Why the Heathen Democrats Will Never Win

[Raoul_Luke]

It suggests that building socialism is a plan for only some on the left and a consequence of capitalism for the rest.

Yet the others blissfully go along with the plan…again, did you have a point?

 

[Jen]

Perhaps it would help if you understood what my point, you know, actually was. Your suggestion that we needed to implement socialist policies in order to "save capitalism" is the logical equivalent of the DOD suggesting we needed to napalm vietnam villages in order to "save them" from the commies. Socialism is to capitalism as napalm is to the village. Capitalism needs socialism the way villages need napalm. Napalm "fixes" villages the way socialism fixes capitalism. It's the absurdity of the two claim(s) that I am comparing…you starting to get my point yet?

Don't count on him getting your point.
Won't happen.

 

[FakeName]

Perhaps it would help if you understood what my point, you know, actually was. Your suggestion that we needed to implement socialist policies in order to "save capitalism" is the logical equivalent of the DOD suggesting we needed to napalm vietnam villages in order to "save them" from the commies. Socialism is to capitalism as napalm is to the village. Capitalism needs socialism the way villages need napalm. Napalm "fixes" villages the way socialism fixes capitalism. It's the absurdity of the two claim(s) that I am comparing…you starting to get my point yet?

Nope. It is actually nothing like that.

Can you name a capitalist country?

 

[Raoul_Luke]

Nope. It is actually nothing like that.

Can you name a capitalist country?

Nope - and thanks for making my point.

 

[FakeName]

Nope - and thanks for making my point.

You forgot what your point was a week ago.

Total fail.

Try to be a little more serious next time.

THINK, for Christ's sake!

 

[FakeName]

Nope - and thanks for making my point.

Do you even know why you can't name a capitalist country?

Just curious.

 

[Dawg]

Dem/Libs working hard on how to piss on the Constitution

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/new-colorado-law-will-give-states-electoral-college-votes-to-national-popular-vote-winner/ar-BBURzWY?ocid=spartandhp

and ensuring America is under a Liberal Dictatorship

 

[RickWA]

Candace Owens is the Left's worst nightmare.

God bless you, Jack - on this trip actually HELPING people in need while so many of us bite ankles.

While I know kudos is not what you seek, thank you. This is the good stuff.

 

[FakeName]

Dem/Libs working hard on how to piss on the Constitution

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/new-colorado-law-will-give-states-electoral-college-votes-to-national-popular-vote-winner/ar-BBURzWY?ocid=spartandhp

and ensuring America is under a Liberal Dictatorship

A liberal dictatorship?

Come on Dawg, take a fricken civics class!

 

[EatTheRich]

Perhaps it would help if you understood what my point, you know, actually was. Your suggestion that we needed to implement socialist policies in order to "save capitalism" is the logical equivalent of the DOD suggesting we needed to napalm vietnam villages in order to "save them" from the commies. Socialism is to capitalism as napalm is to the village. Capitalism needs socialism the way villages need napalm. Napalm "fixes" villages the way socialism fixes capitalism. It's the absurdity of the two claim(s) that I am comparing…you starting to get my point yet?

The New Deal policies were not “socialist policies.” They were a maneuver to neuter the socialist movement.

 

[EatTheRich]

Yet the others blissfully go along with the plan…again, did you have a point?

Sometimes. Sometimes they get the better of the communists in the struggle over the trajectory of capitalism, as when Roosevelt and Stalin lined up to divert the course away from socialism.

 

[EatTheRich]

Dem/Libs working hard on how to piss on the Constitution

Says the guy who keeps posting that Islam must be banned.

 

[EatTheRich]

Dem/Libs working hard on how to piss on the Constitution

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/new-colorado-law-will-give-states-electoral-college-votes-to-national-popular-vote-winner/ar-BBURzWY?ocid=spartandhp

and ensuring America is under a Liberal Dictatorship

The Constitution gives states the right to determine how their electoral votes are allotted.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

Sometimes. Sometimes they get the better of the communists in the struggle over the trajectory of capitalism, as when Roosevelt and Stalin lined up to divert the course away from socialism.

Yeah, if I was a diehard commie, that's what I'd want people to believe alright...

 

[Raoul_Luke]

The New Deal policies were not “socialist policies.” They were a maneuver to neuter the socialist movement.

They sure look socialist to those of us who aren't, well, socialists...

 

[Raoul_Luke]

Do you even know why you can't name a capitalist country?

Just curious.

If I could, wouldn't it suggest "capitalist" countries can in fact adopt some level of socialist policies without abandoning capitalism? Just curious.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

You forgot what your point was a week ago.

Total fail.

Try to be a little more serious next time.

THINK, for Christ's sake!

Lets recap:

I said:

You can't be a "little bit" pregnant any more than you can be a "little bit" socialist.

Now you at least appear to be agreeing with me here that there are no remaining "capitalist" countries. Simple logic suggests if they were once "capitalist," and are now something else as a result of adopting "some" socialist policies. What that "something else" is, is in a state of transition between capitalism and socialism. Which, of course, was precisely my point.

I may not always be "serious" but I don't forget my point and this wasn't a "total fail" - at least not by me.

 

[FakeName]

If I could, wouldn't it suggest "capitalist" countries can in fact adopt some level of socialist policies without abandoning capitalism? Just curious.

Oh my God, that is the whole Fricken point, there are no successful capitalist economies. All of the successful economies in the world are by definition "Mixed Economies", they combine market economics with socialism. To put it your way they have not "abandoned "capitalism", nor have they "abandoned" socialism, they combined the two.

Are you finally understanding?

 

[FakeName]

Lets recap:

I said:

You can't be a "little bit" pregnant any more than you can be a "little bit" socialist.

Now you at least appear to be agreeing with me here that there are no remaining "capitalist" countries. Simple logic suggests if they were once "capitalist," and are now something else as a result of adopting "some" socialist policies. What that "something else" is, is in a state of transition between capitalism and socialism. Which, of course, was precisely my point.

I may not always be "serious" but I don't forget my point and this wasn't a "total fail" - at least not by me.

Yes you can be "a little socialist". Every successful economy in the world is a little socialist and a little capitalist.

Fricken duh!

 

[Raoul_Luke]

Oh my God, that is the whole Fricken point, there are no successful capitalist economies. All of the successful economies in the world are by definition "Mixed Economies", they combine market economics with socialism. To put it your way they have not "abandoned "capitalism", nor have they "abandoned" socialism, they combined the two.

Are you finally understanding?

Which came first, the capitalism or the socialism? Once you "combine the two" it is no longer a capitalist economy - it has entered the transition phase to a socialist economy (as evidenced by the never ending addition of socialist policies). And it can not go back to being a capitalist economy until full socialism (communism) is achieved, and the subsequent collapse creates the opportunity to reset and start over (see Soviet Union, China, Vietnam, et al). Are you finally understanding?