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The easiest way to sum up the insurrection.

Spamature

President
I'll ask you again, special needs. Why did Clinton do NOTHING to stop 9/11 if he was POTUS and knew it was going to happen in time? Does that make him complicit or not?
That is like asking how come Hubert Hoover didn't stop Pearl Harbor.
He didn't stop it because by law he could not be the POTUS after Jan 20th 2001.
And because the people who perpetrated it weren't even in the country when he was in office.
 

Mick

The Right is always right
He didn't stop it because by law he could not be the POTUS after Jan 20th 2001.
Huh? Are you saying he found out after he became a private citizen or that he found out as President but somehow, someway was unable to increase airline security or go after Bin Laden and Al Queda? Because if neither one was true then he was complicit with a terrorist attack against America if he knew it was coming as you claim.

I'm not sure if you have no problem lying, supporting evil....or just really, really dumb.
 

Mick

The Right is always right
All Bush had to do to stop the attack was continue the Clinton policies. But at what cost?
What policies? Airline security which was at its lowest when Clinton left office? Dismantling AL Queda and getting Bin Laden which Clinton repeatedly refused to do despite numerous Al Queda terrorist attacks against us and our allies over many years under his watch?
 

Addy

Rebuild With Biden!
Another way for the dems to waste time and money instead of doing the job they were elected for such as addressing the border crisis their policies created.
Protecting our democracy is part of their jobs and investigating how white rage or other factors played a part in the Jan 6 insurrection/domestic terrorism.
Polling showed a majority of the public is in favor of it.
I would love to see Trump subpoenaed to testify.
 

Mick

The Right is always right
Protecting our democracy is part of their jobs and investigating how white rage or other factors played a part in the Jan 6 insurrection/domestic terrorism.
White rage? ROFL. You people are psychotic.

Are you willing to have a commission into the causes/reasons for the months long rioting that resulted in billions in damages, thousands of businesses destroyed, thousands wounded and killed and the black rage that fueled it? Or is that shit different and all?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
So why did Clinton do nothing about it?
Clinton tried to take out Bin Laden more than once. If not for a Saudi prince going to Tarnak, Clinton had a tomahawk strike queued up. He'd had Afghan northern alliance fighters tracking Bin Laden.

It is inaccurate, as is your usual, to say Clinton did nothing.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Clinton tried to take out Bin Laden more than once. If not for a Saudi prince going to Tarnak, Clinton had a tomahawk strike queued up. He'd had Afghan northern alliance fighters tracking Bin Laden.

It is inaccurate, as is your usual, to say Clinton did nothing.
Yup. Clinton fired 75 cruise missiles at al Qaeda facilities.

GWB stuck his thumb up his ass as our intel people told him an AQ attack was coming.

The view in Trumplandia? Clinton did nothing and GWB acted to prevent 9/11.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
White rage? ROFL. You people are psychotic.

Are you willing to have a commission into the causes/reasons for the months long rioting that resulted in billions in damages, thousands of businesses destroyed, thousands wounded and killed and the black rage that fueled it? Or is that shit different and all?
Yes...the violence that took place during demonstrations was not encouraged by the president. The DC riot was.

The summer violence was not about overturning the election or interfering with a federal constitutional process in order to overthrow the elected government. The DC riot was.

Yes, that shit is different.

Local law enforcement in every city where there was violence is conducting or has finished investigations. No elected official encouraged the violence. What would you want an independent commission to investigate?

The reasons for the violence are obvious...people saw the demonstrations as cover to loot stores. The demonstrations were motivated by the deaths of unarmed black men and women at the hands of police.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
When did Clinton learn they were going to do this? Bin Laden and Al Quaeda had been engaging in terrorist attacks against the United States and our interests for YEARS under Clinton. Nothing was done over it. Unless you are going to suggest Clinton wasn't President when he knew this then he's complicit.
What attacks were carried out against the US by Al Qaeda during Clinton's watch?

I've seen nothing that would say that Clinton knew that Al Qaeda was planning hijacks. The info I've seen seems to have been discovered in May or June of 2001 when Richard Clarke said that he was running around with his hair on fire trying to warn anyone who'd listen...instead he was demoted. Instead of reporting to the president he reported to Condoleeza.
 

Mick

The Right is always right
Clinton tried to take out Bin Laden more than once.
Clinton had multiple chances to take out Bin Laden and refused to do it. He admitted it. His administration admitted it. This is extensively documented.
You cannot stop lying. Since you claim he knew Bin Laden was going to orchestrate airliner attacks that makes him complicit, yes?
 

Bronwyn

Unapoligetically Republican
Protecting our democracy is part of their jobs and investigating how white rage or other factors played a part in the Jan 6 insurrection/domestic terrorism.
Polling showed a majority of the public is in favor of it.
I would love to see Trump subpoenaed to testify.
White rage? You mean like your ilk show continually? Who feeds you this bs for you to spout like a little teakettle boiling over? There was no "insurrection" or "domestic terrorism". Not like what we see with your BLMANTIFA buddies.
 

