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Fauci lied and half a million died.

middleview

President
Supporting Member
And as the air studies I cited have shown, all the mask wearing was fatuous virtue signalling, because the virus isn't airborne, at least not in concentrations that would make you sick (and especially outdoors).

We kept going through "stages" where you morons insisted all we need to do is give up more of our personal liberties and the disease will be beaten, all all that happened was we lost more of our liberties.

Seriously, where would you expect to encounter more "airborne" virus, in a covid ward of a hospital or a garden party? There is no such thing as a "super spreader event" except in the fevered little minds of you maskscists...
your bullshit about the study has already burned to the ground. 6ft away in a specially ventilated space.....give up.
 

EatTheRich

President

I already posted the scientific reasoning behind thinking were not necessary early on. Fauci changed the recommendation, but Trump didn't...explain that...


There was no scientific reasoning. You certainly in your entire life have NEVER posted anything scientific. You are incapable of that. Fauci just plain LIED about this. He also directed US taxpayer dollars to build that lab.

What would Biden be impeached for? First you have to have a reason...not just cuz you think Trump becomes president then.

For a felony that son of a bitch already admitted to on video. Forget impeachment. He committed a crime and should have been arrested. And Obama should have been arrested for being an accomplice to that.

Using the BLACKMAIL of withholding AMerican taxpayer dollars just to change prosecutors to save his son from investigation.

(Two tiered justice system. A Republican tries this and he's arrested immediately.)
I see this lie never dies.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Yes it does
Gee...could it be that Trump (and the rest of the anti-Fauci morons) lied?

Trump said he won the 2016 popular vote because there were 3 to 5 million fraudulent votes for Hillary. He never proved that and the Pence commission which was supposed to investigate fell apart when it became clear that they couldn't actually prove shit.

Trump claimed complete exoneration from the Mueller report...of course that was a lie also.

He said the phone call with Zelensky was "perfect". Aside from the fact that Biden had just announced he was running and was already ahead in the polls and that Trump was pushing for Ukraine to announce an investigation into Joe Biden as well as the fact that Trump had ordered a hold on military equipment Ukraine needed to fight Russian aggression...Yeah, it was perfect...oh, except for the fact that Trump ordered federal employees to refuse to comply with Congressional subpoenas....which some legal and constitutional experts would call obstruction...

And, of course the dismal claims that the election of 2020 was rigged, that he won as of 8pm on election day (as if all ballots had been counted by then) that his head of Cyber Security was lying when he said there was no attempt to hack systems related to the election (and got fired for disagreeing with Trump)....or the fact that Trump's own AG said there was no significant fraud evident in the election.

And yet you still believe a word out of Trump's pie hole.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
your bullshit about the study has already burned to the ground. 6ft away in a specially ventilated space.....give up.
That was the hospital ward - they also sampled air in Nursing Homes and prisons (oops)! Guess what? Still no viable virus!

Did they measure the air at that distance to prove distancing worked? Nope! They measured at that distance because they felt that is where they would get the most accurate readings. The closer readings could be affected by people fluffing their pillows or just rolling over in bed.

They weren't studying the effectiveness of distancing, or they would have measured the air closer than 1 to 2 meters, and calculated the difference. They wanted to know if the virus was truely airborne - and they didn't want their data skewed by the particles we know are all over the sick persons themselves.

I put their quote (in bold) in my (various) posts. They didn't say "it appears keeping 3 feet away from a sick person will keep you from ingesting aerosolized virus" - they said "according to the obtained results, it is suggested that airborne transmission may not have much effect on this pandemic."

What part of that is so hard for you to understand?

Oh, and good news! I read a study today (out of South America) that claimed to show people who wore masks got the virus at much lower rates than those who didn't! So you can feel free to wear a damn mask to protect yourself, and shut the [Unwelcome language removed] up about me having to wear one to keep you safe!
 
That was the hospital ward - they also sampled air in Nursing Homes and prisons (oops)! Guess what? Still no viable virus!

Did they measure the air at that distance to prove distancing worked? Nope! They measured at that distance because they felt that is where they would get the most accurate readings. The closer readings could be affected by people fluffing their pillows or just rolling over in bed.

They weren't studying the effectiveness of distancing, or they would have measured the air closer than 1 to 2 meters, and calculated the difference. They wanted to know if the virus was truely airborne - and they didn't want their data skewed by the particles we know are all over the sick persons themselves.

