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More Voter Suppression Is Needed, Not Less

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condorkristy

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The laws being proposed by Republicans are necessary. There only problem is they are too weak, and don't go far enough to suppress votes. Biden and the Democrat scammers know they can't compete in a fair, legal election, so they have embarked on a campaign to supercharge their age-old method of election cheating, by recruiting ineligible to vote people (illegal aliens), and stuffing ballot boxes with their illegal votes. They are also busing illegals all over the country, so various states can get more Democrat votes.

These votes need to be suppressed, by requiring citizenship ID to vote, and strong safeguards to guard against falsification. Thus, voter suppression is the # 1 thing that is necessary to restore American democracy, which has been shattered in the fraudulent 2020 "election."
Your sentiment is completely anti-American. Its not a surprise.
 

Spamature

President
MY AZ recount ? Didn't know I had one.
California is irrelevant. Trump lost California in 2016, and the election was already over in Trump's favor before California's votes even finished counting. Same thing in 2020.
THEN THERE WAS THE FRAUD.
You never advocated for a recount in AZ, you were fine with the results ?
Out of all of that alleged fraud. Which would have been fixed with voter ID ?
 

protectionist

Governor
So you are whining that Democratic mail in voters outnumbered the same day Republican voters, and their votes should not be counted.



I have no idea what this graphic means. Likely it is not what you think it means.


This sounds very untrue and improbable. Are you telling me Republican official in the state of Pennsylvania are silent about 750K votes appearing in the system out of nowhere ? Not buying it. They have to be matched to voters on the voter rolls and their signatures and that person must not have voted in other way.


I assume that error was corrected in the recount, right ?




And ? I saw your mob on Jan 6th. I would not blame them for not wanting to run into that.



You are ignoring the fact that Trump told them not to trust mail in voting and to vote in person. They can do one or the other but not both.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/pennsylvania-poll-watcher-we-literally-had-no-input-and-no-ability-watch
So ? I suppose the state elections board had another opinion on the importance of Mr Shestokas observation and the validity of the votes.



And they were never found ?

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/whistleblowers-allege-thousands-vanished-ballots-allegations-backdating?utm_source=breaking-newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter


Gregory Stenstrom claims he saw a Dominion Voting Systems vendor inserting flash drives into voting aggregation machines in Delaware County, and co-mingling flash drives from aggregation machines, possibly hurting the ability of auditors to properly certify results, according to a Pennsylvania legislature hearing.


Wait, you're whining about a state you won ?




She used Q in here SCOTUS filing.



This is the guy who backtracked on that allegation on video, right ?



And then they counted them, right ?

https://newstalk1130.iheart.com/featured/common-sense-central/content/2020-11-16-disability-service-coordinator-blows-whistle-on-vote-fraud-in-group-homes/?Sc=editorial&Pname=local_social&Keyid=socialflow
1 one elderly person claims they were forced to vote for Biden ?





You mean how Trump told his voters to mail in their ballots and then go vote in person ?


Anyway most of this stuff was debunked including your postal driver

Stop lying. I didn't say "Democratic mail in voters outnumbered the same day Republican voters," YOU said that. I said >>
"A statistical analysis of New York Times data in Philadelphia claims a suspicious string of voting “ratios” benefitting Biden, as also happened in Georgia. By 11pm Election Day, Trump was leading Biden by about 285,000 votes. Then, 347,768 votes from somewhere dumped into the system in 44 batches in increments of approximately 6,000, 12,000, or 18,000 additional net votes for Biden. As a result, Biden came back from an election night deficit of 285,000 to a 46,000 vote win four days later."
Since you are not engaging in this discussion HONESTLY, I have no desire to participate with your DISHONESTY. You are disqualified. As a result, all your posts are moot nothing.

And you know perfectly well what the graphic means. It shows the details of the vote fabricating for Biden in Pennsylvania ,as reported even by a liberal newspaper, the New York Times.

