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The Day of the Lord

Jen

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The fray wasn't the only hard hammer I endured. I desperately needed them all. That's the sort of thing we are thankful for looking back, but not as they are passing (like a large kidney stone).

I hope the graphic was right on this one. Snowflakes. I love it. I am introspective to a fault, btw and tend to make things much heavier than they ought to be.

I am sending you a PM.
 

Days

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The fray wasn't the only hard hammer I endured. I desperately needed them all. That's the sort of thing we are thankful for looking back, but not as they are passing (like a large kidney stone).

I hope the graphic was right on this one. Snowflakes. I love it. I am introspective to a fault, btw and tend to make things much heavier than they ought to be.

I am sending you a PM.
Snowflakes came out perfect in this thread... that was my "cool" post.
I guess I'm not supposed to do that,
but you know, sometimes more than one word is too much.
 
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Jen

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Snowflakes came out perfect in this thread... that was my "cool" post.
I guess I'm not supposed to do that,
but you know, sometimes more than one word is too much.
I saw that after I wrote my post.
Sometimes one word is exactly right.
 

JackDallas

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I have never asked God for one of his gifts. I didn't know I could. I've asked for a lot of things, but not a gift of the Spirit. If I have one, it is Empathy. Don't laugh. I can feel the mood of a crowd or of a single person (and I believe animals too) and it's a painful gift. ... if that's what it is. Maybe it's not a "gift". I have no idea what to do with it but it's there and has been for a long time. I can shut it off, but when I do, at some point it comes roaring back.

Other than that one thing that I don't even know to be a "gift" , I've got nothing.
I don't believe we ask for spiritual gifts. We don't know enough about ourselves to do that. Only God knows our talents, weaknesses and strengths. There is a saying: God doesn't choose the equipped, he equips the chosen. God gives the gifts as he determines.
 

JackDallas

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Snowflakes came out perfect in this thread... that was my "cool" post.
I guess I'm not supposed to do that,
but you know, sometimes more than one word is too much.
I appreciate this thread. I don't typically visit political discussion boards to proselytize and contend for the faith but when the opportunity presents itself, it's good that we do it. I've been a believer for over 40 years now and I am still a weak Christian. I identify with Peter and David mostly. Somebody ridicules the Lord, my first desire is to shoot the bastard. This is decidedly un-Christian and I have work to do on that. It was for people like me that God gave us his grace.
 

Days

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I appreciate this thread. I don't typically visit political discussion boards to proselytize and contend for the faith but when the opportunity presents itself, it's good that we do it. I've been a believer for over 40 years now and I am still a weak Christian. I identify with Peter and David mostly. Somebody ridicules the Lord, my first desire is to shoot the bastard. This is decidedly un-Christian and I have work to do on that. It was for people like me that God gave us his grace.
LOL you are too honest, Jack!

my wife (remember Twinstar in faith based?) says, "One-of-a-kind" ... uhm, she also warns, "he shouldn't become a youth pastor".

You know what? God does whatever he likes with us, I never worry if what I'm doing is right or wrong, I only worry if what I'm doing is coming from the holy spirit. To my way of thinking, strength comes from the Lord, it is not our testimony, I never proselytize, once in a while God speaks through me, usually after he has kicked the sh*t out of me, anyway, when we are weak, he is strong.

I was really weak, on my own, traveling the nation, sleeping in my car, when I had a car... in my 20's, I lived in 17 major cities in ten states if you count Baja California, I regularly cussed out the Lord for not taking care of me; regularly, it was a daily thing with me. Got tossed in 3 mental hospitals along the way, I was a disgrace and an embarrassment to my family and even to the local church in Detroit... even though the Lord saved me, he let me suffer the effects of the drugs; I took a lot of speed when I was 19 years old to keep me up for the long days of work, driving all over Michigan; all I had to tell my son was... you don't want to end up like me; my nerves are totally wrecked. industrial painting thinner for oil based, and wood working oils didn't help; I did a lot of wood working. Working as a rigger, mechanic, painter, window washer didn't grace me with the cleanest mouth... I was a real mess in my youth, the first 15 years in Christ weren't pretty. At the same time, I was preaching all over the nation; lots and lots of lives were touched, God uses our poverty to spread his riches... out of the mouth of babes. If God had me work with the youth, he can use anybody.
 