I put their quote (in bold) in my (various) posts. They didn't say "it appears keeping 3 feet away from a sick person will keep you from ingesting aerosolized virus" - they said "according to the obtained results, it is suggested that airborne transmission may not have much effect on this pandemic."

What part of that is so hard for you to understand?

Oh, and good news! I read a study today (out of South America) that claimed to show people who wore masks got the virus at much lower rates than those who didn't! So you can feel free to wear a damn mask to protect yourself, and shut the [Unwelcome language removed] up about me having to wear one to keep you safe!
Covid is spread through contact with infected mucous. Which is largely contained by wearing a mask.
 

EatTheRich

President
That was the hospital ward - they also sampled air in Nursing Homes and prisons (oops)! Guess what? Still no viable virus!

Did they measure the air at that distance to prove distancing worked? Nope! They measured at that distance because they felt that is where they would get the most accurate readings. The closer readings could be affected by people fluffing their pillows or just rolling over in bed.

They weren't studying the effectiveness of distancing, or they would have measured the air closer than 1 to 2 meters, and calculated the difference. They wanted to know if the virus was truely airborne - and they didn't want their data skewed by the particles we know are all over the sick persons themselves.

I put their quote (in bold) in my (various) posts. They didn't say "it appears keeping 3 feet away from a sick person will keep you from ingesting aerosolized virus" - they said "according to the obtained results, it is suggested that airborne transmission may not have much effect on this pandemic."

What part of that is so hard for you to understand?

Oh, and good news! I read a study today (out of South America) that claimed to show people who wore masks got the virus at much lower rates than those who didn't! So you can feel free to wear a damn mask to protect yourself, and shut the [Unwelcome language removed] up about me having to wear one to keep you safe!
Not getting the virus is also a way of protecting others. Anyway, you have one cherry-picked study that you seem to want to pretend refutes the bulk of the research.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
That was the hospital ward - they also sampled air in Nursing Homes and prisons (oops)! Guess what? Still no viable virus!

Did they measure the air at that distance to prove distancing worked? Nope! They measured at that distance because they felt that is where they would get the most accurate readings. The closer readings could be affected by people fluffing their pillows or just rolling over in bed.

They weren't studying the effectiveness of distancing, or they would have measured the air closer than 1 to 2 meters, and calculated the difference. They wanted to know if the virus was truely airborne - and they didn't want their data skewed by the particles we know are all over the sick persons themselves.

I put their quote (in bold) in my (various) posts. They didn't say "it appears keeping 3 feet away from a sick person will keep you from ingesting aerosolized virus" - they said "according to the obtained results, it is suggested that airborne transmission may not have much effect on this pandemic."

What part of that is so hard for you to understand?

Oh, and good news! I read a study today (out of South America) that claimed to show people who wore masks got the virus at much lower rates than those who didn't! So you can feel free to wear a damn mask to protect yourself, and shut the [Unwelcome language removed] up about me having to wear one to keep you safe!
you just keep making shit up...I've been vaccinated. I worry more about morons who refuse to wear masks and won't get vaccinated becoming hosts for new versions of covid.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
That was the hospital ward - they also sampled air in Nursing Homes and prisons (oops)! Guess what? Still no viable virus!

Did they measure the air at that distance to prove distancing worked? Nope! They measured at that distance because they felt that is where they would get the most accurate readings. The closer readings could be affected by people fluffing their pillows or just rolling over in bed.

They weren't studying the effectiveness of distancing, or they would have measured the air closer than 1 to 2 meters, and calculated the difference. They wanted to know if the virus was truely airborne - and they didn't want their data skewed by the particles we know are all over the sick persons themselves.

I put their quote (in bold) in my (various) posts. They didn't say "it appears keeping 3 feet away from a sick person will keep you from ingesting aerosolized virus" - they said "according to the obtained results, it is suggested that airborne transmission may not have much effect on this pandemic."

What part of that is so hard for you to understand?

Oh, and good news! I read a study today (out of South America) that claimed to show people who wore masks got the virus at much lower rates than those who didn't! So you can feel free to wear a damn mask to protect yourself, and shut the [Unwelcome language removed] up about me having to wear one to keep you safe!
It’s amazing that so many millions of people got sick (or died) inhaling “nonviable virus.”

