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USA Must Divide Into 2 Seperate Countries

protectionist

Governor
And I've posted a response proving your sources have already been debunked.

By the way...you focused on that giant surge of ballots for Biden...which was Milwaukee sending in their results.

In 2012 Obama got 227,384 in Milwaukee...Romney got 56,553
In 2016 Trump got 45,411 and Clinton got 188,657
In 2020 Biden got 194,661 and Trump got 48,414...


The "statistical analysis" was done by a partisan hack looking for an excuse to support Trump's claim of a stolen election.
Sez you, YOU are the "partisan hack. Wisconsin's vote dump was obvious to everyone, then and now, Nothing is changed since November 2020, except that the country has been mangled by the madman-idiot in the White House, and the American people are taking the hit, big-time.
 

protectionist

Governor
Given that all of your sources have now been shown to be crap...you run away?
"shown" by you ? HA HA HA.

PS - I don't post everyday like you do. I don't live just for this forum (or the other forums I post in) I actually go out and live life.

Now I'll go to the threads about Merritt Garland, and see if anyone has posted single NAME of any of the persons Garland claims is "attacking & threatening school board members" ( so far I havent seen ONE, including in the illustrious NBSA letter to Joe Biden) 1633775532694.png
 

Sunset Rose

Mayor
Supporting Member
There simply is no room at all in red state America for Democrats. There can be no compromise. We have had enough. Democrats have GOT TO GO, and the sooner the better. The US map must change, with red states being one country. Blue states being another.

Then, no more friction. No more partisan investigation. No more twists of taxpayer money, and if Democrats want to engage in election fraud, sanctuary cities, tolerance of Islam, affirmative action discrimination, gun free zones, riot/looting tolerance, etc, the only victims will be other Democrats.
Will the red states be able to survive without tax money from the blue states? You better think long and hard about this red/blue separation.
 

protectionist

Governor
Will the red states be able to survive without tax money from the blue states? You better think long and hard about this red/blue separation.
Maybe YOU ought to think "long and hard" about this red/blue separation "and whether blue states will able to survive without tax money from the red states, when >>

1. the blue states receive all the welfare drop-outs from the red states
2. the blue states receive all the Biden migrants from the red states (paying low or no taxes)
3. the red states build up home-spun businesses paying taxes and employing people also paying taxes, while blue states continue accepting China imports
4. red state businesses stop losing Billion$$$ to migrant remittances$$, and blue states keep on losing.
5. blue state criminals keep destroying property, allowed by looney mayors, and businesses move to red states
 

Sunset Rose

Mayor
Supporting Member
Maybe YOU ought to think "long and hard" about this red/blue separation "and whether blue states will able to survive without tax money from the red states, when >>

1. the blue states receive all the welfare drop-outs from the red states
2. the blue states receive all the Biden migrants from the red states (paying low or no taxes)
3. the red states build up home-spun businesses paying taxes and employing people also paying taxes, while blue states continue accepting China imports
4. red state businesses stop losing Billion$$$ to migrant remittances$$, and blue states keep on losing.
5. blue state criminals keep destroying property, allowed by looney mayors, and businesses move to red states
To answer my own question: No, the red states will NOT be able to survive without the tax money of the blue states. Thank you for your input. :);)
 
Maybe YOU ought to think "long and hard" about this red/blue separation "and whether blue states will able to survive without tax money from the red states, when >>

1. the blue states receive all the welfare drop-outs from the red states
2. the blue states receive all the Biden migrants from the red states (paying low or no taxes)
3. the red states build up home-spun businesses paying taxes and employing people also paying taxes, while blue states continue accepting China imports
4. red state businesses stop losing Billion$$$ to migrant remittances$$, and blue states keep on losing.
5. blue state criminals keep destroying property, allowed by looney mayors, and businesses move to red states
The History of Other Countries Can Be Relevant

Do you know much about the peaceful separation of Singapore from Malaysia and the peaceful division of Czechoslovakia?

When the Roman Empire split up, the Eastern Empire lasted for a thousand years longer. We can no longer risk being swamped into oblivion by Blue State New Age sewage.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Epoch Times is credible. Oh a "recount" Well that sure solves everything, doesnt it ?Just like in Georgia, recounting the same fraudulent count, is an insult of intelligence.

