The Christian God condones abortion

[Nomenclature]

You didn't say you were a faggot.

Feel better little kinder?

So not liking the fact that your brothers in superstition murder gays makes me a faggot? That's conservative logic for you. You are a disgusting little stupid fuckbag son.

 

[resident_evil]

So not liking the fact that your brothers in superstition murder gays makes me a faggot? That's conservative logic for you. You are a disgusting little stupid fuckbag son.

And you're black too?




Just keep asking if you need more outrage quota to work on for your therapy session. ha ha

 

[Nomenclature]

And you're black too?




Just keep asking if you need more outrage quota to work on for your therapy prescription. ha ha

I will clear a few things up for you. I am half Ashkenazi and half black. Also bi (but usually favor females) and I was raised in the UK but moved to America as a teen.
Do you have any more racism and homophobia for me, the amount you've displayed thus far is enough to make it evident but still a bit too on the mild side to provide much entertainment and/or outrage.

 

[resident_evil]

I will clear a few things up for you. I am half Ashkenazi and half black. Also bi (but usually favor females) and I was raised in the UK but moved to America as a teen.
Do you have any more racism and homophobia for me, the amount you've displayed thus far is enough to make it evident but still a bit too on the mild side to provide much entertainment and/or outrage.

If true that could explain a lot.

You left out millenial. Are you a millenial too?

 

[Nomenclature]

If true that could explain a lot.

You left out millenial. Are you a millenial too?

I am 37. I also work as an editor and freelance journalist but I won't be linking to my work as that would reveal my identity. I also enjoy having bagels for breakfast. Hbu?

 

[resident_evil]

I am 37. I also work as an editor and freelance journalist but I won't be linking to my work as that would reveal my identity. I also enjoy having bagels for breakfast. Hbu?

Yeah, bagels for breakfast are good.

Like a real editor/journo or just someone with a youtube channel/ wordpress account who blabs on and on? We all suffer our delusions so I'll just take you at your word on the matter. :0)

 

[Nomenclature]

Yeah, bagels for breakfast are good.

Like a real editor/journo or just someone with a youtube channel/ wordpress account who blabs on and on? We all suffer our delusions so I'll just take you at your word on the matter. :0)

I make a decent living doing it so by capitalist standards you must admit I am a "real one". Of course, in reality there are many people with even more intelligent opinions and knowledge of facts than me who don't get paid for it and complete idiots who are payed much better for expressing idiocy. Because in a real meritocracy such as the free market an idiot shill becomes rich and famous and smart, honest people generally do not.

 

[SoccerMom]

Ten biblical episodes and prophecies provide an unequivocal expression of God's attitude toward human life, especially the ontological status of "unborn children" and their pregnant mothers-to-be. Brief summaries:

• A pregnant woman who is injured and aborts the fetus warrants financial compensation only (to her husband), suggesting that the fetus is property, not a person (Exodus 21:22-25).

• The gruesome priestly purity test to which a wife accused of adultery must submit will cause her to abort the fetus if she is guilty, indicating that the fetus does not possess a right to life (Numbers 5:11-31).

• God enumerated his punishments for disobedience, including "cursed shall be the fruit of your womb" and "you will eat the fruit of your womb," directly contradicting sanctity-of-life claims (Deuteronomy 28:18,53).

• Elisha's prophecy for soon-to-be King Hazael said he would attack the Israelites, burn their cities, crush the heads of their babies and rip open their pregnant women (2 Kings 8:12).

• King Menahem of Israel destroyed Tiphsah (also called Tappuah) and the surrounding towns, killing all residents and ripping open pregnant women with the sword (2 Kings 15:16).

• Isaiah prophesied doom for Babylon, including the murder of unborn children: "They will have no pity on the fruit of the womb" (Isaiah 13:18).

• For worshiping idols, God declared that not one of his people would live, not a man, woman or child (not even babies in arms), again confuting assertions about the sanctity of life (Jeremiah 44:7-8).