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JackDallas

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LOL you are too honest, Jack!

my wife (remember Twinstar in faith based?) says, "One-of-a-kind" ... uhm, she also warns, "he shouldn't become a youth pastor".

You know what? God does whatever he likes with us, I never worry if what I'm doing is right or wrong, I only worry if what I'm doing is coming from the holy spirit. To my way of thinking, strength comes from the Lord, it is not our testimony, I never proselytize, once in a while God speaks through me, usually after he has kicked the sh*t out of me, anyway, when we are weak, he is strong.

I was really weak, on my own, traveling the nation, sleeping in my car, when I had a car... in my 20's, I lived in 17 major cities in ten states if you count Baja California, I regularly cussed out the Lord for not taking care of me; regularly, it was a daily thing with me. Got tossed in 3 mental hospitals along the way, I was a disgrace and an embarrassment to my family and even to the local church in Detroit... even though the Lord saved me, he let me suffer the effects of the drugs; I took a lot of speed when I was 19 years old to keep me up for the long days of work, driving all over Michigan; all I had to tell my son was... you don't want to end up like me; my nerves are totally wrecked. industrial painting thinner for oil based, and wood working oils didn't help; I did a lot of wood working. Working as a rigger, mechanic, painter, window washer didn't grace me with the cleanest mouth... I was a real mess in my youth, the first 15 years in Christ weren't pretty. At the same time, I was preaching all over the nation; lots and lots of lives were touched, God uses our poverty to spread his riches... out of the mouth of babes. If God had me work with the youth, he can use anybody.
It's a meandering walk with God, we often take. The path is straight but we wander off .
 

Days

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It's a meandering walk with God, we often take. The path is straight but we wander off .
I never wandered off the path of the holy spirit, I just meandered all over man's institutions and their ethical norms. I don't care what they think, they are not the Lord. I've been tossed out of 5 or 6 churches, because I refused to put their doctrines above the scriptures. I was tossed out of the very first church I ever walked into because I believed the scriptures in place of what that whacked out California liberal preacher was teaching. (Not liberal politics, but liberal theology) I was never one to just go along with the system. The wife and I were cast out of the Living Stream ministry, where I trained for ministry, because we fell in love and they had other plans for who we should marry (Taiwan church using marriage to bring their people over).

My experience walking into churches all over America could be summed up in one word: apostasy: the church has fallen away from the faith. Corporate churches exist for one purpose; to make money. Now go learn how many of America's churches are incorporated into the state... all of them. They take the Lord's body and place them into the body of the state (incorporate means "place into the body" corporal = body) in order to turn the preaching of the word into an enterprise. Then they hire preachers (hire preachers = hirelings) to run the enterprise, investing tithes (tithes are old testament) into new land and buildings, which the corporation owns. So the church has fallen away from the faith, and gone a whoring after enterprises, so the hirelings can live rich off of their teachings which, you guessed it, always center on money... specifically offerings.

The reason the sheep are all lost is because the shepherds are all whores, lusting after money, preaching for filthy lucre. Woe unto the shepherds.

Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD
~ Jeremiah 23:1
 

JackDallas

Senator
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I never wandered off the path of the holy spirit, I just meandered all over man's institutions and their ethical norms. I don't care what they think, they are not the Lord. I've been tossed out of 5 or 6 churches, because I refused to put their doctrines above the scriptures. I was tossed out of the very first church I ever walked into because I believed the scriptures in place of what that whacked out California liberal preacher was teaching. (Not liberal politics, but liberal theology) I was never one to just go along with the system. The wife and I were cast out of the Living Stream ministry, where I trained for ministry, because we fell in love and they had other plans for who we should marry (Taiwan church using marriage to bring their people over).

My experience walking into churches all over America could be summed up in one word: apostasy: the church has fallen away from the faith. Corporate churches exist for one purpose; to make money. Now go learn how many of America's churches are incorporated into the state... all of them. They take the Lord's body and place them into the body of the state (incorporate means "place into the body" corporal = body) in order to turn the preaching of the word into an enterprise. Then they hire preachers (hire preachers = hirelings) to run the enterprise, investing tithes (tithes are old testament) into new land and buildings, which the corporation owns. So the church has fallen away from the faith, and gone a whoring after enterprises, so the hirelings can live rich off of their teachings which, you guessed it, always center on money... specifically offerings.