I don't know what you're talking about regarding "750K votes" Here's what you should be talking about >> New York Times Election Report Reveals 104,984 Stolen Votes in Ga, 347,768 in PA


No point in going further here. You're not addressing my posts about the fraud; you're just spinning that's all. You asked for proof of the frauds. You got it, and so does anybody else who wants to see it, and LOTS of it. Post #s 260, 261, 262, 263, 264, 267.
More BS from you. The postal driver claimed he was not debunked, nor did he recant. That was another Democrat lie. See what happens when you listen to Democrat fake news liars like the Washington Post ?

 

protectionist

Governor
58 other election security experts, has signed a statement affirming that the 2020 presidential election was technologically secure. Another signatory is Edward Felten, who holds an endowed professorship in computer science and public affairs at the University.
This farce is a drop in the bucket, compared to what I posted in post #s 260-267.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
And I support fight any and every effort they make in this direction.

We both know this will not be the end of it. Because they only end they seek is to gain and / or preserve their political power. As soon as you give throw your hands up on the point shaving. You can be guaranteed they will come up with something else until they create a system where they can't lose.
Like making dc a State? Is that creating a system...
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Do you realize how extensive the 2020 election fraud was ? Do you know what you're asking ? It could take you a week (or more) to read through even just a partial list of it all (if you do it right, clicking the links and sub links)

Ok - you asked, but the answer is too large for PJ to accomodate in one post, so it will have to be posted covering a series of posts >>

Arizona
An anonymous email sent to the Justice Department criminal division and Arizona legislature alleged that in Pima County, 35,000 votes were fraudulently embedded in advance of the election on behalf of each Democratic candidate at the local and federal level. The allegation coincides with a spike or "injection" of 143,000 votes noted at 8:06 p.m. on election night.

According to the email, discussed at a hearing, Pima County Democrats held a meeting on Sept. 10, 2020 in which plans were detailed to illegally inject 35,000 votes for each Democrat at the outset in statistically adjusted embeds that could be written off as human error if audited.

There was no proper validation of 1.9 million signatures on mail in ballots.

Dominion machines were connected to the internet, according to a witness at a GOP hearing, raising serious security issues.

A hearing witness states she was instructed to allow people to vote who were not registered in the state, who were not on the voter rolls, who had out of state driver's licenses, who not had been residents long enough, who had not registered in time or who said they were registered in another state. However, pro-Trump voters from other counties were sent away, she says. She also says somebody apparently brought homeless people from outside the precinct in to vote. She also says 13,000 votes, when counted, were unobserved by Republicans.

She says just what she personally observed over five hours in one day impacted approximately 2,000 votes. She also said a poll observer for Democrats from California told her he was there "to help turn this precinct blue... this is one of our problem ones." He told her they were also focusing on Maricopa County.

A Republican Party leader says she watched votes for Trump be changed to or counted for Biden once they were place in the machine. In a lawsuit, she also says in parts of Maricopa County there were not proper safeguards verifying that mail-in ballots came from registered voters. She also says Republicans were not allowed a proper view of the counting process. (More to come from Arizona hearing soon...)

Watch: Arizona hearing

State officials blame “a data error” for conflicting and fluctuating results in one county that dropped the appearance of Biden’s lead by 6,000 votes, and then posted it back again.

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California
Two men are charged with voter fraud after they allegedly submitted more than 8,000 fraudulent voter registration applications for homeless people between July and October 2020.

https://da.lacounty.gov/media/news/pair-charged-voter-fraud
An "anonymous" email is your evidence?

Your link explains the 6,000 vote error and the correction.

The two arrested and charged in CA were submitting false applications for ballots. Not with casting fraudulent votes.

Maricopa county has been subject to three audits now. The machine counts match the hand recounts. So the state hired a Stop the Steal conspiracy guy, gave him all the ballots from Maricopa and a venue to audit it again. Now the "Cyber Ninjas" have filed a motion in court to prevent any oversight or release of any information on how they are conducting the audit. The only reporters allowed access are from OANN.


So a GOP hearing, not a court of law, was held and someone said Dominion systems were connected to the internet and billions of voters from some other planet were allowed to vote. Bullshit. Each precinct has a poll book with the voter for that precinct listed. A person signs the book when they vote. Later that poll book is used by data entry people to update voting records. What do you think would happen when someone goes to update a non-existant voter?