• God will punish the Israelites by destroying their unborn children, who will die at birth, or perish in the womb, or never even be conceived (Hosea 9:10-16).

• For rebelling against God, Samaria's people will be killed, their babies will be dashed to death against the ground, and their pregnant women will be ripped open with a sword (Hosea 13:16).

• Jesus did not express any special concern for unborn children during the anticipated end times: "Woe to pregnant women and those who are nursing" (Matthew 24:19).

The scriptures you cite are prophecy and history. Prophesy is a warning, NOT approval of what will happen if God's warnings are ignored. History is merely an account of what happened, again it does not indicate approval for what happened. Far from approving of the deaths of children, the warnings are there for those who value their children.
None of the scriptures you list imply approval of the killing of a baby for a woman's convenience. None of them. Far from expressing approval of abortion, the prophecies and the history illustrate the brutality of man's inhumanity to man in Biblical times. Such brutality demonstrates the utter lack of understanding for the value of human life, making their purpose the exact opposite of what you claim.

 

[SoccerMom]

Yep, we knew it was all documented in the Bible.
Thanks for pulling it together.

It isn't, and he didn't.

 

[SoccerMom]

I know where you are going with that but the obvious flaw in your argument is that your god personally condoned such acts according to the bible, just as he condoned and personally committed genocide. The new testament in no way suggests that God changed his mind about such things and even if he did that would contradict his supposed omniscience.

God is not condoning the brutality described in the prophecies and historical scriptures you list. Prophecy is a warning.
This week we have heard dire prophecies of what will happen if we do not take precautions against COVID-19. Does that mean the government is condoning the disease and death that will occur if we ignore their warnings? Of course not.
If God wanted all the brutality of the prophecy, why would He bother to warn them?
If He really condoned it, He simply would have allowed it to happen without warning.

 

[SoccerMom]

Fetus Fetish of Frigid Fundamentalists

God would not an unwanted child to be born only to live in misery; he would take the soul directly to heaven. God would not have created such a strong sex drive and then punished those driven by it with an unwanted child. Otherwise, He would not be a loving God, and therefore no God at all.

Then how do you explain the millions of children born into third world countries?
God intends for you to be in control over your sex drive.

 

[SoccerMom]

I seeing that you don't have a single argument in anything you say. You just assert your backwards, primitive opinions that you pick up from PragerU vids and refuse to have a debate when backed into a corner. You are an anti-intellectual troglodyte cretin repeating lazy fallacies about socialism when you have never studied socialism itself, only what the right says about socialism. You are an insanely idiotic little ass-nugget who simply ignores any bible verse you don't like and claims to be Christian. If you were a real Christian who follows the bible you would be murdering infidels and gays etc. just like they do in the Islamic theocracies. The only difference between you and the Muslims you probably hate is that they actually follow their book and when Christians followed their book what you got was shit like the inquisition.

"If you were a real Christian who follows the bible you would be murdering infidels and gays etc. "
One small problem that illustrates the non-Christian's lack of understanding of the Bible.
1.What you are quoting is Levitical law, and Christians have never been subject to these laws.
2. While the Levitical law did call for the stoning of gays, it has never called for the "killing of 'infidels'".

 

[Nomenclature]

"If you were a real Christian who follows the bible you would be murdering infidels and gays etc. "
One small problem that illustrates the non-Christian's lack of understanding of the Bible.
1.What you are quoting is Levitical law, and Christians have never been subject to these laws.
2. While the Levitical law did call for the stoning of gays, it has never called for the "killing of 'infidels'".

1. Even if God somehow suggested that Christians are not to have abortions, which he didn't, he still condoned levitical law. It was HIS law, so I don't get why Christians refuse to admit that the God they believe in would be a barbaric piece of crap if he actually existed. Are you suggesting that God changed his mind and became a better person later on?
2. It's pretty much the same as in Islam as far as I know. You don't have to go out of your way to do it unless you are at war with them but it's technically okay to do so.