The stuff you're blabbering is irrelevant and stupid. It doesn't matter if in an open container or were sealed in a closed carrier. What matters is a large number of ballots disappeared, and who says Jesse Morgan disappeared. You ? Guess what - his testimony hasn't disappeared.

There are words of somebody whose words are not credible, all right - Yours.
Where did Morgan testify? Was it under oath? Nah.

Epoch Times is tin foil hat country. And yes it does matter if the containers were sealed because Mr Morgan couldn't possibly know if the ballots were completely filled out.
Why doesn't he have any paperwork on his trip? Truck drivers would have way bills, they'd have paper work from when the truck was weighed on the highway....

You continue to claim that the dominion machines could be hacked and vote totals changed....so how in hell would the hand recount match the machine recount?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
HA HA HA - PoliFARCE. You have the nerve to come in here and use PolitiFARCE as a source ? And oh yes, another of the favorite liberal CATCHWORDS > "debunked"

When a liberal claims somethng has been debunked, you can bet one thing about it - it's TRUE. What liberals have debunked, time and time again, is their use of the word "debunked"

Trump has the election won in the battleground states. Liberals, with their hands on the election counts, took that win and turned it into a loss. The whole country saw it and knows it, including lying liberals infected with Denial Disease.

There were 238,420 ballots from two counties, Dane and Milwaukee, where election clerks filled in missing information on the certification envelope; where voters declared themselves “indefinitely confined”; and roughly 69,000 absentee ballots cast in person before Election Day. Biden won Wisconsin by about 20,000 votes.

There was a suspicious spike in voters registering as “indefinitely confined,” which allows them to be exempt from presenting a photo ID to vote. Year to year, the number of voters calling themselves "indefinitely confined” increased 238% from 72,000 to 243,900. UPDATE: Wisconsin's Supreme Court ruled in favor of Republicans in a lawsuit stating that coronavirus and stay-at-home orders were not legitimate reasons for voters to vote without ID as "indefinitely confined."

Read More

Nearly 400 absentee ballots that were not initially counted were later found. Officials blame "human error.”

Read More

A trickle of votes that had Trump in the lead all night suddenly shifted when 170,000 votes, 5% of the total state count, came in one giant dump 17 times larger than average. Before the dump, Trump was ahead by 108,000 votes. He fell behind by 9,000 votes an instant later.

Politi"fact" View attachment 66217

Now for some REAL sources (credible)

Dominion machines can be altered to manipulate tallies in just a few minutes, using malicious code, according to Princeton professor of computer science and election security expert Andrew Appel.

A ballot can be spoiled or altered by the Dominion machine because “the ballot marking printer is in the same paper path as the mechanism to deposit marked ballots into an attached ballot box,” a study by University of California–Berkeley said.

The voting machines are susceptible to hacking or remote tampering because they are connected to the internet, even though they’re not supposed to be, according to a lawsuit. “If one laptop was connected to the internet, the entire precinct was compromised.”

There is evidence of remote access and remote troubleshooting, “which presents a grave security implication,” according to Finnish computer programmer and election security expert Hari Hursti. His declaration also claims the activity logs of the voting machines can be overwritten by hackers to erase their steps.

Dominion machine operators can change settings to exclude certain ballots from being counted. The ballots can be put in a separate file and deleted simply, according to Ronald Watkins, a software and cyber-security expert who reviewed the Dominion software manual. He also said final vote count involved machine operators copying and pasting the “Results” folder onto a USB drive, a process he calls “error-prone and very vulnerable to malicious administrators.”

In Wisconsin, (jut ONE of numerous fraud states),


At 4 AM, ABC News was reporting Trump waaay ahead in the vote counts of the remaining states (GA, PA, MI, WI, and with a tighter lead in NC) - all heading straight to a 294 electoral vote WIN.

