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Biden & Ukraine’s Poroshenko Phone Call Leaked; $1 Billion “Quid Pro Quo” Discussed

Boca

Governor
I gave you the "transcript" of what Trump said. Feel free to show where CNN changed his words...if you can.
Here ya go again

.....the transcript as reported by CNN: “I would like you to do us a favor… There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it… It sounds horrible to me.”

National Public Radio (NPR) also skipped over more than 500 words of the transcript to tie “favor” to the later part of the conversation mentioning Biden, all to suggest Trump demanded foreign meddling in the U.S. election.

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Bugsy McGurk

President
Here ya go again

.....the transcript as reported by CNN: “I would like you to do us a favor… There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it… It sounds horrible to me.”

National Public Radio (NPR) also skipped over more than 500 words of the transcript to tie “favor” to the later part of the conversation mentioning Biden, all to suggest Trump demanded foreign meddling in the U.S. election.

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One wonders if Trump and his cultists will ever stop falsely describing it as a “transcript.”
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
One wonders if Trump and his cultists will ever stop falsely describing it as a “transcript.”
Several above call it a transcript. Now they're all Trump supporters?

What word do you use to describe the action of listening to the words of a speaker and putting them to paper...to maintain a record that is concurrently reviewed and assesesed by others?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Several above call it a transcript. Now they're all Trump supporters?

What word do you use to describe the action of listening to the words of a speaker and putting them to paper...to maintain a record that is concurrently reviewed and assesesed by others?
Why does the official copy say "CAUTION: A memorandum of a telephone conversation is not a transcript of a discussion. The text in this document records the notes and recollections of Situation Room Duty Officers"? A transcript is the verbatim recorded conversation...word for word.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Here ya go again

.....the transcript as reported by CNN: “I would like you to do us a favor… There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it… It sounds horrible to me.”

National Public Radio (NPR) also skipped over more than 500 words of the transcript to tie “favor” to the later part of the conversation mentioning Biden, all to suggest Trump demanded foreign meddling in the U.S. election.

One more
Are you kidding? Clearly the investigation into the Ukrainian company "Crowdstrike" and the investigation into Joe Biden were both part of the "FAVOR" Trump was asking for....nothing in the edited part of the call changes that, and that is the point. Nothing CNN did changed the meaning of what Trump said. Although it does make Trump seem a little less incoherent.
 

Boca

Governor
Are you kidding? Clearly the investigation into the Ukrainian company "Crowdstrike" and the investigation into Joe Biden were both part of the "FAVOR" Trump was asking for....nothing in the edited part of the call changes that, and that is the point. Nothing CNN did changed the meaning of what Trump said. Although it does make Trump seem a little less incoherent.
Not clear at all...it's your opinion.

If it were clear then explain why CNN, MSNBC, and NPR pulled a fast one and you fell for it.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Ha, ha...you ain't as slick as you seem to think you are.

If a person says, the other thing, or another thing, they are unequivocally expressing a change of thought. In this case it's crystal clear he first sought help, if possible, from Zelensky in regards to the issues in the 2017 time period and before. i.e Crowdstrike, the server, the Mueller report, "there are a lot of things that went on"......, "I would like you to get to the bottom of it. " All of it domestic issues.

The other thing, in a different time period, the here and now period, 2019. "There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that...." and why shouldn't people want to find out?

No mention of aid funds being held. No demand, no threat....no quid-pro-quo. That was simply invented by your Democrat leadership and their partners in the media

Last but not least, the transcript I'm reading from was CNN's. And it leads with this incredible lie.

President Donald Trump repeatedly pushed for Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelensky to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden, and his son, Hunter, during a July 25 phone call, according to a transcript of the conversation released by the White House. What else would you expect from CNN?

What I don't understand is why left leaning puppets aren't up in arms about being lied to daily since November , 2016?. They would if their spouse did.
1. It isn't a transcript, as is clearly stated at the bottom of the first page.
2. Trump mentioned Biden as "the other thing" as part of his requested "Favor".
3. Trump told Zelensky that Biden was bragging about stopping the investigation..which was a lie...and then you admit the investigation wasn't ended until Burisma was fined for tax evasion in 2017...If Biden stopped the investigation...please explain why it continued for another year or so....
4. Before the hold on aid was released Zelensky was being coached by Sonderland and Giuliani on what to say in an interview on CNN....related to announcing an investigation into Biden. When the news of the phone call hit the news Zelensky canceled the interview.
5. Trump was advised by the State Department and the Pentagon that his hold on a congressional appropriation was illegal.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Not clear at all...it's your opinion.

