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How to tell time

Days

Commentator
The ability to keep track of time utilizes two functions: the clock and the calendar. In this friendly expose of human thought and development, I hope to cover both functions with a single post! (lucky you)

The Clock:

The passing of time is measured by the sun's rays striking our spinning earth in its elliptical orbit of the sun.

A host of logistics are at play including:
1) the axis that the earth spins on being attacked at changing angles by the sun's rays
2) the speed of the earth's rotation and its deviation by acceleration or deceleration in the earth's spin
3) effects to the same by any wobbles the earth's spin suffers
4) the net effect of the earth spinning into the orbit of the sun

Have you ever stopped to realize that #4 causes the passing of a full day for every year of orbit? If you waste galactic energy in the futile and worthless exercise of attempting to measure the exact duration of a second through nano technology (and our government does that) .... you need to account for that 24 hours of spin that results from the orbit of the sun. Since the earth is spinning into the orbit, you need to create a faster unit of time than would successfully measure the spin of the planet against a fixed location in space.

Thought you knew what a clock was, didn't you? A clock is merely a measuring apparatus that appropriates the passing of time, that used to be measured by the sundial, into units that span the entire breadth of the spin of the earth... a single day. The end user happily reads the numbers or sweeping hands, but the construction of the device needs to accurately measure the time that is actually passing on earth. So telling time is easy if you remain a simpleton and believe the devices sold you and adhere to their guidance... it's a tad more complicated if you do the whole function of telling time on your own.

The Calendar:

The passing of time needs a reference for the keeping track of months and years and decades and centuries and ages. Otherwise, all days are the same, there is no distinction between the days and nights of a spinning globe lost in space. Calendars provide that reference.

A host of logistics are at play including:
1) roughly 13 Lunar cycles per year
2) one oscillation between the tropics per year, creating four seasons
3) 12 zodiacs that provide for 12 ages per oscillation of the sun's vibration in its orbit of the galactic center

The ancients constructed the calendar and did so rather precisely. The ability to shoot an equinox is not as simple as you think. In order to take an accurate measurement of precession, one needs to shoot a line directly up into the stars and then shoot a tangent to the earth directly into the stars at 90 degrees to the first mark. Precession is not the result of the wobble of the earth, the earth has no wobble, it is a perfect gyroscope, it irons out wobbles in short order. Rather. what we are experiencing is the relationship of our star (the sun) to the surrounding stars in the galaxy as the whole pinwheel of stars spin in space. Don't ask me how anyone was able to prove that the galaxy is rotating, it would necessitate reference from other galaxies, a perspective we simply can not access from our tiny planet.

History of the Lunar Calendar (Link)

During antiquity the lunar calendar that best approximated a solar-year calendar was based on a 19-year period, with 7 of these 19 years having 13 months. In all, the period contained 235 months. Still using the lunation value of 291/2 days, this made a total of 6,9321/2 days, while 19 solar years added up to 6,939.7 days, a difference of just one week per period and about five weeks per century.

Even the 19-year period required adjustment, but it became the basis of the calendars of the ancient Chinese, Babylonians, Greeks, and Jews. This same calendar was also used by the Arabs, but Muhammad later forbade shifting from 12 months to 13 months, so that the Islamic calendar now has a lunar year of about 354 days. As a result, the months of the Islamic calendar, as well as the Islamic religious festivals, migrate through all the seasons of the year.


The chronicles of historians have served as our calendar, but they used to be set in the greater calendar of the stars and our journey through the zodiacs. An age consists of 2159 years, and the cycle of 12 ages represent the a single oscillation of the sun in its vibrating path around the center of the galaxy. We exist in a mature galaxy, our location is about half way up one of its arms, and the sun is thought to be 5 billion years old and to have made 20 orbits of the black hole at the center of the galaxy... this is better understood as a rotating pinwheel of stars, and it would seem that the stars are fixed by a radial of gravity that the black hole generates; the entire galaxy may be a function of that gravity extending from the black hole; IOW, galaxies of stars are the expression of black holes over time... the ultimate calendar of our existence.
 

Days

Commentator
crops were used for reference within the calendar year. I was trying to reference the years as a whole within some greater calendar. But yes, crops were the primary calendar of reference used by mankind. I sort of cover it, with that idea of one oscillation between the tropics producing the four seasons, if you break that down further you get the barley harvest and the harvest moon, and the Farmer's almanac, and dates like pentecost, on and on, these are what created all the calendars man has used most... in the recent half dozen millennial past.
 
