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You know what went away after two years?

Wow...I'd guess your previous line of work and probably exposure to syphilis may have an influence on your mind.

You argued that disease is not spread from person to person...a perfectly stupid opinion.
In infants? What are you suggesting? How are you suggesting they contract it when their parents are clean?

I have never had syphilis, no. Not that it is any of your business.

You and your cohort have distorted what I actually said --- yet again - but go ahead with your belief that Covid is a sexually contracted disease - gained by snorting on your partner, no doubt!
 

God of War

Governor
They’ve found cells infected with the virus in the gut. They can give monkeys polio by indirectly exposing them to the feces of infected monkeys.
But did the monkey have exposure to DDT? Or any number of other such things that could open up a pathway from the alimentary canal and into the body. Right. That's the medicine question I saw proposed by a cogent professional. What did you see?
 

EatTheRich

President
But did the monkey have exposure to DDT? Or any number of other such things that could open up a pathway from the alimentary canal and into the body. Right. That's the medicine question I saw proposed by a cogent professional. What did you see?
The alimentary canal is already in the body. People were getting polio before DDT was ever developed.
 

God of War

Governor
The alimentary canal is already in the body. People were getting polio before DDT was ever developed.
You get polio when it enters the body from say the intestine or the throat, right? If it stays inside the gut, which is true with like 97% of the people infected with the polio virus, there is no expressed sickness.

So the tonsillectomies were considered possible insertion points of the polio virus, DDT damaging the gut. You get leaky gut syndrome from any number of things. Some say childhood vaccines. What the video postulated is that these things afforded the polio virus an opportunity to invade the body. So instead of getting a childhood polio vaccine the doctor was interested in removing the probable insertion points of the virus.

I didn't watch the video... I skimmed and I'm guessing at the obvious parts because I didn't hear her entirely. I'm trying to find it on my to do videos queu an I seem to have misplaced it. You give a listen. Let me know if I'm way off base.

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I'm remembering her fascinating breast feeding comments about the very high value it has for boosting the child immune system and how the polio kids weren't breast fed. I'm telling you fascinating stuff. Go for it Dr. ETR. I'm going to find it and watch from start to end. Seems worth it.
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
Ans: The Spanish Flu of 1918.

They had no vaccines nor therapeutics. Just masks, cleanliness, and far less immediate global travel. And after two years the deadly flu became more transmissible and far less lethal. Nine out of ten viral epidemics do just that.

Here we are in the second year and the question is up in the air as to which way Covid will go. If it stays it will be because the vaccines drove more deadly variants. Every vaccinated person is turning out to be a potential Typhoid Mary.

Some more background:

In 1918, a novel strand of influenza killed more people than the 14th century’s Black Plague.

At least 50 million people died worldwide because of that H1N1 influenza outbreak. The dead were buried in mass graves. In Philadelphia, one of the hardest-hit cities in the country, priests collected bodies with horse-drawn carriages....

...But the strand of the flu didn’t just disappear. The influenza virus continuously mutated, passing through humans, pigs and other mammals. The pandemic-level virus morphed into just another seasonal flu. Descendants of the 1918 H1N1 virus make up the influenza viruses we’re fighting today.

“The 1918 flu is still with us, in that sense,” said Ann Reid, the executive director of the National Center for Science Education who successfully sequenced the genetic makeup of the 1918 influenza virus in the 1990s. “It never went away.”...

...Experts say there’s this natural progression where a virus often — but not always — becomes less lethal as time wears on. It’s in the best interest of the virus for it to spread before killing the host.

“The natural order of an influenza virus is to change,” Barry told The Post. “It seems most likely that it simply mutated in the direction of other influenza viruses, which is considerably milder.”



How the 1918 flu pandemic ended, according to historians and medical experts - The Washington Post


Food for thought.
 

Mina Park

Council Member
Ans: The Spanish Flu of 1918.

They had no vaccines nor therapeutics. Just masks, cleanliness, and far less immediate global travel. And after two years the deadly flu became more transmissible and far less lethal. Nine out of ten viral epidemics do just that.

Here we are in the second year and the question is up in the air as to which way Covid will go. If it stays it will be because the vaccines drove more deadly variants. Every vaccinated person is turning out to be a potential Typhoid Mary.
The Spanish Flu spread like wildfire -- made worse by a world war, at the time. Around 50 million died, including 675,000 in the US. That makes it about three times as deadly, in per capita terms, as COVID has been so far. And that's all the more remarkable when you consider just how much younger the country was at the time. Half of Americans were in their early 20's or before, back then, versus the median age being almost 40 now.

So, naturally, once that pandemic had burned through the vulnerable part of the population, it faded away, with the survivors having resistance that would make future similar strains less deadly. And COVID would do the same if we let it burn through the population. If we were content to lose another 1.4 million Americans to the disease, or so, it would then go away on its own.

Or we can, instead, use our brains and get it under control with vaccines and other counter-measures. And there's every reason to think that can work. Massachusetts, for example, has one of the nation's highest vaccination rates, and so, despite high population density and median age, it has managed to get this thing under control. In fact, it's been running negative excess mortality in 2021 -- in other words, fewer people have been dying than in a typical year. And the economy has gotten back to normal, with unemployment rates below 5%.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
In infants? What are you suggesting? How are you suggesting they contract it when their parents are clean?

I have never had syphilis, no. Not that it is any of your business.

You and your cohort have distorted what I actually said --- yet again - but go ahead with your belief that Covid is a sexually contracted disease - gained by snorting on your partner, no doubt!
Nobody claimed covid is an STD. You claimed disease isn't spread person to person.
 
The Spanish Flu spread like wildfire -- made worse by a world war, at the time. Around 50 million died, including 675,000 in the US. That makes it about three times as deadly, in per capita terms, as COVID has been so far. And that's all the more remarkable when you consider just how much younger the country was at the time. Half of Americans were in their early 20's or before, back then, versus the median age being almost 40 now.

So, naturally, once that pandemic had burned through the vulnerable part of the population, it faded away, with the survivors having resistance that would make future similar strains less deadly. And COVID would do the same if we let it burn through the population. If we were content to lose another 1.4 million Americans to the disease, or so, it would then go away on its own.

Or we can, instead, use our brains and get it under control with vaccines and other counter-measures. And there's every reason to think that can work. Massachusetts, for example, has one of the nation's highest vaccination rates, and so, despite high population density and median age, it has managed to get this thing under control. In fact, it's been running negative excess mortality in 2021 -- in other words, fewer people have been dying than in a typical year. And the economy has gotten back to normal, with unemployment rates below 5%.
Since you are only thirty, you can only know of this so called flu third or fouth hand. What have you learned of it through your family?
 

Mina Park

Council Member
Since you are only thirty, you can only know of this so called flu third or fouth hand. What have you learned of it through your family?
I try not to make the mistake of relying on first-hand experience -- or third or fourth hand, for that matter. It's a bit like observing the world through a keyhole, and assuming whatever happened to pass in front of that view is representative of the wider world. We all have very limited personal experience, since we all only live as a single person. And even if we collect experiences of friends and family, many of them will have the same restrictions of experience as we have (e.g., a disproportionate share of my family members and social circles are highly educated Korean Americans living in the urban parts of the Northeast US, which isn't exactly a representative sampling). So, rather than judging by whatever happens to be in the line of sight of my little keyhole view of the world, I judge by statistical evidence whenever I can.
 
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