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Mick

The Right is always right
And you're doing Trump's bidding with this:

I guess this officially makes Barack Obama "Not exonerated"....:>)

So in your mind, you've already identified Obama's crimes, charged him, tried him and convicted him. Or don't you know what "exonerate" means?
Boy, this is rich. Coming from the person that screamed collusion with zero evidence whatsoever and that after Mueller and 53 witnesses in Congress all testified there was none said it is out there "If someone will just go looking".

ROFL. This is why you get made fun of. It's clown posting.
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
Boy, this is rich. Coming from the person that screamed collusion with zero evidence whatsoever and that after Mueller and 53 witnesses in Congress all testified there was none said it is out there "If someone will just go looking".

ROFL. This is why you get made fun of. It's clown posting.
Mueller has evidence of Trump campaign and Russia colluding (secret or illegal cooperation in order to cheat or deceive others). Read the Mueller Report.
The Trump campaign had over 120 contacts with the Russians including the Trump Tower meeting.

Collusion is not in the criminal statutes.
Conspiracy is.

Mueller found collusion, but could not meet the higher standard for CONSPIRACY.
Read what is needed to make a criminal charge of conspiracy....at the link.

 

Mick

The Right is always right
Mueller has evidence of Trump campaign and Russia colluding (secret or illegal cooperation in order to cheat or deceive others). Read the Mueller Report.
The Trump campaign had over 120 contacts with the Russians including the Trump Tower meeting.

Collusion is not in the criminal statutes.
Conspiracy is.

Mueller found collusion, but could not meet the higher standard for CONSPIRACY.
Read what is needed to make a criminal charge of conspiracy....at the link.

Per Mueller: “The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons knowingly or intentionally coordinated with [Russia’s] interference operation.”

You can't collude if you aren't coordinating first. It's kind of a prerequisite. Mueller and 53 witnesses all said there was none. You believe it is out there.....somehow, someway. It really is a reflection of insanity at this point. You realize that, right?

:p
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
Per Mueller: “The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons knowingly or intentionally coordinated with [Russia’s] interference operation.”

You can't collude if you aren't coordinating first. It's kind of a prerequisite. Mueller and 53 witnesses all said there was none. You believe it is out there.....somehow, someway. It really is a reflection of insanity at this point. You realize that, right?
If you read the link I provided, it explains the conditions that must be met to bring a conspiracy charge. Remember, collusion isn't a legal term. Collusion in criminal law is conspiracy.
Mueller couldn't pin down a conspiracy charge....and it's explained in the Mueller report why not.
Why did the Trump campaign have over 120 contacts with Russians? They were discussing the campaign. That's incriminating.
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
Obamagate Update: Brennan praises Durham


Former CIA Director John Brennan says he is willing to be interviewed by John Durham, the U.S. attorney from Connecticut investigating the origins of the Russia probe, while maintaining that he has “nothing to hide.”

Brennan, speaking with MSNBC, said he has yet to be contacted by Durham but said he would appear for an interview with him and his team of investigators.

“I feel very good that my tenure at CIA and my time at the White House during the Obama administration ... that I was not engaged in any type of wrongdoing or activities that cause me to worry about what this investigation may uncover,” Brennan said Friday. “So, I welcome the opportunity to talk with the investigators....

...Brennan called Durham a “well-respected individual from the Justice Department.”



Complete text: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/brennan-says-hes-willing-to-be-interviewed-by-durham-has-nothing-to-hide


See there? No worries....It's all good.

:)
 

Nutty Cortez

Dummy (D) NY
If you read the link I provided, it explains the conditions that must be met to bring a conspiracy charge. Remember, collusion isn't a legal term. Collusion in criminal law is conspiracy.
Mueller couldn't pin down a conspiracy charge....and it's explained in the Mueller report why not.
Why did the Trump campaign have over 120 contacts with Russians? They were discussing the campaign. That's incriminating.
3 years and couldn't find sh*t.

Lynch,Comey,Brennan,Powers all said it was Nothing-

Under oath
DNI James Clapper said: “I never saw any direct empirical evidence that the Trump campaign or anyone in it was conspiring with the Russians to meddle in the election.”

