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Jan 6 insurrectionist pleas/sentencing watch

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Fer Chissakes...a pardon is not the same as bail.

Gee! You musta had to watch a hundred Perry Mason episodes for THAT legal tidbit.

No "legal" protester was arrested. They broke windows and doors. They attacked the police...Why did they do that? The fact is that Trump told them to go a fight like hell to stop the election. That, by definition, was an insurrection.

Trump did NOT tell them to fight like hell to stop the election. The election was stopped on Election Night. All Trump did was hold a LEGAL protest. Goons from YOUR side of the aisle broke into Congress.

Had it been a real insurrection, several Congress members would be dead or in the hospital. There was almost a half a MILLION legal protestors at that LEGAL protest.

Trump supporters were not guilty of ANY crimes.
No, the election process ends with the Congress accepting the count of electors. Read the constitution some time.

You seem to skip right on past the "Go and fight like hell" to "Stop the steal" or "You won't have a country any more"....which a couple thousand Trump supporters interpreted as "stop the election" and to use violence if needed to do so.

What did Giuliani mean by "let's have trial by combat"? Since he had lost dozens of cases in court...seemed to me like a riot was the last chance to keep Trump in office.
 
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EatTheRich

President
Then why compare pardons to bail?

You made the comparison. All I did was point out that the Ugandan Giant posted the BAIL of a REAL criminal, (who has since committed more violent riot crimes.) I wanted newly elected President Trump to do the right thing and pardon the innocent LEGAL protestors for Jan 6. He probably won't, since he'll have so much other work to do trying to save this country.

600 or so people have been arrested. All had links to pro-Trump groups...OathKeepers, three percenters...Proud boys....various right wing militias. There were even some former republican candidates for office and people fairly High up in the republican party.

That's a lie. Most of the rioters were ANTIFA.

Who do you have that is not a Trumplican?

Only idiots. And they only make up about 30 percent of America.


While there were thousands who did not riot on Jan 6, there were also a couple thousand who did. They had marching orders from Trump and Giuliani. Let's have trial by combat....let's go fight like hell to stop the "steal"....but what that really meant to the rioters was to stop the election.

That is a lie. Trump NEVER SAID "TRIAL BY COMBAT." If you somehow think you can win arguments by LYING, you're dumber than we all thought.

From the speech:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2021/annotated-trump-speech-jan-6-capitol/

I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.13

Nothing about rioting in the Capitol.

Didn't see it? Let's try again.

I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.13

In other words, YOU LIED.
How do you patriotically demand that an elected office be taken away from the election winner and awarded to the loser?
 

God of War

Governor
Once again...there is no recognized standard for what you call a forensic audit.

So now let's look at your details....cuz they represent some pretty stupid allegations of fraud.

1. Really? Ballots that are not valid government issued ballots? Have you found any evidence at all of that? No...but let's re-examine the 150 million ballots just in case. Or is it only in the states Trump lost that you think that is necessary?

So how would it be possible to somehow introduce a bunch of counterfeit ballots into the count? The number of ballots for in person must match the number of voters recorded in Poll books. So how did that happen if someone was putting tens of thousands of ballots into the count? They would have to be pulling a matching number of ballots out at the same time and it would have to be an exact match.

If you are talking about counterfeit absentee ballots the process for counting them must be a mystery to you. Every envelope is marked with a bar code. It is registered to the voter. The bar code must match the voter record, address, name and signature.
What you propose is that someone had access to the record of ballots sent out to figure out which ones could be forged. Then they'd have to print up the envelopes, bar code them and have people signing them...AND print up the ballots.

Where is there any evidence of that?

I think you should be investigated for dealing drugs. I don't have any evidence, but better safe than sorry...right? Statistical analysis shows the odds are good that an investigation would be appropriate...maybe even a body cavity search and forensic audit of your finances.
You can yap all you fukin want about this but you are not satisfying the need for a forensic audit. Just start asking for one or YOU are part of the problem.
 

EatTheRich

President
Because your cunts at google censor things not leftist? Maybe you should talk to them about the problem and how it is leading to greater dissatisfaction with the status quo they seem too comfy with.
You seem to have no problem linking to all kinds of right-wing bullshit. What you can’t do is link to a source that fact checks that supports the claims made by your propaganda outlets.
 