The reason the sheep are all lost is because the shepherds are all whores, lusting after money, preaching for filthy lucre. Woe unto the shepherds.

Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD
~ Jeremiah 23:1
I never paid much attention to the shepherds.
 

Days

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I never paid much attention to the shepherds.
Ask me, they are all idiots. They know that the one thing Jesus hates is preaching for money, and yet they do it anyway. People think hell is going to be filled with rock-n-roll artists... I think hell is going to be filled with clergy, and anyone who lived after the reformation; anyone who grew up with ready access to the scriptures, and still went out and preached for money, all our wonderful pastors, all those good shepherds who needed your donation every week... yeah, that's going to be a bright spot in hell. Every steward of his grace must give account to the Lord, what will they say? "Lord, I knew you were an austere man, so I drop kicked your warnings and whored out your testimony for filthy lucre"... yeah, that's going to go over just great at their judgment seat. I'm sure the Lord Jesus will say, "no problem, I was a big liar anyway, glad you were cunning enough to torture my chosen for a few more dollars". Really Jack, I am at such a loss of wits for my brethren, what were they thinking?
 

Days

Commentator
Want to talk about the anointing. We have fallen so far from the faith, that we think of Jesus as the Christ, and the rest of us as dumb sheep. And although, on a whole, that tends to be the case, still I want to argue with the doctrine, if you can call it that. The crazy split in the historical theology over whether Jesus was a man or God... seems surreal. Jesus himself told us he was just a man who could do nothing in and of himself, that all the works come from the Father (in heaven). So, it would seem to be a no-brainer. But the terrible truth about this planet is we have a lot of gods... everyone had their gods... that's what the common (catholic) faith was all about, it was the carry-over of the ancient way of worshipping the gods. The common faith demanded that we place Jesus in a temple of stone and worship him as a god. So, he cannot be just a man, anointed by god, he must be the embodiment of God himself. So, he was God Almighty, come in the flesh. The goofy part is... he was. We all are. When the anointing is placed inside a human, God is come in the flesh. Sure, we are given a measure of the holy spirit... but think, that's a measure of God Almighty; how much God do you need for it to be Almighty? Like I said in the apology; how can you measure out God? Aren't we really measuring his works? God is resting upon the church, upon the body, the rest is just a measure of what he is doing. You can't weigh the holy spirit in the balances, God cannot be contained in a box, God is immeasurable, he is in all things, if Jesus had shut up his disciples while riding into Jerusalem, the rocks would have shouted out... you can't contain God.

Jesus was a man of his times. He was finite. God did amazing things with him and God also was defined through him, we gaze at the nature of this man, we marvel at his grace, we learned that we humans, are much more than we ever realized, or dared believe. And yet, Jesus was still a product of his times, he only knew what he knew as a man, living in those times, having experienced what he experienced. He was also a prophet, saw visions, and was shaped by the indwelling anointing... he was... the first Christ, the firstborn among many brethren, and we all are every whit the same as he was, we are prophets and we have the seed of Christ growing inside us. In this final end of days, the end of the Age, as we build the top stone of the church, we are standing upon the shoulders of all those who carried the cross, and we are the product of these times. We are, as he was, finite men, but anointed by God Almighty, and in these last days, men do wonder at the things we are doing, just as they did when Jesus did them.
 
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Days

Commentator
Want to talk about the anointing. We have fallen so far from the faith, that we think of Jesus as the Christ, and the rest of us as dumb sheep. And although, on a whole, that tends to be the case, still I want to argue with the doctrine, if you can call it that. The crazy split in the historical theology over whether Jesus was a man or God... seems surreal. Jesus himself told us he was just a man who could do nothing in and of himself, that all the works come from the Father (in heaven). So, it would seem to be a no-brainer. But the terrible truth about this planet is we have a lot of gods... everyone had their gods... that's what the common (catholic) faith was all about, it was the carry-over of the ancient way of worshipping the gods. The common faith demanded that we place Jesus in a temple of stone and worship him as a god. So, he cannot be just a man, anointed by god, he must be the embodiment of God himself. So, he was God Almighty, come in the flesh. The goofy part is... he was. We all are. When the anointing is placed inside a human, God is come in the flesh. Sure, we are given a measure of the holy spirit... but think, that's a measure of God Almighty; how much God do you need for it to be Almighty? Like I said in the apology; how can you measure out God? Aren't we really measuring his works? God is resting upon the church, upon the body, the rest is just a measure of what he is doing. You can't weigh the holy spirit in the balances, God cannot be contained in a box, God is immeasurable, he is in all things, if Jesus had shut up his disciples while riding into Jerusalem, the rocks would have shouted out... you can't control God.

