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Why the Heathen Democrats Will Never Win

FakeName

Governor
That's not an answer - it's an equivocation. I didn't ask what the US economy is - I asked if you agree with Trump that the US will never become a socialist economy. Or are you suggesting there is no such thing?
Holy cow guy, pay attention. The question sets up a false choice between capitalism and socialism. It demonstrates a rank ignorance of macro economics.

Like all succesful economies the US is niether capitalist nor socialist, it is both, a "mixed economy".

You said " you can't be a little bit socialist."

Of course you can.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Holy cow guy, pay attention. The question sets up a false choice between capitalism and socialism. It demonstrates a rank ignorance of macro economics.

Like all succesful economies the US is niether capitalist nor socialist, it is both, a "mixed economy".

You said " you can't be a little bit socialist."

Of course you can.
Is the US economy getting more socialist over time, or less socialist over time?
 

EatTheRich

President
Is the US economy getting more socialist over time, or less socialist over time?
More, as the entire world becomes more socialist in order to free up productive potential and allow the economy to continue to survive. But the gradual accumulation of “socialist” elements in the so-called mixed economy are only symptoms of the international class struggle that will eventually result in a social revolution that makes a qualitative break in the fundamental nature of the economy and identity of the ruling class.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
More, as the entire world becomes more socialist in order to free up productive potential and allow the economy to continue to survive. But the gradual accumulation of “socialist” elements in the so-called mixed economy are only symptoms of the international class struggle that will eventually result in a social revolution that makes a qualitative break in the fundamental nature of the economy and identity of the ruling class.
Yes, more. Always more. Every day, every week, every month and every year, the left constantly makes the economy more socialist. Their plan is to shrink capitalism until it is small enough that they can drown it in a bathtub.
 

FakeName

Governor
Just trying to unpack your reply. Is there a direction to these "ebbs and flows" or is the level of socialism in our economy a "random walk?"
As for the rest of your post, how silly.
Of course it is not random it is very deliberate. FDR, for example, very deliberately introduced socialism in the form of social security and public works programs in an effort to save capitalism.
 

EatTheRich

President
Yes, more. Always more. Every day, every week, every month and every year, the left constantly makes the economy more socialist. Their plan is to shrink capitalism until it is small enough that they can drown it in a bathtub.
You seem to think everyone on the left is working together. On the contrary, there is a working-class left that is deliberately building socialism; a bourgeois left that cedes ground to the working-class left as a tactical means of blunting the class struggle; and a petty-bourgeois left that sees political opportunity in posturing as more radical than the bourgeois left (while often leading the workers down reactionary blind alleys) because they think they will always be able to call a halt before the tide of socialism engulfs their own property.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
You seem to think everyone on the left is working together. On the contrary, there is a working-class left that is deliberately building socialism; a bourgeois left that cedes ground to the working-class left as a tactical means of blunting the class struggle; and a petty-bourgeois left that sees political opportunity in posturing as more radical than the bourgeois left (while often leading the workers down reactionary blind alleys) because they think they will always be able to call a halt before the tide of socialism engulfs their own property.
Commies, fellow travelers and useful idiots. How does that in any way refute what I said?
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
As for the rest of your post, how silly.
Of course it is not random it is very deliberate. FDR, for example, very deliberately introduced socialism in the form of social security and public works programs in an effort to save capitalism.
Ah, the "we must destroy the village in order to save it" strategy. How'd that work out for us in Vietnam?
 

FakeName

Governor
Ah, the "we must destroy the village in order to save it" strategy. How'd that work out for us in Vietnam?
No not at all the "we must destroy the village in order to save it strategy."

No offense, but part of being capable of refuting a point is actually understanding the point you are trying to refute.

You should review. Think. And then try again.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
No not at all the "we must destroy the village in order to save it strategy."

No offense, but part of being capable of refuting a point is actually understanding the point you are trying to refute.

You should review. Think. And then try again.
Perhaps it would help if you understood what my point, you know, actually was. Your suggestion that we needed to implement socialist policies in order to "save capitalism" is the logical equivalent of the DOD suggesting we needed to napalm vietnam villages in order to "save them" from the commies. Socialism is to capitalism as napalm is to the village. Capitalism needs socialism the way villages need napalm. Napalm "fixes" villages the way socialism fixes capitalism. It's the absurdity of the two claim(s) that I am comparing…you starting to get my point yet?
 
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