Assistant Attorney General for National Security Mary McCord,
Attorney General Loretta Lynch,
Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates


ALL under oath said there was nothing. So obama was protecting trump in your weird world?
 

Nutty Cortez

Dummy (D) NY
Mueller has evidence of Trump campaign and Russia colluding (secret or illegal cooperation in order to cheat or deceive others). Read the Mueller Report.
The Trump campaign had over 120 contacts with the Russians including the Trump Tower meeting.

Collusion is not in the criminal statutes.
Conspiracy is.

Mueller found collusion, but could not meet the higher standard for CONSPIRACY.
Read what is needed to make a criminal charge of conspiracy....at the link.


UNDER OATH: House Intelligence Committee, conducted on September 8, 2017, Susan Rice admitted there 'wasn't anything smoking' that showed the Trump campaign had helped with Russia's election meddling.

'I don't recall intelligence that I would consider evidence to that effect... prior to my departure,' she stated.

UNDER OATH: AG Loretta Lynch stated that she 'could not say' whether evidence of collusion, coordination or conspiracy existed when she gave her interview on October 20, 2017.

UNDER OATH: Director of National Intelligence James Clapper stated: 'I never saw any direct empirical evidence that the Trump campaign or someone in it was plotting/conspiring with the Russians to meddle with the election.


This is all you need to know. The 3 year fishing expedition was a waste of your time.
No Matter what MSNBC & CNN instruct you to feel.

Give up. Enjoy your life. The media wasted 3 years of your life. And you let them
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
Obamagate Update: Brennan praises Durham


Former CIA Director John Brennan says he is willing to be interviewed by John Durham, the U.S. attorney from Connecticut investigating the origins of the Russia probe, while maintaining that he has “nothing to hide.”

Brennan, speaking with MSNBC, said he has yet to be contacted by Durham but said he would appear for an interview with him and his team of investigators.

“I feel very good that my tenure at CIA and my time at the White House during the Obama administration ... that I was not engaged in any type of wrongdoing or activities that cause me to worry about what this investigation may uncover,” Brennan said Friday. “So, I welcome the opportunity to talk with the investigators....

...Brennan called Durham a “well-respected individual from the Justice Department.”



Complete text: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/brennan-says-hes-willing-to-be-interviewed-by-durham-has-nothing-to-hide


See there? No worries....It's all good.

:)
That's not Obamagate.
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
That's not Obamagate.
I beg to differ:

Brennan’s comments come amid widespread speculation about the status of Durham's probe, especially after the Justice Department moved to dismiss the case against former national security adviser Michael Flynn amid concerns about the handling of his FBI interview.

Durham is investigating the origins of the FBI’s original Russia probe, which began in July 2016, through the presidential transition period and the appointment of former Special Counsel Robert Mueller.

Last week, a list of top Obama administration officials who purportedly requested to “unmask” the identity of Flynn during the presidential transition period was declassified and released to the public.
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
UNDER OATH: House Intelligence Committee, conducted on September 8, 2017, Susan Rice admitted there 'wasn't anything smoking' that showed the Trump campaign had helped with Russia's election meddling.

'I don't recall intelligence that I would consider evidence to that effect... prior to my departure,' she stated.

UNDER OATH: AG Loretta Lynch stated that she 'could not say' whether evidence of collusion, coordination or conspiracy existed when she gave her interview on October 20, 2017.

UNDER OATH: Director of National Intelligence James Clapper stated: 'I never saw any direct empirical evidence that the Trump campaign or someone in it was plotting/conspiring with the Russians to meddle with the election.


This is all you need to know. The 3 year fishing expedition was a waste of your time.
No Matter what MSNBC & CNN instruct you to feel.

Give up. Enjoy your life. The media wasted 3 years of your life. And you let them
So I read Susan Rice's testimony. You got nothing.

MS. RICE: So, to repeat the question, do I recalt seeing any intelligence
prior to my separation from government that indicated or suggested that Donald
Trump per se conspired with Russia?
MR. GOWDY: To interfere with or influence the 2016 election.
MS. RICE: I don't recall intelligence that I would consider evidence to that
effect that I saw prior - of conspiracy prior to my departure.
MR. GOWDY: Now, it could just be the way I'm hearing it and not the way
that you're saying it, but you emphasized one of the words in that sentence. You
emphasized the word "intelligence."
MS. RICE: lsn't that what you asked?