You should volunteer with a campaign or to be a poll worker. Then you wouldn't post stupid stuff.
 

Spamature

President
Stop lying. I didn't say "Democratic mail in voters outnumbered the same day Republican voters," YOU said that. I said >>
"A statistical analysis of New York Times data in Philadelphia claims a suspicious string of voting “ratios” benefitting Biden, as also happened in Georgia. By 11pm Election Day, Trump was leading Biden by about 285,000 votes. Then, 347,768 votes from somewhere dumped into the system in 44 batches in increments of approximately 6,000, 12,000, or 18,000 additional net votes for Biden. As a result, Biden came back from an election night deficit of 285,000 to a 46,000 vote win four days later."
Since you are not engaging in this discussion HONESTLY, I have no desire to participate with your DISHONESTY. You are disqualified. As a result, all your posts are moot nothing.

And you know perfectly well what the graphic means. It shows the details of the vote fabricating for Biden in Pennsylvania ,as reported even by a liberal newspaper, the New York Times.

I don't know what you're talking about regarding "750K votes" Here's what you should be talking about >> New York Times Election Report Reveals 104,984 Stolen Votes in Ga, 347,768 in PA


No point in going further here. You're not addressing my posts about the fraud; you're just spinning that's all. You asked for proof of the frauds. You got it, and so does anybody else who wants to see it, and LOTS of it. Post #s 260, 261, 262, 263, 264, 267.
More BS from you. The postal driver claimed he was not debunked, nor did he recant. That was another Democrat lie. See what happens when you listen to Democrat fake news liars like the Washington Post ?

Yes, I am saying you are whinging because you got out voted.

You said 750K more ballots were returned than were sent out.

From your post:

1.8 million absentee ballots were mailed out for the 2020 election in Pennsylvania, but 2.5 million were counted, according to testimony at a Pennsylvania state hearing.
The man is on video recanting his statement.


Yes, you threw everything you could into this, and it is a great big NOTHING BURGER and nobody but a fool would swallow any of it.

You lost, and now your party wants to cheat to regain power.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Answer Continued >>>


Pennsylvania
Ballots of approximately 1,400 voters illegally listed postal facility addresses as residential. That’s according to Matt Braynard, of Trump’s 2016 election campaign. Braynard also says large percentages of registered Republicans say they voted absentee, while the state data indicates they didn’t.

A statistical analysis of New York Times data in Philadelphia claims a suspicious string of voting “ratios” benefitting Biden, as also happened in Georgia. By 11pm Election Day, Trump was leading Biden by about 285,000 votes. Then, 347,768 votes from somewhere dumped into the system in 44 batches in increments of approximately 6,000, 12,000, or 18,000 additional net votes for Biden. As a result, Biden came back from an election night deficit of 285,000 to a 46,000 vote win four days later.

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1.8 million absentee ballots were mailed out for the 2020 election in Pennsylvania, but 2.5 million were counted, according to testimony at a Pennsylvania state hearing.


One incident recorded on video indicates 2,600 to 2,700 votes were not initially counted, that “ballots didn’t transfer over like they should have.” The voting machine company, Dominion, was troubleshooting, but nobody could explain.


Dominion Voting Systems’ executives canceled a planned appearance at a hearing in Pennsylvania on Nov. 20.

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Registered Republicans requested 165,412 ballots that ultimately were not returned or counted. A statistical analysis determined up to nearly 54,000 ballots were improperly requested by someone other than the registered voter and sent to people who did not request them; and Republicans mailed up to nearly 45,000 ballots that did not ultimately get counted.

Read Declaration

A poll watching attorney in Pittsburgh, David Shestokas, says observers were kept from observing the ballot tabulations, saying the ballots are therefore illegal.

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There were 47 missing USB cards, according to a poll worker.

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A truck driver for a subcontractor with the U.S. Postal Service claims that a trailer he was driving with as many a 288,000 ballots disappeared from its parked location, at a Lancaster, Pa., USPS depot, after he dropped it off. He says he transported them from New York.

