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End winner take all in the electoral college and let the true voice of the people be heard.

Considering you wingers have only won the popular once in the last 28 yrs. I can see why you seem a bit upset about the true voice of the people actually being heard and feel a desperate need to reject anything might reveal it.

Sad.
I'll stick with the status quo thank you. Even if an Evil Democrat wins...I promise I won't act like a lefty and squeal like a pig.
 

Nutty Cortez

Dummy (D) NY
Considering you wingers have only won the popular once in the last 28 yrs. I can see why you seem a bit upset about the true voice of the people actually being heard and feel a desperate need to reject anything might reveal it.

Sad.

Popular vote is irrelevant. Again. Considering only 1 Democrat Candidate after 1964 (LBJ) has been able to get more than 51% of the vote
 

Spamature

President
I'll stick with the status quo thank you. Even if an Evil Democrat wins...I promise I won't act like a lefty and squeal like a pig.
Your desire to see someone evil win does not come as a surprise. We all know you wingers only squeal when a good person wins.

Your bitter hatred of Carter and Obama compared to your adoration for evil men like Nixon, and Trump, are a testament to that fact.
 
The EC is part of the Constitution. But the Constitution does not say that anyone who wins a state should get all of its EC votes. All of the liberals in Mississippi and the conservatives in California should not have their voices shut out by a system that makes their votes meaningless when all of the EC votes go to only one candidate.

A few voters in swing states should not decide the elections for the entire country. Nor should we have the election decided on razor thin margins in a Florida or Pennsylvania. The only fair way to do things is to divide the EC votes based upon the the percentage of votes each candidate gets in that state.

That way everyone's voice is equal and all votes are counted.
No way the power structure will ever agree to real representation for everyone and one hominid one vote.
 

Spamature

President
Popular vote is irrelevant. Again. Considering only 1 Democrat Candidate after 1964 (LBJ) has been able to get more than 51% of the vote
Well if you are saying the popular vote is meaningless then why bring up that meaningless (in your opinion) statistic ?
 

Spamature

President
No way the power structure will ever agree to real representation for everyone and one hominid one vote.
Maybe it will. After all as far as the power structure you talking about is concerned, vote, don't vote, it's all the same to them. It deals with, for its own sake, whom ever is sent to represent the hominids, regardless .
 

SW48

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The popular vote isn't meaningless per se. After all, it is and does represent the true will of the people.
It's only the way the EC is run that makes the popular vote and the true will of the people meaningless.
And if Republicans were winning the popular vote you would not be for it. Lets be honest here.

It would end up being the will of Californians and New Yorkers is what you meant.
 
Maybe it will. After all as far as the power structure you talking about is concerned, vote, don't vote, it's all the same to them. It deals with, for its own sake, whom ever is sent to represent the hominids, regardless .

Which is why it won't, it can withstand an endless personalities turnover; outer "change", internal consistency.
 
And if Republicans were winning the popular vote you would not be for it. Lets be honest here.

It would end up being the will of Californians and New Yorkers is what you meant.
Only certain americans are to be represented.

Ever since the illustrious founding.
 

middleview

President
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Since they don't get to vote in the elections of other states for the purpose of voting they are citizens of Virginia.
They are voting for the president of the United States. Not the president of Virginia.
Their votes are not more valuable than any other vote and yet 2 million votes in Virginia are worth 13 electors and 174,000 votes in Wyoming are worth3 electors.
 

Spamature

President
And if Republicans were winning the popular vote you would not be for it. Lets be honest here.

It would end up being the will of Californians and New Yorkers is what you meant.
Will you guys please stop constantly imagining I would do what you would do ?

This post was made purely on the premise that it is best idea under the constitutional system we have.

You tell me why it should be up to Pennsylvania or Florida or North Carolina or any other swing state to decide the election ? Because that is what we have now. The current system makes the votes of liberals in red states and conservatives in blue states votes meaningless. How is that better to shut out the voices of almost half the population ?

Please explain that to me !
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Popular vote is irrelevant. Again. Considering only 1 Democrat Candidate after 1964 (LBJ) has been able to get more than 51% of the vote
You assume popular vote means the winner has to get 50% + 1. Your math is what is irrelevant. In every election in the USA the winner is the person who got the most votes.
 

Spamature

President
They are voting for the president of the United States. Not the president of Virginia.
Their votes are not more valuable than any other vote and yet 2 million votes in Virginia are worth 13 electors and 174,000 votes in Wyoming are worth3 electors.
But unless you change the Constitution,the bill of right portion to boot, which ain't gonna happen, this is the best we can do. And it is unfair to Virginians to give away their decision making power when other states aren't giving away their own in return.
 
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