He's no whistleblower. He's a DNC activist.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Nah, US patriots are truly thankful to the courageous actions of all the witnesses who have exposed Trump’s crimes. You people have been so brainwashed you consider their patriotism to be treason.
So name the whistleblower ___________________
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
And a decorated veteran. Cons like guys like Daddy's little orange Pumpkin who got a doctor to lie and say he had bone spurs. I'm wondering, is that why he rides in his golf cart on the green while others walk....or is it because he eats too many cheese "berders" and can't carry all that bulk around? :)
PJ cons hate war heroes.
What was Slicks Rank and do you really need pictures of Barry O riding in golf carts_________really?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Note the following additional excerpt from Vindman’s prepared statement: “….I was worried about the implications for the US government’s support of Ukraine…. I realized that if Ukraine pursued an investigation into the Bidens and Burisma, it would likely be interpreted as a partisan play which would undoubtedly result in Ukraine losing the bipartisan support it has thus far maintained.”

Vindman’s concern is all about Ukraine without any explanation of why the United States would benefit from bilking the taxpayer to support a foreign deadbeat one more time. One wonders if Vindman was able to compose his statement without a snicker or two intruding. He does eventually go on to cover the always essential national security angle, claiming that “Since 2008, Russia has manifested an overtly aggressive foreign policy, leveraging military power and employing hybrid warfare to achieve its objectives of regional hegemony and global influence. Absent a deterrent to dissuade Russia from such aggression, there is an increased risk of further confrontations with the West. In this situation, a strong and independent Ukraine is critical to US national security interests because Ukraine is a frontline state and a bulwark against Russian aggression.”

The combined visions of Russia as an aggressive, expansionistic power coupled with the brave Ukrainians serving as a bastion of freedom is so absurd that it is hardly worth countering. Russia’s economy is about the size of Italy’s or Spain’s limiting its imperial ambitions, if they actually exist. Its alleged transgressions against Georgia and Ukraine were both provoked by the United States meddling in Eastern Europe, something that it had pledged not to do after the Soviet Union collapsed. Ukraine is less an important American ally than a welfare case, and no one knows that better than Vindman, but he is really speaking to his masters in the US Establishment when he repeats the conventional arguments.

It hardly seems possible, but Vindman then goes on to dig himself into a still deeper hole through his statement’s praise of the train wreck that is Ukraine. He writes “In spite of being under assault from Russia for more than five years, Ukraine has taken major steps towards integrating with the West. The US government policy community’s view is that the election of President Volodymyr Zelensky and the promise of reforms to eliminate corruption will lock in Ukraine’s Western-leaning trajectory, and allow Ukraine to realize its dream of a vibrant democracy and economic prosperity. The United States and Ukraine are and must remain strategic partners, working together to realize the shared vision of a stable, prosperous, and democratic Ukraine that is integrated into the Euro-Atlantic community.”

Alexander Vindman does not say or write that the incorporation of Ukraine into NATO is his actual objective, but his comments about “integrating with the West” and the “Euro-Atlantic community” clearly imply just that. The expansion of NATO up to Russia’s borders by the rascally Bill Clinton constituted one of the truly most momentous lost foreign policy opportunities of the twentieth century. The addition of Ukraine and Georgia to the alliance would magnify that error as both are vital national security interests for Moscow given their history and geography. Vindman should be regarded as a manifestation of the Deep State thinking that has brought so much grief to the United States over the past twenty years. Seen in that light, his testimony, wrapped in an air of sanctimoniousness and a uniform, should be regarded as little more than the conventional thinking that has produced foreign policy failure after failure.


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/deep-state-national-security-council-colonel-vindman-expert-agenda

This guy was clearly undermining POTUS to advance Ukraine's interests - that's treason, or at least was before Trump was elected...
So anyone who criticizes the president is guilty of treason....
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
What was Slicks Rank and do you really need pictures of Barry O riding in golf carts_________really?
1. Trump criticized Obama...too much golf...laughable.
2. neither Obama and Clinton paid a doctor to avoid serving.
 

EatTheRich

President
so you think it is treason to be for helping Ukraine defend itself from putin and russia...even though that has been US policy by both republican and democratic presidents and republican and democratic majorities of Congress for at least 2 decades?

yeah, i guess it is treason if you are a goddamn Russian or russian loving pig ass American. is that what you are admitting?

what kind of a crazy ass post did you just post? you are for Russia and against Ukraine?
He makes a point. If the elected president doesn’t make foreign policy for his administration, who does?
 
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Deleted member 21794

Guest
No, but anyone who seeks to remove a President because of his policy vis a vis a foreign country is.
I think what this comes down to is that the lifelong State Department people think they run foreign policy. They don't. As you know, the president has broad powers in this regard, as he does with immigration.

This Ukrainian-American Vindman guy just doesn't like Trump's foreign policy. Him hearing this non-event is simply a way of lashing out and trying to derail what he thinks our foreign policy should be. It doesn't matter what he or the other America-hating goons at the State Department think. Donald Trump is president. He gets to decide.

So yes, there is a strong case to be made Vindman should be prosecuted for treason. Or perhaps sedition, given his efforts to oust Trump are a coordinated effort by partisan hacks.
 
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