Jesus was a man of his times. He was finite. God did amazing things with him and God also was defined through him, we gaze at the nature of this man, we marvel at his grace, we learned that we humans, are much more than we ever realized, or dared believe. And yet, Jesus was still a product of his times, he only knew what he knew as a man, living in those times, having experienced what he experienced. He was also a prophet, saw visions, and was shaped by the indwelling anointing... he was... the first Christ, the firstborn among many brethren, and we all are every whit the same as he was, we are prophets and we have the seed of Christ growing inside us. In this final end of days, the end of the Age, as we build the top stone of the church, we are standing upon the shoulders of all those who carried the cross, and we are the product of these times. We are, as he was, finite men, but anointed by God Almighty, and in these last days, men do wonder at the things we are doing, just as they did when Jesus did them.
I AM A SPIRIT
There was a long history of personalities, spirits that were manifest as humans, but retaining godlike powers. Modern man has this faint memory of the "gods" from myths and legends and actually, also, a written record. Lord Enki ruled the Middle East and Africa for tens of thousands of years, both in myth and as recorded in the chronicles of kings, ancient Babylon. The myth was recorded in Genesis; Enki was the snake in the garden. Half snake, half man, these type creatures existed in the Far East also, and a snake never dies from old age, you have to kill it.

This present generation was raised in ignorance, so I get called a [Unwelcome language removed] idiot, just for relaying the facts, why do you people do that? Well, here's why. You do it because of the common faith, which is based upon the personification of the gods. IOW, the gods became human, half spirit, half human, and we knew them as humans, we gave them personalities; or just maybe, hell, they had personalities. So, we have the human reaction. We personify the gods. That's what it is, that's where it came from, and everyone is still doing it today, except, today, no one knows that's what they are doing, they just do it. So, I write down what I learned from my studies, what is recorded in stone (chronicles of kings) and what is recorded from word of mouth (myths) and you read my words and call me a [Unwelcome language removed] idiot... as if, I am to blame for the written record not matching your understanding and education. You personify the record and then blame it on the messenger; ask me, that is just stupid, but hell, everyone does it.

Now, there was a higher understanding of the spirit world and it began in Persia and it was called zoroastrianism. They perceived God as a fire. Not as a human, not having a human personality, not getting angry and casting thunderbolts at mankind, or sending angels with swords and killing humans with storms or disease or earthquakes or floods. I'm sure if human civilization had been aware of the small moon that broke up over the north pole and caused the great flood recorded as Noah's flood, I'm sure the small moon would have been personified, or at least a story would have explained that God was sorry he made mankind because mankind was sinful (never mind it was God that put the sinful nature into man) so he sent the small moon to strike the north pole and melt all that ice and confuse scientists for a thousand generations... but I digress... the Persians un-deified the gods and saw them simply as spirits.

3 wise men traveled to Judah for the birth of the Christ. Why was that so important? Have you ever stopped to think what an impact that made on Joseph and Mary? In those days, you didn't come visit for cocktails and dinner and then go home... these men came from the other side of the empire, they stayed for days, even weeks, to be sure. So they were rememberred as "wise men" ... get it? They taught that young couple things they never knew they never knew.

Fast forward to Jesus ministry. "God is a spirit, and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth". Where the heck did he get that from? Persia.

"I am that I am" is not a name... let me paraphrase the Almighty at the burning bush; ready? what he said to Moses was this, "take off your sandals, learn some respect" okay, who was speaking? the fire was speaking. Finally Moses asks the fire for his name. ARRRRRRRRRGH! "I don't have a name, Moses, I'm not a man like you, I'm a frickin' spirit, haven't you noticed?"

