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Discussion in 'Latest Political News and Current Events' started by Constitutional Sheepdog, Oct 9, 2016.

  1. Boca

    Boca Governor

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    One other thing of interest from the memoires

    Sad to say my ggg was possibly a slave owner. Not a plantation owner. But had a servant, slave or paid I don't know, but his name was Isaac who "would chase [the cannon balls] that bounced on the beach and roll a short distance and get bowled over. Finally he recovered one, still warm, and came back lugging it in both arms, exclaimimg, 'Look Marse Ben, look what dem dam-Yankees t'row at we.

    I'm planning a trip this spring or summer to Charleston to visit my ggg's home that is on the National Register of Historic Places. I believe it is now a student residence for a nearby college. I'd get a kick out of sharing these papers with whoever is in charge. They are well preserved, not by me but my grandfather who passed away in 1953 and somehow I ended up with them?
     
  2. bdtex

    bdtex Moderator Staff Member

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    Sounds like those papers ended up where they were supposed to and in the right place.
     
  3. Winston

    Winston Do you feel lucky, Punk

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    It is however a topic that the retarded people who voted for Clinton try to avoid.

    Yawn
     
  4. Constitutional Sheepdog

    Constitutional Sheepdog ][][][%er!!!!!!!

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    Of course but bdtex leftist buddies say it is.
     
  5. Winston

    Winston Do you feel lucky, Punk

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    Look *edited*, just because your gg grandfather whipped negroes and fought to keep whipping negroes does not make the Confederate flag not racist. *Edited*
     
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  6. YouCantHandleDaTruth

    YouCantHandleDaTruth Mayor

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    Shocked ... shocked ... that a MAGA Cultist doesn't believe the civil war was over slavery

    SHOCKED !! :rolleyes:
     
  7. YouCantHandleDaTruth

    YouCantHandleDaTruth Mayor

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    Can you quote the parts that you think should be of interest?

    thx in advance
     
  8. Winston

    Winston Do you feel lucky, Punk

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    The Civil war was not fought over slavery, it was fought because the South formed their own currency and was in the process of seceding from the USA. Lincoln said not today, not tomorrow and not ever. As such Lincoln preserved the America that we have today and the slaves were emancipated concurrently
     
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  9. YouCantHandleDaTruth

    YouCantHandleDaTruth Mayor

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    ... and the south did such so they can continue making jelly ?!

    No

    The root motivator was to preserve slavery, we can pretzel logic root cause mostly by eliminating the word slavery from any motivation but that's a waste of time.
     
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  10. bdtex

    bdtex Moderator Staff Member

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    I haven't been to Charleston yet but hope to some day. Got this print museum quality framed and hanging in my bedroom. The Guns Of Autumn by Mort Kunstler. Gen. Lee in Charleston in December 1861.

    https://www.mortkunstler.com/html/store-limited-edition-prints.asp?action=view&ID=233&cat=136

    med_233_2.
     
  11. Winston

    Winston Do you feel lucky, Punk

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    So in your mind after Lincoln was elected, the south seceded, and this had nothing to do with the start of the war. You also seem to believe that the South attacking Fort Sumpter had no meaning...…

    Again Lincoln preserved the Union over the objection of metal imbeciles
     
  12. YouCantHandleDaTruth

    YouCantHandleDaTruth Mayor

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    Of course it did have something to do with the start of the war but that still doesn't change the ... ROOT ... reason why the southern states succeeded in the first place.

    The confederates wanted to preserve slavery America didn't ... there's no way around that.

    Then rich southerners talked a bunch of poor and middle class white men into fighting for their property ... leaving out the "We want to keep our slaves" part.
     
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  13. Winston

    Winston Do you feel lucky, Punk

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    The South certainly had their reasons for seceding and for attacking the North. From the North perspective though the South attacked the North and this attack was replied to justly.
    Thus if the South abandoned slavery then attacked the North the response would have been the same, thus the war was not about slavery, but about the imbeciles in the South, who by the way were clearly not all defeated as the southern democrats both killed Lincoln and formed the KKK after the war
     
  14. Boca

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    I've certainly enjoyed this BD. Brings back memories

    I'm not what you'd call a Civil War Buff but having been born in West Virginia and lived for a time in Virginia, went to college in Georgia, and also lived in Harford County, Maryland about 4 miles from the John Wilkes Booth home, and visited Gettysburg a couple of times, it's hard not to be a history buff.

    So I've enjoyed this...and that's very nice piece of art you have too. When I saw it priced at $550 though I decided I'd rather copy yours and run it through photoshop to be printed and framed when I can get to it.

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    This one I took of the Wilmer McLean home years ago in Appomattox, Virginia where Lee surrendered. It's not an old picture. I just made it look that way. The home has some of the original furnishings. I don't remember which but it gets your attention that General's Lee or Grant may have sat in that chair, or signed the paperwork on that table.

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    Here's a bit of fascinating history about Wilmer McLean.

    He was there when it started and there when it ended.

    First Battle of Bull Run.....at 5:15 a.m., Richardson's brigade fired a few artillery rounds across Mitchell's Ford on the Confederate right, some of which hit Beauregard's headquarters in the Wilmer McLean house as he was eating breakfast, alerting him to the fact that his offensive battle plan had been preempted.

    What were those odds?

    One more thing that comes back to me from 65 years ago. The last battle of the Civil War was actually at Petersburg, Va. My grandfather was born in 1878 in the same house in Charleston that I wrote about earlier. He eventually settled in Petersburg. I was in the 4th grade there. A friend of mine from down the street was named Shelton Smith. We would find civil war artifacts all the time in the surrounding woods. mini balls, rusted canteens and so forth. Often we would find mini balls with initials carved in them. One day he found a few with initials SS. That was a big deal to him. Enough for show and tell in the classroom anyway.

    Fast forward to my college American History class. The professor made it interesting by having borrowed some letters from the Georgia Historical Society. The letters were from a Confedrate soldier in Petersburg back home to his family in Georgia.

    He read two or three of them during each class of our study of the Civil War. In the last one, in the last battle, he described at Petersburg the conditions they were dealing with...food, medicine, morale, and ammuniton. He wrote that they had started carving their initials in their mini balls to hopefully protect from them being stolen by other soldiers.

    Suddenly I remembered the 4th grade show and tell. The soldier's name was Samuel Stevens or Simpson, I don't exactly recall the surname....but the initials were SS.

    When I told the professor the story, he asked me if there was anyway to track down my little friend from years ago Shelton Smith. I didn't know where to start and so I didn't. He probably wouldn't have kept those balls anyway.
     
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