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Wahbooz

Governor
Well we just left the Strong Sun Moon, and entered the Ripe Berries moon, even though the Sun was pretty damn strong today too.

I still wonder where that 'little ice age' is, and when it's coming.
 

Days

Commentator
Well we just left the Strong Sun Moon, and entered the Ripe Berries moon, even though the Sun was pretty damn strong today too.

I still wonder where that 'little ice age' is, and when it's coming.
you are probably the only person here, that really knows how to tell time. the rest of us don't actually understand what we are doing.
 

Wahbooz

Governor
you are probably the only person here, that really knows how to tell time. the rest of us don't actually understand what we are doing.
It worked well for us, for how many thousands of years?

I had someone tell me, it was June, that we should shut the steam feed to the heating plant, because it was summer. I told him you don't go by the calendar, you go by the weather. Sure enough, I had to turn it back on.
 

Days

Commentator
It worked well for us, for how many thousands of years?

I had someone tell me, it was June, that we should shut the steam feed to the heating plant, because it was summer. I told him you don't go by the calendar, you go by the weather. Sure enough, I had to turn it back on.
that's what I am talking about, a real calendar gives you reference to longevity, if you know where you are in a larger scheme of historical behavior, if you know what has been happening that brought you to this moment, if you understand how the present fits into the bigger picture, then you are keeping time.

I have a sense for where we fit into the Christian past, but it has been mauled and stabbed and shredded by so many sects and nations... it feels like a vague notion of where we are drifting in a fog. That isn't keeping time.

It's hard to maintain a moral compass when you can't keep track of time.
 

Wahbooz

Governor
that's what I am talking about, a real calendar gives you reference to longevity, if you know where you are in a larger scheme of historical behavior, if you know what has been happening that brought you to this moment, if you understand how the present fits into the bigger picture, then you are keeping time.

I have a sense for where we fit into the Christian past, but it has been mauled and stabbed and shredded by so many sects and nations... it feels like a vague notion of where we are drifting in a fog. That isn't keeping time.

It's hard to maintain a moral compass when you can't keep track of time.
Precisely. Too many people rely on a calendar, rather than reality. It irritated me so much when I had to start the steam line back up. Too many people don't realize what goes into that process. And every year someone thought it was safe to turn the line off.... too soon.

And Christianity has been polluted by way too many different churches creating their own doctrine, which is why I don't belong to any.
 

Days

Commentator
The Little Ice Age will come when every drinker starts using crushed ice instead of cubes.
there was a half dozen openings to carry this conversation into some pretty cool perspectives, instead you go for the stale back room drunken bad humor, and fail at that, I'm mostly angry that you failed. Next time slow down and think about your delivery.
 
there was a half dozen openings to carry this conversation into some pretty cool perspectives, instead you go for the stale back room drunken bad humor, . Next time slow down and think about your delivery.
I'm More Interested in the Fact That "Moon" Is Related to "Minus"

If you say so. But I'm not used to taking orders from pushy fad-followers. How can I atone for my sin, Master?
 

Days

Commentator
Shouldn't that be Cheers? Every episode was about drinkers. After all, he couldn't possibly be referring to 'drunken indians'..... could he.
I was making a pun about "timing" a joke. I was telling him to watch Seinfeld to learn timing. Did you know that the best comedians were all drummers? It's all about timing.
 

Wahbooz

Governor
I was making a pun about "timing" a joke. I was telling him to watch Seinfeld to learn timing. Did you know that the best comedians were all drummers? It's all about timing.
Well hell, I should have been a comedian, I played a trap set.
 
I was making a pun about "timing" a joke. I was telling him to watch Seinfeld to learn timing. Did you know that the best comedians were all drummers? It's all about timing.
I thought we were restricted to discussing ice ages and calendars. Comedians and drummers should be :eek: OFF TOPIC!!!
 

Days

Commentator
I thought we were restricted to discussing ice ages and calendars. Comedians and drummers should be :eek: OFF TOPIC!!!
Don't let anyone restrict you, no how. You write exactly freaking what the inspiration in your bones tells you to write and then, by god, if they don't like it, then play all those politics, but don't you dare hold back, becuzzzzz, first and foremost, the whole damn reason for being here, is to spit it out, and spit it out exactly the way you intended it, and if that breaks some made up rule somewhere, so be it, doesn't it always?
 
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