... speak to the rock, Moses, don't strike it with a rod, the rock doesn't have feelings, it isn't going to behave better if you spank it. watch your temper.

So, was John the baptist Elijah or wasn't he? Jesus said he was. John said he wasn't. What's going on there? I'll tell you what's going on there, the people need to personify the gods, so they are looking for the man Elijah to return, not his spirit... and it never dawned on those people that it is the same spirit that was resting on Elijah and then Elisha, that is resting on John and then resting on Jesus, and that it is the anointing spirit that is God. The messiah is just a man he rests on, God is the anointing itself; the spirit resting on the man. It is the spirit that returns. Not the man.

So, jesus says it again in the apocalypse, when he returns, it won't be his person, it will be his spirit. Will you recognize his spirit? How? By faith? Your faith? The faith that fell away from following Christ? You know, there's an apostasy going on, the apostasy comes first, then Jesus returns, that's what Paul told us. So how will you recognize Jesus, if you do bump into him? And then there's the common faith that is still looking for the same person that lived 2000 years ago. Never mind that Jesus told us he would have a new name. That should have been understood from the prophets, that should have been understood by the anointing, he shouldn't have had to spell it out for you... and yet, how many of you are still not going to recognize the spirit? ... if you do bump into one of the two witnesses, how many of you will call the messiah a [Unwelcome language removed] idiot?
 
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Days

Commentator
Glory to God
Abraham believed God and it was accounted to him for righteousness. What is that? That's called justified by faith. And there's also that verse in the lesser prophets, the righteous shall live by their faith. What are they talking about? Abraham was no scholar, he was no great leader, he didn't build cities, he didn't teach us science, he didn't leave us any writings, not a word... what was so great about Abraham? He didn't do great things. All he did was walk away from Babylon and sojourn into a strange land. We are not so much as told what Abraham did in UR. He kept sheep and goats in Palestine. Because so many feel the need to put their heroes on a pedestal (idol worship - Abraham had idols in tow also, the whole world worships idols) they try to make a great man out of Abraham. The scriptures don't do that, they just say he was homeless, moved around in tents. But what Abraham did do, that was different from all the idol worshippers, was listen directly to the spirit of God, he had a personal relationship. If you would have told Abraham that he was a prophet, or as it were, a seer, they were called seers in those days, Abraham would have agreed, because he heard the voice of the Lord... and he lived by his faith, he walked away from Babylon and walked off, not knowing where he was going, because the spirit didn't tell him where to go, it just said "leave the home of your father". And off he walked.

Yeah, you know, leave the ways of your father also, leave behind all that idol worship, never return to Babylon. Leave all that personification of the gods. Forget worshipping God that way, learn to receive and return the spirit, reach out, touch faith. So when Abraham came to Salem, there was Melchisadek; who was a historical figure, he was a priest king of this crazy new faith, that Abraham had unwittingly joined, and Melchisadek explained to Abraham who this voice in his ear was... the most high God. That was an explanation that an idol worshipper from Babylon could understand, because Babylon was filled with gods, so here you go, Abraham, this spirit talking to you is the most high God. Abraham doesn't ask "what's his name?"

Learn to say this Y-AH. the y sound is heavy like a J. It floats some hot air. it could just as easily be pronounced HA. What is that? I dunno, but the ancients made that sound. It meant the spirit... the spirit of God. When a man made the journey from carnal flesh to the spirit realm (became a Buddha) God would add the sound of the spirit to his name, that's how we got ... JAH-shua ... Abr-AH-am.

How are we doing? Are we sitting there, calling me a f*cking idiot? That's okay, that's normal, that's how idol worshippers think. Religionists attack the spirit filled; always have, always will, that's why God told Abraham to get out of Babylon, had he stayed in Babylon, they would have killed him. Instead he stumbles into Palestine and runs into the high priest Melchisadek ... I'm just guessing that it was Melchisadek that changed his name. We get a new name as Christians, once we have been sufficiently transformed, we get the sound of the spirit added to our name. Do you catch my drift? Of course not, cuz you are still carnal, personifying the gods, worshipping idols, you are sitting there calling me a f*ching idiot again, who gets HA added to their name? No one does that. Maybe this guy belongs to a cult.

