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The easiest way to sum up the insurrection.

Bronwyn

Unapoligetically Republican
So when are they going to start charging the BLMANTIFA people who were breaking the windows and entered the Capitol?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Clinton had multiple chances to take out Bin Laden and refused to do it. He admitted it. His administration admitted it. This is extensively documented.
You cannot stop lying. Since you claim he knew Bin Laden was going to orchestrate airliner attacks that makes him complicit, yes?
It is dishonest of you to edit the post you are responding to. Unless the size of the post is so large it interferes with the response....just leave it as it was written.
 
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Addy

Rebuild With Biden!
Use common sense and figure it out. There was no domestic terrorism.
It's easy to figure out.. -- the domestic terrorist event on Jan 6 being played out(live) right before our very eyes has been clearly defined.
If they were not there to intimidate many,(using makeshift weapons) to coerce/stop Pence from calling the election for Biden -- what were they there for? Are you ok with the use of violence/destruction/death we witnessed by these domestic terrorist?
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Under Federal law, “domestic terrorism” is defined as “activities that involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State; appear to be intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population, to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion, or to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.”
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FACT SHEET: National Strategy for Countering Domestic Terrorism
In a true democracy, violence cannot be an acceptable mode of seeking political or social change. The U.S. Government is committed to strengthening trust in American democracy and its ability to deliver for the American people, including through relief and opportunity provided by the American Rescue Plan, the American Jobs Plan and the American Families Plan. The U.S. Government will also work to find ways to counter the polarization often fueled by disinformation, misinformation, and dangerous conspiracy theories online, supporting an information environment that fosters healthy democratic discourse.
Fact-Sheet-for-National-Strategy-for-Countering-Domestic-Terrorism.pdf (d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net)
 

Bronwyn

Unapoligetically Republican
It's easy to figure out.. -- the domestic terrorist event on Jan 6 being played out(live) right before our very eyes has been clearly defined.
If they were not there to intimidate many,(using makeshift weapons) to coerce/stop Pence from calling the election for Biden -- what were they there for? Are you ok with the use of violence/destruction/death we witnessed by these domestic terrorist?
___________________________
Under Federal law, “domestic terrorism” is defined as “activities that involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State; appear to be intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population, to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion, or to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.”
__________________________
FACT SHEET: National Strategy for Countering Domestic Terrorism
In a true democracy, violence cannot be an acceptable mode of seeking political or social change. The U.S. Government is committed to strengthening trust in American democracy and its ability to deliver for the American people, including through relief and opportunity provided by the American Rescue Plan, the American Jobs Plan and the American Families Plan. The U.S. Government will also work to find ways to counter the polarization often fueled by disinformation, misinformation, and dangerous conspiracy theories online, supporting an information environment that fosters healthy democratic discourse.
Fact-Sheet-for-National-Strategy-for-Countering-Domestic-Terrorism.pdf (d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net)
Wrong. They were peaceful protesters. Just like BLMANTIFA.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Wrong. They were peaceful protesters. Just like BLMANTIFA.
Who broke those windows? Could it be the guy with the stolen police riot sheild? Who attacked the cops? Maybe the guy who threw the fire extinguisher at them?

500 arrests. Over 100 for assault. over 30 for conspiracy.
 

Bronwyn

Unapoligetically Republican
Who broke those windows? Could it be the guy with the stolen police riot sheild? Who attacked the cops? Maybe the guy who threw the fire extinguisher at them?

500 arrests. Over 100 for assault. over 30 for conspiracy.
Your BLMANTIFA friends.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Your BLMANTIFA friends.
who also seem to belong to the Oath Keepers, Proud Boys and Three Percenters and voted for Trump.

There are dozens facing charges from those three groups. Name two people arrested who belong to BLM or Antifa....make sure you include proof because the one name I know you'll come up with has been banned from BLM rallies.

 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
WTF ?

We watched that sh*t live on Television, and it was streamed around the world. Besides most of the video was recorded by the rioters themselves as it is. Nothing is stopping them from posting all the evidence they have to clear their names.
Yet still nobody charged with "treason?"
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
I don't know - post links to the video and we'll see?
I've seen the video and so have you. You pretend you haven't seen the evidence so why would I spend time as if you actually would fairly evaluate what you see. You haven't to date.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Yet still nobody charged with "treason?"
31 charged with conspiracy, over 100 charged with assault. Treason is a charge leveled against someone who aids the enemy in war time. Sedition would be more likely and as the investigation proceeds that may well happen. Too bad the republicans didn't want to have an independent investigation.
 

Mick

The Right is always right
1. I know of no link between Bin Laden and the first WTC attack.
Al Queda was behind both attacks.

Ramzi Yousef (principal organizer of the 1993 bomnig) spent time at an al-Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan, before beginning in 1991 to plan a bombing attack within the United States. Yousef's uncle Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, who later was considered the principal architect of the September 11 attacks.


Can you not stop lying?

2. The USS Cole attack happened and was attributed to Al Qaeda late in 2000. George W. Bush was about to be sworn in and Clinton left office without starting a war to turn over to Bush. Bush decided he didn't need to retaliate.
Bush hadn't even been elected yet. You cannot stop lying.. The Cole bombing was just one in a series of AlQueda attacks against the U.S. that all throughout Clinton's Presidency. In addition to Cole and 1993 wtc how about the 1998 bombings of the US embassies in Africa that killed hundreds? All these attacks against us over his entire Presidency, you claim he knew an airliner attack was imminent from the same guys, yet he did nothing. Bin Laden spared, no airline security enhancements. Complicit, no?
 