What follows is mostly blacked out. LOL


Trump had his campaign people do the colluding with Russia. He kept his small hands clean.

I'm not bothering to check the rest of your claims from released testimony....because the investigation was conducted by Mueller. Read his report.
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
I beg to differ:

Brennan’s comments come amid widespread speculation about the status of Durham's probe, especially after the Justice Department moved to dismiss the case against former national security adviser Michael Flynn amid concerns about the handling of his FBI interview.

Durham is investigating the origins of the FBI’s original Russia probe, which began in July 2016, through the presidential transition period and the appointment of former Special Counsel Robert Mueller.

Last week, a list of top Obama administration officials who purportedly requested to “unmask” the identity of Flynn during the presidential transition period was declassified and released to the public.
Unmasking requests are a routine part of intelligence work, and there's no evidence that the requests were made for political purposes. The National Security Agency said in its declassified memo disclosing the names that all of the officials had the authority to view the reports and the NSA's standard procedures were followed.

In the NSA foreign intelligence reports, the names of Americans are redacted, or "masked." Certain authorized US officials have the authority to request the names of those individuals if they have a justifiable reason. As a result, when the officials made the unmasking requests declassified on Wednesday, they wouldn't have known whether Flynn was the individual whose identity was redacted.
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
Boy, this is rich. Coming from the person that screamed collusion with zero evidence whatsoever and that after Mueller and 53 witnesses in Congress all testified there was none said it is out there "If someone will just go looking".

ROFL. This is why you get made fun of. It's clown posting.

It's odd people on the left would object to "Not exonerated".....It's their term.

:D
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
Unmasking requests are a routine part of intelligence work, and there's no evidence that the requests were made for political purposes. The National Security Agency said in its declassified memo disclosing the names that all of the officials had the authority to view the reports and the NSA's standard procedures were followed.

In the NSA foreign intelligence reports, the names of Americans are redacted, or "masked." Certain authorized US officials have the authority to request the names of those individuals if they have a justifiable reason. As a result, when the officials made the unmasking requests declassified on Wednesday, they wouldn't have known whether Flynn was the individual whose identity was redacted.

Whether or not President Obama did something nefarious or not is something I cannot say with certainty, any more than you can. That's why I'm fine with it being investigated, and investigated every bit as vigorously as the "Russian collusion" claim was.

It's all good. Let the chips fall where they may.

:)
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
Whether or not President Obama did something nefarious or not is something I cannot say with certainty, any more than you can. That's why I'm fine with it being investigated, and investigated every bit as vigorously as the "Russian collusion" claim was.

It's all good. Let the chips fall where they may.
You've had 8 years plus to observe Obama. Trust your own judgment and not Trump's.
 
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JackDallas

Senator
Supporting Member
That's being called into question:

President Trump's spy chief is reportedly declassifying information that shows CIA Director John Brennan "suppressed" intelligence on Russia wanting Hillary Clinton to win the 2016 election.


Try to keep up...
It will be a happy day when John Brennan goes to prison.
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
I do.

That's why I think a thorough investigation is a wonderful idea.

I like transparency.
Then you'll be calling for a thorough investigation of the 16+ women who've accused Trump of sexual harassment, sexual assault.
Because you like transparency and a thorough investigation is a wonderful idea.
 

JackDallas

Senator
Supporting Member
We’ll all see how it plays out in a few months smartie. Until then, you guys can keep jerking each other off with each new “blockbuster deep state” gem churned out by your media turd cutters and make the same 3 year old claims about the heinous crimes committed by all of your imagined enemies. Like the Sundance Kid said “That’s what you’re good at Butch”. But it’s all just a bunch of hot smelly air, a fart in the wind. I can hardly wait for the next blockbuster installment.

Cheers
I don't expect that Obama will ever be held accountable (by the American jurisprudence system) for his crimes against the American people. But my hope is that karma will come around to visit him one day and his bill will come due.
 
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