Bahaii = Hosanna = Glory to God

new name = new person, transformed, matured in the spirit, having the nature of the spirit.

Faith is a fire. Consuming our old nature, transforming us day by day, filling us with glory. The stone on the river bed is slowly replaced with precious minerals and transformed into a precious stone. It is a process. It is a journey. We follow the spirit inside us, instead of the religious mentality in the institutions of idol worship. The real Christians understand that the kingdom of God is inside us, talking to us, leading us out of Babylon, transforming us into the glory of God.
 
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Jen

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Glory to God
Abraham believed God and it was accounted to him for righteousness. What is that? That's called justified by faith. And there's also that verse in the lesser prophets, the righteous shall live by their faith. What are they talking about? Abraham was no scholar, he was no great leader, he didn't build cities, he didn't teach us science, he didn't leave us any writings, not a word... what was so great about Abraham? He didn't do great things. All he did was walk away from Babylon and sojourn into a strange land. We are not so much as told what Abraham did in UR. He kept sheep and goats in Palestine. Because so many feel the need to put their heroes on a pedestal (idol worship - Abraham had idols in tow also, the whole world worships idols) they try to make a great man out of Abraham. The scriptures don't do that, they just say he was homeless, moved around in tents. But what Abraham did do, that was different from all the idol worshippers, was listen directly to the spirit of God, he had a personal relationship. If you would have told Abraham that he was a prophet, or as it were, a seer, they were called seers in those days, Abraham would have agreed, because he heard the voice of the Lord... and he lived by his faith, he walked away from Babylon and walked off, not knowing where he was going, because the spirit didn't tell him where to go, it just said "leave the home of your father". And off he walked.

Yeah, you know, leave the ways of your father also, leave behind all that idol worship, never return to Babylon. Leave all that personification of the gods. Forget worshipping God that way, learn to receive and return the spirit, reach out, touch faith. So when Abraham came to Salem, there was Melchisadek; who was a histyorical figure, he was a priest king of this crazy new faith, that Abraham had unwittingly joined, and Melchisadek explained to Abraham who this voice in his ear was... the most high God. That was an explanation that an idol worshipper from Babylon could understand, because Babylon was filled with gods, so here you go, Abraham, this spirit talking to you is the most high God. Abraham doesn't ask "what's his name?"

Learn to say this Y-AH. the y sound is heavy like a J. It floats some hot air. it could just as easily be pronounced HA. What is that? I dunno, but the ancients made that sound. It meant the spirit... the spirit of God. When a man made the journey from carnal flesh to the spirit realm (became a Buddha) God would add the sound of the spirit to his name, that's how we got ... JAH-shua ... Abra-HA-m.

How are we doing? Are we sitting there, calling me a f*cking idiot? That's okay, that's normal, that's how idol worshippers think. Religionists attack the spirit filled; always have, always will, that's why God told Abraham to get out of Babylon, had he stayed in Babylon, they would have killed him. Instead he stumbles into Palestine and runs into the high priest Melchisadek ... I'm just guessing that it was Melchisadek that changed his name. We get a new name as Christians, once we have been sufficiently transformed, we get the sound of the spirit added to our name. Do you catch my drift? Of course not, cuz you are still carnal, personifying the gods, worshipping idols, you are sitting there calling me a f*ching idiot again, who gets HA added to their name? No one does that. Maybe this guy belongs to a cult.

Bahaii = Hosanna = Glory to God

new name = new person, transformed, matured in the spirit, having the nature of the spirit.

Faith is a fire. Consuming our old nature, transforming us day by day, filling us with glory. The stone on the river bed is slowly replaced with precious minerals and transformed into a precious stone. It is a process. It is a journey. We follow the spirit inside us, instead of the religious mentality in the institutions of idol worship. The real Christians understand that the kingdom of God is inside us, talking to us, leading us out of Babylon, transforming us into the glory of God.
I get what you are saying.
Thanks for saying it.
 

Days

Commentator
I get what you are saying.
Thanks for saying it.
Faith is what you believe in your heart, while religion is what you do daily with your hands and feet. The old way of the common faith was religion. Even the way under the Law of Moses was religion. You payed homage, you gave honor, you performed the priestly service, you followed whatever methods in whichever cultures, and you worshipped the gods ... or the most high God ... with your actions. When the prophet said to bind the word of God to your clothing so you never forget it; the people walked around with little scrolls attached to their clothing. The bottom line: mankind lived out his whole life in the same sinful flesh he was born into, and if he feared God, he tried to live lawfully so that he might not be judged harshly when he died... but while he was alive, there was no transformation of his being from carnal into spiritual.

