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Biden & Ukraine’s Poroshenko Phone Call Leaked; $1 Billion “Quid Pro Quo” Discussed

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Got it...due diligence!

Same thing President Trump did before sending a half billion dollars over there until he was satisfied the new president wasn't another crook.

Go ahead tell us that's different.
The Pentagon had already vetted the Ukrainian military use of US funds. Congress had reviewed the Pentagon report and had allocated the funds. Trump's hold was illegal because he didn't inform congress.

Add to that the fact that after putting the funds on hold and postponing the WH visit by Zelensky...he tells Zelensky that if he wants to buy missiles we want a favor....
 

Boca

Governor
The Pentagon had already vetted the Ukrainian military use of US funds. Congress had reviewed the Pentagon report and had allocated the funds. Trump's hold was illegal because he didn't inform congress.

Add to that the fact that after putting the funds on hold and postponing the WH visit by Zelensky...he tells Zelensky that if he wants to buy missiles we want a favor....
Yep, on June 18, the Pentagon announced it was going to release the funding to Ukraine. And on Sept. 28, 2018, Congress appropriated the $250 million in military aid.

But, the unknown unvetted comedian Zelensky took office in May, 2019.

Like I said....due dilligence.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Yep, on June 18, the Pentagon announced it was going to release the funding to Ukraine. And on Sept. 28, 2018, Congress appropriated the $250 million in military aid.

But, the unknown unvetted comedian Zelensky took office in May, 2019.

Like I said....due dilligence.
So why did Trump need that favor in return for selling missiles?

The fact is that the Pentagon vetted Ukrainian military controls on contracts. They basically certified that money being given to them was well accounted for.
 

EatTheRich

President
There were two open investigations into Burisma. He was preparing to question Biden, the American law firm that represents Burisma here was preparing for that.

If he was corrupt, why is he not in jail? Everyone claims they have evidence of how corrupt he was yet... he is still looking into this and not from a jail cell.

My point is, the same people who have been lying about Russian Collusion for 4 years are the same people going out of there way to show how corrupt this guy is...

I think it's fair to question since our MSM has flushed any credibility they had right into the sewer.

Also, change Hunter Biden to Don Jr. and you have another impeachment, except this time you actually have a guy bragging about it.

The law firm was preparing for questioning because they knew Shokin was on his way out and they might face scrutiny now that he would no longer be there to protect them.
 

EatTheRich

President
Huge difference between withholding money until an announcement of an investigation is made

Which never happened. The aid went out September 11 within the fiscal year.

Too bad you keep forgetting that.
After Trump’s scheme was exposed.
 
As I said before...there were no ACTIVE investigations.

“Changes to the board of Burisma Limited, which are currently the object of international attention, took place only in May 2014, and therefore are not and never were the subject of (the anti-corruption bureau’s) investigation,” the bureau’s statement said.

Why isn't Shokin in jail? I don't know...why isn't the CEO of Burisma? If Biden got Shokin fired to stop the investigations...why didn't they close in 2016? Instead they went on until 2017...

Just like when Trump fired Comey. Did the investigation stop?
You continue to be wrong.
 
The law firm was preparing for questioning because they knew Shokin was on his way out and they might face scrutiny now that he would no longer be there to protect them.
Oh, so Hunter Biden gave a deposition regarding this? Hunter Biden was questioned by another Ukrainian prosecutor? Without Shokin there "to protect them" he must have been questioned...

Or did that never happen because Shokin was fired...

Inquiring minds want to know
 

EatTheRich

President
Oh, so Hunter Biden gave a deposition regarding this? Hunter Biden was questioned by another Ukrainian prosecutor? Without Shokin there "to protect them" he must have been questioned...

Or did that never happen because Shokin was fired...

Inquiring minds want to know
No, it never happened because they aggressively investigated him but found no indication he had broken any law.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Yep, on June 18, the Pentagon announced it was going to release the funding to Ukraine. And on Sept. 28, 2018, Congress appropriated the $250 million in military aid.

But, the unknown unvetted comedian Zelensky took office in May, 2019.

Like I said....due dilligence.
And the unvetted moron Trump took office in January 2017...so?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
The law firm was preparing for questioning because they knew Shokin was on his way out and they might face scrutiny now that he would no longer be there to protect them.
I found nothing at all about a law firm prepping Hunter for any questioning by Ukrainian investigators.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Dadgummit I thought I had shown, rather proved to you, how CNN played around with the call transcript to make it look that way.

If not let me know and I'll dig around and get it to you.
I blew that argument out of the water a long time ago. Your point was "look at how many words there are in the transcript between do us a favor and when he said anything about Biden". The problem there is that once you remove Zelensky's response...there is about six sentences to "and the other thing" where he tells Zelensky he wants him to investigate Biden. In between he talked about why Rudy would be a good guy to help him do it....

I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows alot about it. I would like you to find out what happened withthis whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike ... I guess you have one of your wealthy people... The server, they say Ukraine has.it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation .. I think you're surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to ·get to the bottom of it. As you saw yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller, an incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do, ·it's very important that you do it if that's possible.

Good because I· heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that's really unfair. A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved. Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the_mayor of New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great. The former ambassador from the United $tates, the woman, was badnews and the people she was dealing with in the Ukraine were bad news so I just want to let you know that.

The other thing,There's a lot of talk about Biden's son,. that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it ... It sounds horrible to me.
 
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