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Quelling skepticism in the voting process..

God of War

Governor
Plenty like what ?

I want to hear the evidence.

Show and tell
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
You mean like the Boston Tea Party, The Boston Massacre and the whole revolutionary war were unethical and immoral? ha ha

That kind of reaction of protesting the capitol at one time would have had the officials that be demanding a bi-partisan commission to count the votes (and forensically too) and prove how badly Trump lost once and for all.

The righteous anger against the steal (true or not) was and is highly moral and ethical given how the call for accounting was not answered.

Um. No. I mean the capital riot. No one there was rioting for anything as noble as what you referenced.

There was no steal. Just gullible persons falling for a line
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
Have you @PhilFish @Spamature @Bugsy McGurk read my signature?

YOU ask for proof before allowing for an actual investigation!?! What the [Unwelcome language removed] kind of shit is that? Suspicion is the threshhold for an investigation.

Bullshit. I suspect you're a murderer. If I get a second....do we get to call the police?
 

Spamature

President
Let's see...

Deliberate removal of mailboxes
Fake ballots
Slowing/holding the mail
Decommissioned mail sorters on purpose
Russian hacking of vote machines
Xeroxing paper ballots
Hiding ballots
Ballots appearing/disappearo in the night
Oh, Russia ...
Identification is too High a hurdle for minorities..

To list just a few
They did remove mail boxes
Mail did slow down
Mail sorters were decommissioned

There is no conspiracy theory as to whether or not they happened.
These were all policy decision by that current administration.
There was concern that they would hamper votes being received on time.

No credible evidence of :
fake ballots.
Russia\China\Ghost of Hugo Chavez, hacked voting machines
Magic ballots that appear or disappeared



PS
Voter ID is a points shaving scheme.
What there is almost no evidence of voter impersonation.
Which is the only crime a voter ID law could prevent.
Also like I said illegal voting is the easier crime to prove.
The perp leaves behind all the info needed to catch them
Name
Address
Phone
Signature
Fingerprints and witnesses to the act.
Date crime was perpetrated.

So why aren't there hundreds of thousands of arrest and convictions ?
 
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Spamature

President
Willful ignorance isn't a defense.

Look just because you went to be uninformed and woke up surprised because you weren't informed is not a reason for an investigation.

It is a reason for you to pay more attention.
We were told time and time again that mail in ballots would take longer to count.

 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
They did remove mail boxes
Mail did slow down
Mail sorters were decommissioned

There is no conspiracy theory as to whether or not they happened.
These were all policy decision by that current administration.
There was concern that they would hamper votes being received on time.

No credible evidence of :
fake ballots.
Russia\China\Ghost of Hugo Chavez, hacked voting machines
Magic ballots that appear or disappeared



PS
Voter ID is a points shaving scheme.
What there is almost no evidence of voter impersonation.
Which is the only Crime a voter ID law could prevent.
Also like I said illegal voting is the easier Crime to prove.
The perp leaves behind all the info needed to catch them
Name
Address
Phone
Signature
Fingerprints and witnesses to the act.
Date Crime was perpetrated.

So why aren't there hundreds of thousands of arrest and convictions ?
No. They were planned during the administration preceding Trump, and have been in process for years. Mail has been slowing down for years. Did you read about the 3 to 5 day delivery shift in last week's news? Planned for years

OR. Per your logic....the Biden administration is already planning to disenfranchisement of voters for these midterms and future elections. ?

See...your game goes both ways .
 

God of War

Governor
Look just because you went to be uninformed and woke up surprised because you weren't informed is not a reason for an investigation.

It is a reason for you to pay more attention.
We were told time and time again that mail in ballots would take longer to count.

Tell it to 10's of millions some of who stormed the capitol over the matter of a stolen election. But of course stick you head in the sand about what others believe or the need to bring them back into the fold. You REALLY, REALLY know what you're talking about.
 

God of War

Governor
Bullshit. I suspect you're a murderer. If I get a second....do we get to call the police?
 

God of War

Governor
Tens of millions believe in Santa clause....
They certainly do and in their contract with parents the clause referring to Santa is all about behaving nice. You kill that clause and the kids get very naughty. Something parents must think about.

I hope your analogy sinks in.
 

God of War

Governor
Um. No. I mean the capital riot. No one there was rioting for anything as noble as what you referenced.

There was no steal. Just gullible persons falling for a line
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
Your musings in another post are proof of zero
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
They certainly do and in their contract with parents the clause referring to Santa is all about behaving nice. You kill that clause and the kids get very naughty. Something parents must think about.

I hope your analogy sinks in.
My bad. I meant Claus. Like in sinterklasse
 

Spamature

President
No. They were planned during the administration preceding Trump, and have been in process for years. Mail has been slowing down for years. Did you read about the 3 to 5 day delivery shift in last week's news? Planned for years

OR. Per your logic....the Biden administration is already planning to disenfranchisement of voters for these midterms and future elections. ?

See...your game goes both ways .
Planned or not, they were aware of the fact that this election would result in millions of ballots to be delivered within a short deadline. So the concern was warranted when it seemed as if the Post Master was determined to carry out cutbacks in spite of there would be an onslaught of mail heading their way.
 
Do you think a bipartisan effort to demonstrate that our voting system..polling systems..counting processes, etc are safe, secure, properly functioning would benefit the nation..
Yes or no?

(Not a recount/it was stolen question...)
No, politics is like professional wrestling. We need the posturing and faux conflict to be entertained.
Holding hands and working together in bipartisan fashion ruins the fun.
 

Spamature

President
Tell it to 10's of millions some of who stormed the capitol over the matter of a stolen election. But of course stick you head in the sand about what others believe or the need to bring them back into the fold. You REALLY, REALLY know what you're talking about.
They were told this.
They've decided, like you, to believe the lie instead.

Why do you believe a something that you, yourself, can't even provide evidence for ?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Do you think a bipartisan effort to demonstrate that our voting system..polling systems..counting processes, etc are safe, secure, properly functioning would benefit the nation..
Yes or no?

(Not a recount/it was stolen question...)
I absolutely agree that it is a matter of people who do not understand the process or the safeguards who seem to think the election is like everyone dropping a folded bit of paper in a hat.

It should be a priority to educate people about what happens with your ballot. How it is protected from theft or modification...how it is secured and processed.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
A truly independent commission to study such things would be fine by me. For example, a commission that would debunk the insane GOP lies about Dominion. But even if such a commission provided its conclusions to the nation, the wackjob Trump supporters wouldn’t accept those conclusions, so it seems to be a waste of time.
I don't think a study is needed. Each state should provide complete documentation of the process from the time you enter a polling station or mail your ballot. If people knew the process they would understand how bizarre the accusations are.
 
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