Read More

Gregory Stenstrom claims he saw a Dominion Voting Systems vendor inserting flash drives into voting aggregation machines in Delaware County, and co-mingling flash drives from aggregation machines, possibly hurting the ability of auditors to properly certify results, according to a Pennsylvania legislature hearing.

Texas
A social worker at the Mexia State Supported Living Centers in Texas is charged with illegally submitting 67 voter registration applications for people with intellectual and developmental disabilities without signatures or meaningful consent, including some who are not eligible because they are totally mentally incapacitated.

Wisconsin
Affidavits and statistical analyses allege more than 318,000 illegal ballots were counted, 15,000 mail-in ballots were lost, 18,000 were “fraudulently recorded” in the name of voters who never asked for mail-in ballots, 7,000 ineligible voters who had moved out of state voted illegally, Biden over performed in places using Dominion voting machines, and elections officials directed workers to "cure" or fix ballots with no witness address, or with voter certification missing on absentee ballot certificates and envelopes even though the law states such ballots are not to be counted, according to a lawsuit filed by Sidney Powell.

Read Sidney Powell lawsuit

A USPS subcontractor claims he was told the postal service planned. to improperly backdate tens of thousands of ballots after the Nov. 3 election.

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Elections officials twice found batches of missing ballots in voting machines.

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A disability service coordinator who works with adults in assisted living facilities and group homes in and around Milwaukee, says every one of her more than 20 clients told her that they were either pressured to vote for Biden or had a vote cast for Biden before they ever had a chance to see their ballot.

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There were illegally altered and illegally issued absentee ballots; and government officials gave illegal advice to voters. That’s according to a Trump campaign filing.

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So your link to the Disability Service Coordinator named "Susan" doesn't actually name her or the places were the voter interference is supposed to have happened and this info was never used in any court filing....meaning it is hearsay and worthless.

None of the accusations leveled at Dominion matter...Fox, InfoWars, Newsmax and Sydney Powell have all told you there is nothing there.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
So you are whining that Democratic mail in voters outnumbered the same day Republican voters, and their votes should not be counted.



I have no idea what this graphic means. Likely it is not what you think it means.


This sounds very untrue and improbable. Are you telling me Republican official in the state of Pennsylvania are silent about 750K votes appearing in the system out of nowhere ? Not buying it. They have to be matched to voters on the voter rolls and their signatures and that person must not have voted in other way.


I assume that error was corrected in the recount, right ?




And ? I saw your mob on Jan 6th. I would not blame them for not wanting to run into that.



You are ignoring the fact that Trump told them not to trust mail in voting and to vote in person. They can do one or the other but not both.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/pennsylvania-poll-watcher-we-literally-had-no-input-and-no-ability-watch
So ? I suppose the state elections board had another opinion on the importance of Mr Shestokas observation and the validity of the votes.



And they were never found ?

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/whistleblowers-allege-thousands-vanished-ballots-allegations-backdating?utm_source=breaking-newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter


Gregory Stenstrom claims he saw a Dominion Voting Systems vendor inserting flash drives into voting aggregation machines in Delaware County, and co-mingling flash drives from aggregation machines, possibly hurting the ability of auditors to properly certify results, according to a Pennsylvania legislature hearing.


Wait, you're whining about a state you won ?




She used Q in here SCOTUS filing.



This is the guy who backtracked on that allegation on video, right ?



And then they counted them, right ?

https://newstalk1130.iheart.com/featured/common-sense-central/content/2020-11-16-disability-service-coordinator-blows-whistle-on-vote-fraud-in-group-homes/?Sc=editorial&Pname=local_social&Keyid=socialflow
1 one elderly person claims they were forced to vote for Biden ?





You mean how Trump told his voters to mail in their ballots and then go vote in person ?


Anyway most of this stuff was debunked including your postal driver

This is in response to the analysis of election data in Pennsylvania that suggested that republicans had not requested absentee ballots, but someone else did and voted in their names...In fact...that isn't supported by the facts...it is based on data supplied to Miller by the Trump campaign...

 
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