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Why Trump must be impeached AND removed

Discussion in 'Latest Political News and Current Events' started by JuliefromOhio, Nov 10, 2019 at 2:46 PM.

  1. JuliefromOhio

    JuliefromOhio Senator Supporting Member

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    Conservative writer Andrew Sullivan makes the case for impeachment and removal.

    This is not just an impeachment. It’s the endgame for Trump’s relentless assault on the institutions, norms, and practices of America’s liberal democracy for the past three years. It’s also a deeper reckoning. It’s about whether the legitimacy of our entire system can last much longer without this man being removed from office.

    If the Senate exonerates Trump, it will not just enable the most lawless president in our history to even greater abuses. It will deepen the regime cleavage even further. It will cast into doubt the fairness of the upcoming election. It will foment the conspiracy theory that our current laws and institutions are manifestations of a “deep state” engineering a “coup.” It will prove that a president can indeed abuse his power for his personal advantage without consequence; and it will set a precedent that fundamentally changes the American system from a liberal democracy to a form of elected monarchy, above the other two branches of government.

    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/11/andrew-sullivan-this-is-no-ordinary-impeachment.html?


    I'll be sending this to Sen Portman (R-OH). He and his Republican colleagues need a reminder of the basics of our Constitution and what they've sworn to uphold and protect. And it doesn't include a president who's been "self-impeaching" since the day he took office.
     
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  2. The Thinker

    The Thinker Over The Top Abuser

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    He's a Brit. Who cares what he thinks? Address your whining to Nazi and Meth Eyes. They're the ones playing games with you at your expense.
     
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  3. Addy

    Addy Democrat Chick

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    That is such a great read... it's too bad many of Trump's cult followers won't read it and can't see Trump for what he really is.
    I feel sad for all of us if Trump is not impeached. The old TDS theme has nothing to do with it. This is about saving our great country and all that it stands for... removing Trump is very necessary to maintain our democracy.
    no class.
     
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  4. voyager

    voyager bon vivant

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    At this point I see no way Trump will be removed. The repubicans are scared of Trump and will be his lemmings.
     
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  5. Addy

    Addy Democrat Chick

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    It's their duty to uphold their oath to our country, being scared of the fall out should be the last thing on their minds.
    It's a wait and see what happens scenario... I remain optimistic. :)
     
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  6. Addy

    Addy Democrat Chick

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    Trump has some real characters on his defense team... :rolleyes:

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  7. JuliefromOhio

    JuliefromOhio Senator Supporting Member

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    Trump will be impeached in the House.
    I'm feeling more optimistic that Senate Republicans know it's time for them to dump
    Trump and convict him. They don't need to risk his winning a second term and continuing to torment the shit out of them. They're selfish....which is why I don't expect them to do good by the country. They can run someone else in 2020.
     
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  8. JuliefromOhio

    JuliefromOhio Senator Supporting Member

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    That's the Freedom Caucus members....the group Mick Mulvaney founded.
    Speaker Boehner quit congress over these idiots so of course, they're with Trump.
     
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  9. JuliefromOhio

    JuliefromOhio Senator Supporting Member

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    At some point, the used and abused strike back.
     
  10. Boltlady

    Boltlady Mayor

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    Tomorrow being Veteran's Day be sure to honor all of those who through the years have made horrific sacrifices to maintain the sovereignty of our country. Then think about how the Dem proposals are aimed at eliminating that sovereignty.

    Open borders
    Crashing our economy with free everything that we'll ultimately have to pay for
    Lowering the levels of learning in our schools to the point where we're now trailing many
    other countries' student abilities
    Eliminating our history because we weren't always perfect along the way
    Considering the constant corruption of people in power to be the approved means of governing
    BTW my son mentioned something he had seen on Facebook that I thought was a really great idea. If all of those people who want to see the Prez' tax returns would require the tax returns of all of those who became millionaires while in gov't jobs instead, they might see how foolish they're being.

    Trump is exactly what this country has needed for a long time. I spent the majority of my life as a Dem until I actually started having an open mind along with a lot of research as to what they've turned into. FTR I don't much like the Republicans either as a party since they have as many swamp creatures as the Dems but for the time being it's the safest for our country.

    The swamp is not liking it's cleansing process but it needs to be done. Trump needs to be able to continue the process.
     
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  11. worldlymrb

    worldlymrb America: Love it or Leave it!

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    Because Dems can’t beat him at the ballot box.
     
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  12. JuliefromOhio

    JuliefromOhio Senator Supporting Member

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    I hear you.
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  13. Jen

    Jen meh

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    Real reason Trump must be removed:
    Because Democrats cannot allow anyone who is not a Democrat to be POTUS. Democrats are adamantly fascist about their no other way but their way thing.
     
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  14. Addy

    Addy Democrat Chick

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    I had never taken you to be a believer in the sham conspiracy theories put forth by Trump's repetitious lies, directed toward his cult followers, it is part of his M.O.
    It's apparent you have bought into his phony narrative and his deliberate smears of all our govt institutions.
    Trump's strategy is dangerous... he only cares about winning, the constitution means nothing to him. Trump is on record as saying he could do anything he wanted to do.
     
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  15. Bronwyn

    Bronwyn Unapoligetically Republican

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    LOL! Trump is your President and will be until 2024. Read that to yourself, say it out loud, scream, beat your chest, pull out your chest hairs, foam at the mouth, whatever. It's not going to change.
     
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    It will be interesting to see what comes out with the Horowitz report (which should be out soon) and then even more so when Durham comes out with his. Perhaps they will show that some high ranking members of the gov't institutions did engage in conspiracies to try to keep Trump from being elected and then trying to remove him from the very day he was inaugurated. Those conspiracies have not been theories.

    Remember Trump didn't need the job.
     
  17. Colorforms

    Colorforms Senator

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    I'm still waiting for someone to come up with a verifiable crime. So far it's just a bunch of fascists making accusations.
     
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  18. Constitutional Sheepdog

    Constitutional Sheepdog ][][][%er!!!!!!!

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    There is no legal reason to remove President Trump
     
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  19. Constitutional Sheepdog

    Constitutional Sheepdog ][][][%er!!!!!!!

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    According to Nikki Haley, it happened she personally witnessed it
     
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    Constitutional Sheepdog ][][][%er!!!!!!!

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    The Senate has no legal standing to remove him there is no crime
     

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