If it were clear then explain why CNN, MSNBC, and NPR pulled a fast one and you fell for it.
"pulled a fast one" is your opinion...Did Trump ask Zelensky to announce an investigation into his probable rival in the 2020 election? Is Crowdstrike a Ukrainian company? Is it owned by a wealthy Ukrainian? Did Biden ever brag about stopping an investigation? Did Biden have the authority to stop a loan guarantee? No...he was following the instructions of the president.

Was Trump advised that his hold on a congressional appropriation was illegal?
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
Why does the official copy say "CAUTION: A memorandum of a telephone conversation is not a transcript of a discussion. The text in this document records the notes and recollections of Situation Room Duty Officers"? A transcript is the verbatim recorded conversation...word for word.
Ok memorandum. What's the issue? Weve read it, heard audio of it
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Several above call it a transcript. Now they're all Trump supporters?

What word do you use to describe the action of listening to the words of a speaker and putting them to paper...to maintain a record that is concurrently reviewed and assesesed by others?
Nope. Trump lies creep into the consciousness of all Americans, with many repeating his claim that a document that says it is NOT a transcript is a transcript.
 

EatTheRich

President
Really? Who told you he was aggressively investigated? I will need a link.

I will wait to be proved wrong, but as far as I can tell:

1) Hunter Biden was going to be questioned regarding Burisma

2) When Shokin was fired that went away. I can find nothing online that states Hunter Biden was ever questioned or investigated regarding this outside of Shokin preparing to question him.

You claim Shokin was protecting Burisma, but when he was fired and made to go away, so did the threat of Hunter Biden being deposed.
The investigation was “dormant” under Shokin. No one in Ukraine has ever alleged wrongdoing by Hunter Biden.
Ha, ha...you ain't as slick as you seem to think you are.

If a person says, the other thing, or another thing, they are unequivocally expressing a change of thought. In this case it's crystal clear he first sought help, if possible, from Zelensky in regards to the issues in the 2017 time period and before. i.e Crowdstrike, the server, the Mueller report, "there are a lot of things that went on"......, "I would like you to get to the bottom of it. " All of it domestic issues.

The other thing, in a different time period, the here and now period, 2019. "There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that...." and why shouldn't people want to find out?

No mention of aid funds being held. No demand, no threat....no quid-pro-quo. That was simply invented by your Democrat leadership and their partners in the media

Last but not least, the transcript I'm reading from was CNN's. And it leads with this incredible lie.

President Donald Trump repeatedly pushed for Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelensky to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden, and his son, Hunter, during a July 25 phone call, according to a transcript of the conversation released by the White House. What else would you expect from CNN?

What I don't understand is why left leaning puppets aren't up in arms about being lied to daily since November , 2016?. They would if their spouse did.
He repeatedly pushed in the material you quoted, and it was all in the context of Ukraine wanting the aid.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
Nope. Trump lies creep into the consciousness of all Americans, with many repeating his claim that a document that says it is NOT a transcript is a transcript.
I don't care if you call it a folk take carved in tree bark. MV called it a transcript above...go assail him.

What was said was said, it is recorded....
 

Boca

Governor
It's been fun. But no point wasting more time on obstinate losers. It's all over, it's moot and the attempt failed miserably as most things Democrat do.

Acquitted....
 
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middleview

President
Supporting Member
Yes. I'm confident enough that I don't need to call every person present who 'wrote it down" liars
What makes you think "every person present" wrote it down? That isn't what the first page says...it was the "recollection" of the duty officer...who knows if he took notes or just wrote a memo later.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
I don't care if you call it a folk take carved in tree bark. MV called it a transcript above...go assail him.

What was said was said, it is recorded....
Nope. He put the word “transcript” in quotes and noted above that it is NOT a transcript, as did I.

I would love to hear the recording. Trump should release it.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
What makes you think "every person present" wrote it down? That isn't what the first page says...it was the "recollection" of the duty officer...who knows if he took notes or just wrote a memo later.
Wasn't there testimony that indicated that there were numerous persons whose task it is to write down what was said and then collaborate with one another in there with you to ensure that the essence of what was said was captured accurately?

Why yes. There was NHS staff present whose job it was to write down.

 
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