EatTheRich

President
I don't trust the police to investigate their own agency's shooting. I don't trust Secretaries of State nor local election officials to investigate their own shootings either.
You think that half a dozen Republican Secretaries of State and hundreds of Republican local election officials, plus hundreds more Republican poll watchers, all connived at a maneuver executed with military precision to deprive Trump of the election?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
You can yap all you fukin want about this but you are not satisfying the need for a forensic audit. Just start asking for one or YOU are part of the problem.
you can yap all you like about the need for forensic audits, but just saying there should be one does not establish the need.

That would be exactly the same as me demanding a forensic audit of your finances because I think you cheat on your taxes. No evidence needed, right
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
I don't trust the police to investigate their own agency's shooting. I don't trust Secretaries of State nor local election officials to investigate their own shootings either.
and of course Logan and the Cyber Numbnuts were the people you trust.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Because your cunts at google censor things not leftist? Maybe you should talk to them about the problem and how it is leading to greater dissatisfaction with the status quo they seem too comfy with.
Google is not the only search engine...your excuse is a lame dodge.
 

God of War

Governor
You think that half a dozen Republican Secretaries of State and hundreds of Republican local election officials, plus hundreds more Republican poll watchers, all connived at a maneuver executed with military precision to deprive Trump of the election?
I think Philadelphia, Detroit, Milwaukee, and Atlanta did a dirty deed.
 

God of War

Governor
You seem to have no problem linking to all kinds of right-wing bullshit. What you can’t do is link to a source that fact checks that supports the claims made by your propaganda outlets.
Take your shots. Keep your rapey hands off those who don't want it you reckless mandating mofo's.
 

reason10

Governor

No, the election process ends with the Congress accepting the count of electors. Read the constitution some time.


And yet you idiots spent THREE YEARS trying to undo the Trump landslide over Hillary, with that MILLION DOLLAR witch hunt.


You seem to skip right on past the "Go and fight like hell" to "Stop the steal" or "You won't have a country any more"....which a couple thousand Trump supporters interpreted as "stop the election" and to use violence if needed to do so.


Probably because Trump never said those words. I downloaded the exact speech. You may think you're clever by stringing things together out of context (and MSNBC is FLOODED with idiots who do the same thing) but you don't come anywhere NEAR actual facts.

What did Giuliani mean by "let's have trial by combat"? Since he had lost dozens of cases in court...seemed to me like a riot was the last chance to keep Trump in office.

What did Joe mean by "I like having sex with children?" What did Kamala Harris mean by "we should legalize meth labs." What did Pelosi mean by "We need to lock up the Jews and bring back the camps?"

Since you are LYING about what people say, I might as well continue the trend.

You have ZERO credible links to back up your lies.

And that's all they are. LIES.
 

God of War

Governor

No, the election process ends with the Congress accepting the count of electors. Read the constitution some time.


And yet you idiots spent THREE YEARS trying to undo the Trump landslide over Hillary, with that MILLION DOLLAR witch hunt.


You seem to skip right on past the "Go and fight like hell" to "Stop the steal" or "You won't have a country any more"....which a couple thousand Trump supporters interpreted as "stop the election" and to use violence if needed to do so.


Probably because Trump never said those words. I downloaded the exact speech. You may think you're clever by stringing things together out of context (and MSNBC is FLOODED with idiots who do the same thing) but you don't come anywhere NEAR actual facts.

What did Giuliani mean by "let's have trial by combat"? Since he had lost dozens of cases in court...seemed to me like a riot was the last chance to keep Trump in office.

What did Joe mean by "I like having sex with children?" What did Kamala Harris mean by "we should legalize meth labs." What did Pelosi mean by "We need to lock up the Jews and bring back the camps?"

Since you are LYING about what people say, I might as well continue the trend.

You have ZERO credible links to back up your lies.

And that's all they are. LIES.
Lies indeed. The Sixers were patriots as were the Capitol Police. The cowards were congress. Teddy took a shot and kept right on with his Milwaukee speech as could have any congressman that Sixer-day. We are a lesser people.
 
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