That's what the living breath of the holy spirit does; that's what the good news of the resurrection accomplished; God imparted his holy spirit - through faith in the Christ Jesus - into the hearts of men. We no longer physically attach the scriptures to our clothing, we read the scriptures and the word abides in us, grows in us, there's a living word inside us... it isn't rote memory of the scriptures, memorized by our carnal minds... the old religion has been displaced by the living word - the anointing - and that Christ in us, is transforming us into a whole new creature; our old ways are replaced with a new nature.

Back in Babylon, they are still wordshipping the gods through religion, and they are not being transformed by it one whit. they may study the scriptures, they may study church history, they may know and understand so many different rituals, but they have not learned the way described in the Book of Acts. They think that what they are doing is the same as what the Apostles were doing, because they outwardly perform the same works. But the works they perform are the product of their carnal hands and feet, the ways they follow are the dogmas of their churches, and the bottom line is - even if they believe in Jesus - they are not following the holy spirit, they are following religion.

And the thing is, religion can not transform your being. Religion can save you, anything that takes your daily living from sinful acts into sincere acts of kindness can save you. Outwardly, your living has been saved. But only the holy spirit can transform you inwardly. And that doesn't happen unless we discipline ourselves to follow the
Christ in us; and that's a different discipline from following the outward doctrines of religion. I'm talking to the saved. Going to church on Sunday morning and Bible study on Wednesday evenings is going to save you, but only following the Christ in you is going to transform you.

When jesus asked... "when the son of man returns, will he find faith on the earth?" ... this is the faith he was talking about; will he find people following the anointing inside them? Will people be getting transformed daily into the same nature that flowed out as grace from Jesus? This is the faith that jesus brought, and no one - not even his apostles - understood it. but when he breathed tyhe holy spirit into his believers, then the holy spirit taught it to us. That's why St John wrote that you need no man to teach you because the anointing inside you will teach you, all we need to do is abide in the vine, pay attention to the anointing inside us.
 

Jen

Senator
Faith is what you believe in your heart, while religion is what you do daily with your hands and feet. The old way of the common faith was religion. Even the way under the Law of Moses was religion. You payed homage, you gave honor, you performed the priestly service, you followed whatever methods in whichever cultures, and you worshipped the gods ... or the most high God ... with your actions. When the prophet said to bind the word of God to your clothing so you never forget it; the people walked around with little scrolls attached to their clothing. The bottom line: mankind lived out his whole life in the same sinful flesh he was born into, and if he feared God, he tried to live lawfully so that he might not be judged harshly when he died... but while he was alive, there was no transformation of his being from carnal into spiritual.

That's what the living breath of the holy spirit does; that's what the good news of the resurrection accomplished; God imparted his holy spirit - through faith in the Christ Jesus - into the hearts of men. We no longer physically attach the scriptures to our clothing, we read the scriptures and the word abides in us, grows in us, there's a living word inside us... it isn't rote memory of the scriptures, memorized by our carnal minds... the old religion has been displaced by the living word - the anointing - and that Christ in us, is transforming us into a whole new creature; our old ways are replaced with a new nature.

Back in Babylon, they are still wordshipping the gods through religion, and they are not being transformed by it one whit. they may study the scriptures, they may study church history, they may know and understand so many different rituals, but they have not learned the way described in the Book of Acts. They think that what they are doing is the same as what the Apostles were doing, because they outwardly perform the same works. But the works they perform are the product of their carnal hands and feet, the ways they follow are the dogmas of their churches, and the bottom line is - even if they believe in Jesus - they are not following the holy spirit, they are following religion.

And the thing is, religion can not transform your being. Religion can save you, anything that takes your daily living from sinful acts into sincere acts of kindness can save you. Outwardly, your living has been saved. But only the holy spirit can transform you inwardly. And that doesn't happen unless we discipline ourselves to follow the
Christ in us; and that's a different discipline from following the outward doctrines of religion. I'm talking to the saved. Going to church on Sunday morning and Bible study on Wednesday evenings is going to save you, but only following the Christ in you is going to transform you.