;-)
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
It’s amazing that so many millions of people got sick (or died) inhaling “nonviable virus.”

;-)
The fact is scince has no (real) idea hpw contageous diseases spread. You believe it is from breathing aerosolized particles? Fine, go wear a mask! I saw a recent study out of South America that suggests masks protect the WEARER! Hallaluja! You no longer have to be an authoritarian maskhole about it. Just put your mask on and shut the f*ck up about it!
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
you just keep making shit up...I've been vaccinated. I worry more about morons who refuse to wear masks and won't get vaccinated becoming hosts for new versions of covid.
So you expect to exhert your authoritarian assholism over everyone for, like what, ever? What a shock!

Seriously, "science" now says masks protect the wearer so we're good - it was always illogical to me how masks were supposed to keep the aerosolized virus "in" if it didn't keep it out, but we no longer have to wonder about that.

Now you can wear your mask to protect yourself and stop worrying what others are doing. Unless, of course, this was never about the "need" to "protect others" and (as I suspected) was ALWAYS about forcing us all to kneel at the alter of your Marxist ideology. I'm going to predict you will still be demanding we all wear the stupid masks, am I right?
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Covid is spread through contact with infected mucous. Which is largely contained by wearing a mask.
Well, if my mask gets polluted with my "infected mucus" and then I fuss with it all day long and then use the hands that just touched my mask to serve you your coffee cup, how exactly is that "containing" it?
 
Well, if my mask gets polluted with my "infected mucus" and then I fuss with it all day long and then use the hands that just touched my mask to serve you your coffee cup, how exactly is that "containing" it?
What are you trying to argue here?
That we shouldn't wear masks because some people are too stupid to do it effectively?
That is not a logical argument at all.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
What are you trying to argue here?
That we shouldn't wear masks because some people are too stupid to do it effectively?
That is not a logical argument at all.
Actually, that is exactly what it is. One guy (or gal) doing that negates a billion uninfected people wearing masks (correctly). This isn't rocket science.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Not getting the virus is also a way of protecting others. Anyway, you have one cherry-picked study that you seem to want to pretend refutes the bulk of the research.
There were multiple (similar) studies with (similar) results. By "bulk of the research" I assume you mean "conventional wisdom" - you know like the whole "suggestions that the virus escaped from a lab is a conspiracy theory" "consensus?"
 
Actually, that is exactly what it is. One guy (or gal) doing that negates a billion uninfected people wearing masks (correctly). This isn't rocket science.
No, sinking to the level of idiots who can't figure out a simple task liking wearing a mask is not going to end the pandemic and restore life to normal. If you want the pandemic to end you have the raise the bar for idiots, Stop catering to them.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
No, sinking to the level of idiots who can't figure out a simple task liking wearing a mask is not going to end the pandemic and restore life to normal. If you want the pandemic to end you have the raise the bar for idiots, Stop catering to them.
And right there, ladies and gentlemen, in a nut shell, demonstrates the precise reason why soialist policies always (ALWAYS) fail. In order for sicialist policies to work, you need to "raise the bar for idiots." Does anyone know of any real world examples where that has ever worked? Anyone? Bueller?
 

Spamature

President
And as the air studies I cited have shown, all the mask wearing was fatuous virtue signalling, because the virus isn't airborne, at least not in concentrations that would make you sick (and especially outdoors).

We kept going through "stages" where you morons insisted all we need to do is give up more of our personal liberties and the disease will be beaten, all all that happened was we lost more of our liberties.

Seriously, where would you expect to encounter more "airborne" virus, in a covid ward of a hospital or a garden party? There is no such thing as a "super spreader event" except in the fevered little minds of you maskscists...
Yes you selfish ****s. You were asked to give up some of your so-called "freedoms" in order to protect each other until there was a vaccine. Instead, your ilk killed people, and you have no remorse or regret for hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths in this country that selfishness caused.

Deplorable !
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Yes you selfish ****s. You were asked to give up some of your so-called "freedoms" in order to protect each other until there was a vaccine. Instead, your ilk killed people, and you have no remorse or regret for hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths in this country that selfishness caused.

Deplorable !
Apparently you are completely unaware (or ignorant) of the scientific studies that suggest the person/years lost due to the deleterious effects of the widespread use of lockdowns will end up dwarfing those lost to covid-19.
 
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