 

[Nomenclature]

God is not condoning the brutality described in the prophecies and historical scriptures you list. Prophecy is a warning.
This week we have heard dire prophecies of what will happen if we do not take precautions against COVID-19. Does that mean the government is condoning the disease and death that will occur if we ignore their warnings? Of course not.
If God wanted all the brutality of the prophecy, why would He bother to warn them?
If He really condoned it, He simply would have allowed it to happen without warning.

"God will punish the Israelites by destroying their unborn children, who will die at birth, or perish in the womb, or never even be conceived (Hosea 9:10-16)."
God not only condones abortion, he is an abortionist himself.

 

[JackDallas]

Yep, we knew it was all documented in the Bible.
Thanks for pulling it together.

How would you know, Julie?

 

[JuliefromOhio]

Another thing.
God gave women roughly 500,000 ova.
Can you say overkill?

 

[JuliefromOhio]

"God will punish the Israelites by destroying their unborn children, who will die at birth, or perish in the womb, or never even be conceived (Hosea 9:10-16)."
God not only condones abortion, he is an abortionist himself.

That damn Old Testament.

 

[SoccerMom]

1. Even if God somehow suggested that Christians are not to have abortions, which he didn't, he still condoned levitical law. It was HIS law, so I don't get why Christians refuse to admit that the God they believe in would be a barbaric piece of crap if he actually existed. Are you suggesting that God changed his mind and became a better person later on?
2. It's pretty much the same as in Islam as far as I know. You don't have to go out of your way to do it unless you are at war with them but it's technically okay to do so.

A barbaric piece of crap? No. God is perfect, we are the problem.
What you want is a God who allows sin without consequences. But God hates sin. He hates it, and when we ask Him to overlook our sin, which is what all atheists want, we make Him an accessory to the sin He hates.
Atheists know full well that God exists, and they hate Him. Ironically, they hate Him for giving them the free will to reject Him. They claim a perfect God would not allow them to sin. Oh the irony! Those who claim He doesn't exist believe they should have been made a puppet, rather than be given the free will to obey Him voluntarily.

 

[Nomenclature]

A barbaric piece of crap? No. God is perfect, we are the problem.
What you want is a God who allows sin without consequences. But God hates sin. He hates it, and when we ask Him to overlook our sin, which is what all atheists want, we make Him an accessory to the sin He hates.
Atheists know full well that God exists, and they hate Him. Ironically, they hate Him for giving them the free will to reject Him. They claim a perfect God would not allow them to sin. Oh the irony! Those who claim He doesn't exist believe they should have been made a puppet, rather than be given the free will to obey Him voluntarily.

I can prove that god doesn't exist if you want. But first I would like to clarify that there can be no such thing as sin even if he did. Why? Because sin means to go against the will of God, and God's will is that we have free will. God KNEW that some people would use it for evil, but he WANTED it to be that way. If it was truly against his will he wouldn't have made it so, so even if he doesn't like something you can't really call it a "sin" in the sense that I've heard that word defined.

 

[SoccerMom]

"God will punish the Israelites by destroying their unborn children, who will die at birth, or perish in the womb, or never even be conceived (Hosea 9:10-16)."
God not only condones abortion, he is an abortionist himself.

Nope. This is end times prophecy, and presented in a poetic way the Israelites would understand. The Israelites valued children, so a warning that includes losing them would be taken seriously.
You think you are proving your case by pulling verses out of context, and claiming Christians don't know what they are talking about without ever having done what Christians do, namely read the entire book. You do not understand what you are reading.
Case in point? 'You shall not murder" absolutely applies to abortion. It applies to any killing outside of war. You point to Leviticus and say that a man being allowed to place a monetary value on the loss of a pre-born child is proof the child has no value. Rather it is the opposite, the child has value in addition that of being a member of the family, especially as the father was likely a small business owner.