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EatTheRich

President
Yes, and the vaccinated can (and do) contract the virus and can (and do) transmit it to others, so, well, what the f*ck is your point?
They contract the virus at about 60% of the rate, have serious cases if infected at 3% of the rate of people of the same age and with similar health conditions, and infect on average half as many people if they are infected.
 

EatTheRich

President
No, lefty’s deficient, deranged psychology requires that he control and limit people outside of himself in order to feel fulfilled; it is only through the limitation and control of others that lefty can find happiness.

It is a distinct mental illness.
How lefty deprives others of freedom: insisting they wear a mask in close indoor situations and not drive drunk.
How righty deprives others of freedom: killing them on a regular basis by refusing to do as lefty insists.
 

RickWA

Snagglesooth
How lefty deprives others of freedom: insisting they wear a mask in close indoor situations and not drive drunk.
How righty deprives others of freedom: killing them on a regular basis by refusing to do as lefty insists.
Lefty is incapable of tending to/minding his own business as he goes about “child-proofing” the world. Volition and autonomy are anathema to lefty as he metes out his molestation-abuse-victim control freak pathology on everyone else.

No matter what the perceived issue, the lefty solution is invariably public entity empowerment and private entity/individual diminishment. While I regret that you folks were victimized by people you trusted early in life, I reject your constant demand for greater reach and control of our lives. Go live your lives and stay out of ours.
 

EatTheRich

President
Lefty is incapable of tending to/minding his own business as he goes about “child-proofing” the world. Volition and autonomy are anathema to lefty as he metes out his molestation-abuse-victim control freak pathology on everyone else.

No matter what the perceived issue, the lefty solution is invariably public entity empowerment and private entity/individual diminishment. While I regret that you folks were victimized by people you trusted early in life, I reject your constant demand for greater reach and control of our lives. Go live your lives and stay out of ours.
You have proven that you will insist on acting like children and it’s getting people killed by the millions. Someone has to step in to stop you and the hegemonic authoritarian forces with which you are allied.
 

RickWA

Snagglesooth
You have proven that you will insist on acting like children and it’s getting people killed by the millions. Someone has to step in to stop you and the hegemonic authoritarian forces with which you are allied.
And there we have it. That wasn’t so difficult now, was it? For all to see - leftism…at it’s very heart. Imaginary authoritarianism demands that lefty invoke real, liberty-crushing, centrally-planned authoritarianism. Lefty simply cannot allow the horrific machinations of freedom to go unchecked.
 

EatTheRich

President
And there we have it. That wasn’t so difficult now, was it? For all to see - leftism…at it’s very heart. Imaginary authoritarianism demands that lefty invoke real, liberty-crushing, centrally-planned authoritarianism. Lefty simply cannot allow the horrific machinations of freedom to go unchecked.
The authoritarian nature of the capitalist state and the capitalist private property system it makes possible are notorious. Nothing is more authoritarian or Liberty-crushing than forcing death on the unwilling. From Nagasaki to Nanking, from Holocaust to Hiroshima, from Bengal Famine to Trail of Tears, the system you insist on has been killing us, regimenting our existence, telling us where to live, what to eat, whether or not our lives should be sacrificed to the convenience of those a bit better off financially (sound familiar?), whether we will be allowed a job, or be free not to work for another.
 
Veterans have always been used as guinea pigs for testing vaccines
Animals, Orphans, Prisoners and Soldiers. After Clinton signed the EO which allowed Miltary personnel to be vacinated with untested experimental ''drugs''/posions - squaline was used as an adjuvant (sticking agent) - they put it in some Flu jabs one year too. I had researched squaline - it is horrific. The man who did the most work with it was a very nasty vivisectionist - even he was so horrified by the agonies of his animal victims that he thought that it should never be used but we, the people, are now so ignorant of 100yr old findings that we trustingly go along with these monsters ............
 
And there we have it. That wasn’t so difficult now, was it? For all to see - leftism…at it’s very heart. Imaginary authoritarianism demands that lefty invoke real, liberty-crushing, centrally-planned authoritarianism. Lefty simply cannot allow the horrific machinations of freedom to go unchecked.
All for our own good Rick!
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Animals, Orphans, Prisoners and Soldiers. After Clinton signed the EO which allowed Miltary personnel to be vacinated with untested experimental ''drugs''/posions - squaline was used as an adjuvant (sticking agent) - they put it in some Flu jabs one year too. I had researched squaline - it is horrific. The man who did the most work with it was a very nasty vivisectionist - even he was so horrified by the agonies of his animal victims that he thought that it should never be used but we, the people, are now so ignorant of 100yr old findings that we trustingly go along with these monsters ............
Many concerned with the mandatory bullshit.............Senile Joe doesn't have the constitutional authority to do that

Freed donuts and $100 to take the Jab is a reason to question it
 

SW48

Administrator
Staff member
Supporting Member
Would a more effective vaccine reduce the risk of breakthrough infections from its current level of 0.02% per week and reduce the relative risk of dying compared to an unvaccinated person below its current factor of 0.025? Sure. Does that change the fact that there are strong negative correlations between population vaccination levels and incidence of Covid/Covid death, or that more than 98% of those dying of Covid every week are unvaccinated? Of course not.
Eattherich is spot on.

we knew there would be breakthrough cases when the vaccine came out.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Eattherich is spot on.

we knew there would be breakthrough cases when the vaccine came out.
Question
You're an baseball Umpire if memory is correct
Stadium has what 20/50,000 fans shoulder to shoulder MASKLESS
Would that be what PJ leftist call a SUPER SPREADER?
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Eattherich is spot on.

we knew there would be breakthrough cases when the vaccine came out.
A growing number of well qualified scientists are saying this is what is driving all of the variants (and will ultimately make things worse).
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Of the two of us (again), which one actually sat in on these kinds of meetings?
Why in hell would I care what meetings you've been to? What do you think the conversation meant? They were not talking about falsifying data. They were talking about whether they should include people who were no longer being treated for Covid, but folks like the long haulers or other side effects of covid as covid patients and the conversation had to do with accuracy. They also talked about how to stress the importance of vaccination....

Gee, damn them to hell, eh bubba?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
A growing number of well qualified scientists are saying this is what is driving all of the variants (and will ultimately make things worse).
Sure thing...where did the delta variant come from again? Oh yeah, India where the vaccine rate when that broke out was minimal....
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
You don’t need a degree in virology to understand the basics of evolution. You just need to have not failed middle-school science as so many here clearly did.
Indeed:

White House immunologist Dr Anthony Fauci:

‘I must warn that there’s also the possibility of negative consequences, where certain vaccines can actually enhance the negative effect of the infection.’

‘Do you get an enhancement effect? There have been a number of vaccines, when the vaccine induces a sub-optimal response and when the person gets exposed they have an enhanced pathogenesis (development) of the disease.'
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Sure thing...where did the delta variant come from again? Oh yeah, India where the vaccine rate when that broke out was minimal....
It was first identified in India - you have no idea where it "came from." But not knowing shit has never kept you from pontificating, has it?
 
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