When jesus asked... "when the son of man returns, will he find faith on the earth?" ... this is the faith he was talking about; will he find people following the anointing inside them? Will people be getting transformed daily into the same nature that flowed out as grace from Jesus? This is the faith that jesus brought, and no one - not even his apostles - understood it. but when he breathed tyhe holy spirit into his believers, then the holy spirit taught it to us. That's why St John wrote that you need no man to teach you because the anointing inside you will teach you, all we need to do is abide in the vine, pay attention to the anointing inside us.
I hope I am wrong, but in this era of apostasy, I see fewer people who are truly transformed than I did when I was a child. That transformation was easy to see in my parents, both sets of grandparents, and the friends they had. But now it seems people are more like pharisees than truly transformed.

I do know people who have been transformed by the Spirit. My husband for one, as well as my closest friends. Maybe it's all okay and my circle is just small.
 

Days

Commentator
I hope I am wrong, but in this era of apostasy, I see fewer people who are truly transformed than I did when I was a child. That transformation was easy to see in my parents, both sets of grandparents, and the friends they had. But now it seems people are more like pharisees than truly transformed.

I do know people who have been transformed by the Spirit. My husband for one, as well as my closest friends. Maybe it's all okay and my circle is just small.
This is what the apostasy was. The denominational clergy will tell you that it was the Jesuit overthrow of the protestant seminaries in the 1920's... and that works for me, just like I use the collapse of the Twin Towers to mark "when the towers fall" (Isaiah 30:25)...

... but to the Lord, those two ideas are quite related. We fell away from following the spirit. That's what the apostasy was. The towers were the two witnesses, the testimony, the two aspects of the holy spirit. Through God's eyes, he sees hardly anyone pulling on the spirit, feeding on the spirit, the earth has gone dark to him.
 

Jen

Senator
This is what the apostasy was. The denominational clergy will tell you that it was the Jesuit overthrow of the protestant seminaries in the 1920's... and that works for me, just like I use the collapse of the Twin Towers to mark "when the towers fall" (Isaiah 30:25)...

... but to the Lord, those two ideas are quite related. We fell away from following the spirit. That's what the apostasy was. The towers were the two witnesses, the testimony, the two aspects of the holy spirit. Through God's eyes, he sees hardly anyone pulling on the spirit, feeding on the spirit, the earth has gone dark to him.
I hope God sees you, me (as I ask for the Spirit to dwell within me though I am far from perfect enough).......and the others who are asking to be Spirit-filled. I hope there are still points of light that God can see in a very dark world.

I feel great and heavy sadness for the world these days.
 

Days

Commentator
I hope God sees you, me (as I ask for the Spirit to dwell within me though I am far from perfect enough).......and the others who are asking to be Spirit-filled. I hope there are still points of light that God can see in a very dark world.

I feel great and heavy sadness for the world these days.
It's always darkest before the dawn. 1968-1971 was the great jesus movement... hippies getting born-again. The boomers walked away from structured society and a good portion of them turned to Jesus, so we are already 4 decades into the dawn of the new day. You just don't see it outwardly, but God sees it. The whole earth is being filled with his light, while the political systems grow darker and darker.

I've preached all over this land and what I've noticed is that - yes, there's a lot of faith out there - but I don't see genuine churches built up, I don't see fellowship that isn't for profit, isn't based upon paying some hireling. There is supposed to be freedom to exercise the spirit, there is supposed to be "spirit-led" communion... and while that is often used term, I haven't seen it anywhere. So if you ask me, "Days, you have walked into all types of churches all over the land, have you seen faith still here on the earth?" I'd have to say, not really. I've seen genuine faith in Jesus, but I haven't seen it developed over time, matured, I haven't seen the fruit of the Spirit.

Ask me, what is the Lord hoping to accomplished in the short time left before the 7th seal is broken? I'd say, the Lord wants to see a return of a genuine christian walk, the kind of faith in the apostles that was lost immediately, even in the early churches. Instead of an outward show of worship, God wants us to draw upon the holy spirit, abide in the vine... until that vine manifests itself... which, btw, is what the birth of the manchild represents.
 
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