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Zam-Zam

Senator
weird stuff... couldnt say what is was when the Trump shitshow was going on...yet the crazed spewed...unrest..danger....and so on and poof..in they should come...


yet in Haiti.....the president got assassinated..... and nope..no concerns that may warrant asylum... pack em up.


odd

From the Department of That's Different, etc.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
How does the president being assassinated mean that people need to flee?
How many US residents fled the country after the attempt on Reagan's life? How about Nov 23 1963?

I have not heard of widespread violence there...but there is widespread poverty and devastation caused by the storms and earthquakes.

The law in the US only recognizes fear of repression and violence as legit reasons to request asylum in the US...
does it indicate unrest in their country? would go to grounds for asylum.... no?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Thought the wall was an complete failure?

What is this miracle vaccine? I only know of Pfizer, moderns and jnj in the US
Would you agree that the money Trump spent on the wall had no impact at all or did it solve the problem....even a little bit?
 

Drumcollie

* See DC's list of Kook posters*
Odd that the U.S. has consistently done the same cruel thing for decades?
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Cruel...Compared to what? Socialism in all it's forms.

Hitler killed 6.5 million
Stalin killed 20 to 40 million
Mao killed 40 to 60 million
Pol Pot killed 2.5 million

There is up to 109 plus million that would have loved to be sent home. Thanks Socialism.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
ok. so, Hatians bad. Turn away is good. Shrieking when trump does it...is a-ok. Not appropriate when Biden does it....is good to do it.
I told you what the law says and made no comment on illegal immigrants from Mexico, Honduras or Guatemala, as those are the majority of illegals crossing the southern border. There is a huge number of immigrants from other countries who get visitor or student visas and just stay...anyone talking about rounding them up?
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
I told you what the law says and made no comment on illegal immigrants from Mexico, Honduras or Guatemala, as those are the majority of illegals crossing the southern border. There is a huge number of immigrants from other countries who get visitor or student visas and just stay...anyone talking about rounding them up?
Cool. You did make mention of Haitians did you not? A potential reason for asylum that they might list might be the unrest in their country, namely as the result of the assassination of their president. Possible?
 

EatTheRich

President
no. not doing that. I'm ridiculing the posturing left for the two faced hypocrites they are.
Again, you are pretending that most of the push back Trump got was hypocritical “posturing” and not sincere expression of horror by the same people who were pushing back against Obama before and are pushing back against Biden now.
 

EatTheRich

President
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Cruel...Compared to what? Socialism in all it's forms.

Hitler killed 6.5 million
Stalin killed 20 to 40 million
Mao killed 40 to 60 million
Pol Pot killed 2.5 million

There is up to 109 plus million that would have loved to be sent home. Thanks Socialism.
Hitler and Pol Pot were leaders in capitalist countries. You might be able to get a figure of 60 million killed by Stalin and Mao (a symptom of socialism’s weakness which made it prey to those emulators of capitalism) … which is about the same number killed by capitalism every 3 years.
 

EatTheRich

President
Haitians, apparently, are being targeted for removal by this administration:


Biden admin to step up deportation of Haitians to address migrant surge, documents say


Biden admin to step up deportation of Haitians to address migrant surge, documents say (nbcnews.com)


Give us your poor, your tired, etc. - but not your Haitians...
Just as they are stepping up deportations of Mexicans, Guatemalans, and Hondurans … there is no fundamental difference between Biden’s approach and Trump’s.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
Again, you are pretending that most of the push back Trump got was hypocritical “posturing” and not sincere expression of horror by the same people who were pushing back against Obama before and are pushing back against Biden now.
Nope. Noting the difference. Both deserved
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Cool. You did make mention of Haitians did you not? A potential reason for asylum that they might list might be the unrest in their country, namely as the result of the assassination of their president. Possible?
Feel free to look into the part of the law related to requesting asylum if you are curious about any mention of "unrest".
 
Not sure what hate you see evidence of...

The law says if someone is on US soil they can request asylum. Haitians are doing so in large numbers due to the recent storms and earthquakes. That is not grounds for asylum. So as INS reviews applications we find little reason to allow them to stay in the US and are returning them directly to Haiti.

That is the law.
Doormat France Gave Asylum to Ayatollah Khomeini. Enough Said.

End the asylum policy; it's too easy to abuse. Even a legitimate asylum-seeker has a duty to stay in his own country and fight to change what is wrong there. Also, that jihadi Turk cleric should be deported as a friendly gesture to Erdogan, whom we need to be at least neutral towards us.
 
You mean in that different rules apply to people from Cuba (and nowhere else)?
Annexation Nixed by Elitist Anti-Expansionists
GREAT AMERICANS: Manifest Destiny
DEEP STATISTS: Many Fuzzy Dust Bunnies


As early as the 1820s, President Monroe wanted to annex Cuba and other Caribbean islands. From the Cubans I knew in Miami, I concluded that they are natural Americans. Those who rule Cuba now are natural unAmericans.
 
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