Mick

The Right is always right
What attacks were carried out against the US by Al Qaeda during Clinton's watch?
First world trade center bombing, USS Cole were two of which. Are you admitting Clinton knew about imminent airline attacks as President?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Clinton had multiple chances to take out Bin Laden and refused to do it. He admitted it. His administration admitted it. This is extensively documented.
You cannot stop lying. Since you claim he knew Bin Laden was going to orchestrate airliner attacks that makes him complicit, yes?
I did not make the claim that the use of airliners was predicted while Clinton was in office. I believe Richard Clarke had information in May or June timeframe that indicated the intent to hijack airlines.

Clinton did try to take out Bin Laden...why lie?

Bin Laden had been a target for U.S. officials for his role in the 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in Tanzania and Kenya. The U.S. government launched missile strikes in August 1998, but Bin Laden was not injured.


Some have said that Bin Laden was warned by the Pakistanis and left Tarnac just before the strike.

The missile strikes on al-Qaeda's Afghan training camps, aimed at preempting more attacks and killing bin Laden, damaged the installations and inflicted an uncertain number of casualties; however, bin Laden was not present at the time.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
First world trade center bombing, USS Cole were two of which. Are you admitting Clinton knew about imminent airline attacks as President?
1. I know of no link between Bin Laden and the first WTC attack.
2. The USS Cole attack happened and was attributed to Al Qaeda late in 2000. George W. Bush was about to be sworn in and Clinton left office without starting a war to turn over to Bush. Bush decided he didn't need to retaliate.

Now do you remember?

The USS Cole was bombed on October 12th, 2000. The investigation determined members of Al Qaeda planned and executed the attack...that info was available in December 2000.

Clarke wrote in Against All Enemies that in the summer of 2001, the intelligence community was convinced of an imminent attack by al-Qaeda, but could not get the attention of the highest levels of the Bush administration.[20] At July 5, 2001, White House gathering of the FAA, the Coast Guard, the FBI, Secret Service and INS, Clarke said that "something really spectacular is going to happen here, and it's going to happen soon.
 
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Addy

Rebuild With Biden!
White rage? You mean like your ilk show continually? Who feeds you this bs for you to spout like a little teakettle boiling over? There was no "insurrection" or "domestic terrorism". Not like what we see with your BLMANTIFA buddies.
Try taking your blinders off and reading the definition of domestic terrorism.
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE June 15, 2021 FACT SHEET: National Strategy for Countering Domestic Terrorism

Under Federal law, “domestic terrorism” is defined as “activities that involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State; appear to be intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population, to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion, or to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.” The review was rooted in an expert assessment of the domestic terrorism threat provided by the intelligence and law enforcement communities. An unclassified summary of that assessment was released in March so the public could see the key findings. It found that the two most lethal elements of today’s domestic terrorism threat are (1) racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists who advocate for the superiority of the white race and (2) antigovernment or anti-authority violent extremists, such as militia violent extremists.
Fact-Sheet-for-National-Strategy-for-Countering-Domestic-Terrorism.pdf (d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net)

Opinion | Pelosi’s new Jan. 6 select committee is about to collide with ‘white rage’ - The Washington Post
That the committee will engage in a version of the “white rage” debate becomes clear if you read the particulars of the new bill creating it.
Opinion | Pelosi’s new Jan. 6 select committee is about to collide with ‘white rage’ - The Washington Post
 

Spamature

President
Huh? Are you saying he found out after he became a private citizen or that he found out as President but somehow, someway was unable to increase airline security or go after Bin Laden and Al Queda? Because if neither one was true then he was complicit with a terrorist attack against America if he knew it was coming as you claim.

I'm not sure if you have no problem lying, supporting evil....or just really, really dumb.
The attack took place after he became a private citizen. He had protected America on his watch and now his watch has ended. At that point you step into the shadows and let the next guy decide his priorities. Bush's priority was to start a dust up with China rather than deal with M.E. terrorism. Probably because they bailed him out when his oil company went bust.
 

Bronwyn

Unapoligetically Republican
Try taking your blinders off and reading the definition of domestic terrorism.
_______________________________

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE June 15, 2021 FACT SHEET: National Strategy for Countering Domestic Terrorism

Under Federal law, “domestic terrorism” is defined as “activities that involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State; appear to be intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population, to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion, or to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.” The review was rooted in an expert assessment of the domestic terrorism threat provided by the intelligence and law enforcement communities. An unclassified summary of that assessment was released in March so the public could see the key findings. It found that the two most lethal elements of today’s domestic terrorism threat are (1) racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists who advocate for the superiority of the white race and (2) antigovernment or anti-authority violent extremists, such as militia violent extremists.
Fact-Sheet-for-National-Strategy-for-Countering-Domestic-Terrorism.pdf (d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net)

Opinion | Pelosi’s new Jan. 6 select committee is about to collide with ‘white rage’ - The Washington Post
That the committee will engage in a version of the “white rage” debate becomes clear if you read the particulars of the new bill creating it.
Opinion | Pelosi’s new Jan. 6 select committee is about to collide with ‘white rage’ - The Washington Post
Use common sense and figure it out. There was no domestic terrorism.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Use common sense and figure it out. There was no domestic terrorism.
The intent of the rioters on Jan 6th was to terrorize congress into rejecting electors and overturning the election. I'd call the violence domestic terrorism.

So far 31 people have been charged with conspiracy in their participation in the insurrection. Over 500 have been charged with a variety of crimes, including assault on a police officer.

 
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