EatTheRich

President
Al Queda was behind both attacks.

Ramzi Yousef (principal organizer of the 1993 bomnig) spent time at an al-Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan, before beginning in 1991 to plan a bombing attack within the United States. Yousef's uncle Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, who later was considered the principal architect of the September 11 attacks.


Can you not stop lying?



Bush hadn't even been elected yet. You cannot stop lying.. The Cole bombing was just one in a series of AlQueda attacks against the U.S. that all throughout Clinton's Presidency. In addition to Cole and 1993 wtc how about the 1998 bombings of the US embassies in Africa that killed hundreds? All these attacks against us over his entire Presidency, you claim he knew an airliner attack was imminent from the same guys, yet he did nothing. Bin Laden spared, no airline security enhancements. Complicit, no?
The embassy bombings were Islamic Jihad, I think. Anyway, it is a matter of record that Bush's NSA, Condoleezza Rice, derided the Clinton administration as being "obsessed with terrorism."
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Al Queda was behind both attacks.

Ramzi Yousef (principal organizer of the 1993 bomnig) spent time at an al-Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan, before beginning in 1991 to plan a bombing attack within the United States. Yousef's uncle Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, who later was considered the principal architect of the September 11 attacks.


Can you not stop lying?



Bush hadn't even been elected yet. You cannot stop lying.. The Cole bombing was just one in a series of AlQueda attacks against the U.S. that all throughout Clinton's Presidency. In addition to Cole and 1993 wtc how about the 1998 bombings of the US embassies in Africa that killed hundreds? All these attacks against us over his entire Presidency, you claim he knew an airliner attack was imminent from the same guys, yet he did nothing. Bin Laden spared, no airline security enhancements. Complicit, no?
Where did I say Clinton knew of a plot to hijack planes? Why lie?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Al Queda was behind both attacks.

Ramzi Yousef (principal organizer of the 1993 bomnig) spent time at an al-Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan, before beginning in 1991 to plan a bombing attack within the United States. Yousef's uncle Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, who later was considered the principal architect of the September 11 attacks.


Can you not stop lying?



Bush hadn't even been elected yet. You cannot stop lying.. The Cole bombing was just one in a series of AlQueda attacks against the U.S. that all throughout Clinton's Presidency. In addition to Cole and 1993 wtc how about the 1998 bombings of the US embassies in Africa that killed hundreds? All these attacks against us over his entire Presidency, you claim he knew an airliner attack was imminent from the same guys, yet he did nothing. Bin Laden spared, no airline security enhancements. Complicit, no?
The WTC bombing was never linked to Bin Laden. The 1998 bombing was and as documented in previous posts, attempts were made to kill him on a number of dates. The info linking Bin Laden to the USS Cole was not certain until December...Clinton had a month before Bush was sworn in. Why didn't Bush strike at Al Qaeda? He had 7 months and didn't even have a principals meeting to discuss terrorism until after 911.
 
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Dawg

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watch the video and get back to us non truthers !

Libs know how to really have an insurrection and kidnap for their Demands!

Minneapolis protesters hold city council vice president 'hostage' to sign list of demands, she says (msn.com)

PRIDE
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
31 charged with conspiracy, over 100 charged with assault. Treason is a charge leveled against someone who aids the enemy in war time. Sedition would be more likely and as the investigation proceeds that may well happen. Too bad the republicans didn't want to have an independent investigation.
31? What happened to "thousands of armed & crazed insurrectionists tried to overthrow the government" narrative? What was this "conspiracy?" Is it even the same one or just a few people in a few small independent "conspiracies' to, say, illegally enter the Capitol Building without authorization? As I already pointed out to you "assault" is "acting or speaking in a threatening manner." What does that even mean? I'll tell you what it means - it means whatever the cops want it to mean. Lets face it, this was certainly some shameful behavior on the part of an obvious minority of the protesters, and not anything like the government threatening "domestic terrorism" you are attempting to make it out to be.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
31? What happened to "thousands of armed & crazed insurrectionists tried to overthrow the government" narrative? What was this "conspiracy?" Is it even the same one or just a few people in a few small independent "conspiracies' to, say, illegally enter the Capitol Building without authorization? As I already pointed out to you "assault" is "acting or speaking in a threatening manner." What does that even mean? I'll tell you what it means - it means whatever the cops want it to mean. Lets face it, this was certainly some shameful behavior on the part of an obvious minority of the protesters, and not anything like the government threatening "domestic terrorism" you are attempting to make it out to be.
Got a link to that post of mine where I said there were thousands of "armed and crazed insurrectionists"?

There were certainly around two thousand who broke into the capitol. Many were armed with weapons ranging from baseball bats and hockey sticks to pitch forks and spears.

You expressed the opinion that assault could be "acting or speaking" in a threatening manner....but in the video of the riot you can clearly see violent and deadly attacks on the police. About 140 officers needed medical care...I'm sure it was just because people talked mean to them. Right?

Was it a minority of the protesters? Yes. Was there intent to stop the count of electors and intimidate congress into overturning the election? Absolutely. If their actions had succeeded would you agree that it was an insurrection?
 
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