Then, the Democrat FRAUD MACHINE, seeing that they were not going to be able to win legitimately, went into their plan B, and started concocting Biden votes. They weren't very good at it though. In ONE HOUR, Wisconsin went from Trump comfortably ahead 51% to Biden's 47% (1,529K votes to 1,420K), to Wisconsin suddenly reporting a slight lead for Biden.

So we are supposed to swallow it that Biden came up with a whopping 109,000 votes in ONE HOUR. View attachment 66218
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These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information but may require further investigation. See all Left-Center sources.

  • Overall, we rate Politifact Left-Center Biased based on fact checks that tend to be more favorable for the left. We also rate them High for factual reporting and a credible fact-checker that is not without bias.
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  • Overall, we rate The Epoch Times Right Biased and Questionable based on the publication of pseudoscience and the promotion of propaganda and conspiracy theories, as well as numerous failed fact checks.

So yes, politifact leans left...Epoch times is tin foil hat crazy.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
HA HA HA - PoliFARCE. You have the nerve to come in here and use PolitiFARCE as a source ? And oh yes, another of the favorite liberal CATCHWORDS > "debunked"

When a liberal claims somethng has been debunked, you can bet one thing about it - it's TRUE. What liberals have debunked, time and time again, is their use of the word "debunked"

Trump has the election won in the battleground states. Liberals, with their hands on the election counts, took that win and turned it into a loss. The whole country saw it and knows it, including lying liberals infected with Denial Disease.

There were 238,420 ballots from two counties, Dane and Milwaukee, where election clerks filled in missing information on the certification envelope; where voters declared themselves “indefinitely confined”; and roughly 69,000 absentee ballots cast in person before Election Day. Biden won Wisconsin by about 20,000 votes.

There was a suspicious spike in voters registering as “indefinitely confined,” which allows them to be exempt from presenting a photo ID to vote. Year to year, the number of voters calling themselves "indefinitely confined” increased 238% from 72,000 to 243,900. UPDATE: Wisconsin's Supreme Court ruled in favor of Republicans in a lawsuit stating that coronavirus and stay-at-home orders were not legitimate reasons for voters to vote without ID as "indefinitely confined."

Read More

Nearly 400 absentee ballots that were not initially counted were later found. Officials blame "human error.”

Read More

A trickle of votes that had Trump in the lead all night suddenly shifted when 170,000 votes, 5% of the total state count, came in one giant dump 17 times larger than average. Before the dump, Trump was ahead by 108,000 votes. He fell behind by 9,000 votes an instant later.

Politi"fact" View attachment 66217

Now for some REAL sources (credible)

Dominion machines can be altered to manipulate tallies in just a few minutes, using malicious code, according to Princeton professor of computer science and election security expert Andrew Appel.

A ballot can be spoiled or altered by the Dominion machine because “the ballot marking printer is in the same paper path as the mechanism to deposit marked ballots into an attached ballot box,” a study by University of California–Berkeley said.

The voting machines are susceptible to hacking or remote tampering because they are connected to the internet, even though they’re not supposed to be, according to a lawsuit. “If one laptop was connected to the internet, the entire precinct was compromised.”

There is evidence of remote access and remote troubleshooting, “which presents a grave security implication,” according to Finnish computer programmer and election security expert Hari Hursti. His declaration also claims the activity logs of the voting machines can be overwritten by hackers to erase their steps.

Dominion machine operators can change settings to exclude certain ballots from being counted. The ballots can be put in a separate file and deleted simply, according to Ronald Watkins, a software and cyber-security expert who reviewed the Dominion software manual. He also said final vote count involved machine operators copying and pasting the “Results” folder onto a USB drive, a process he calls “error-prone and very vulnerable to malicious administrators.”

In Wisconsin, (jut ONE of numerous fraud states),


At 4 AM, ABC News was reporting Trump waaay ahead in the vote counts of the remaining states (GA, PA, MI, WI, and with a tighter lead in NC) - all heading straight to a 294 electoral vote WIN.

Then, the Democrat FRAUD MACHINE, seeing that they were not going to be able to win legitimately, went into their plan B, and started concocting Biden votes. They weren't very good at it though. In ONE HOUR, Wisconsin went from Trump comfortably ahead 51% to Biden's 47% (1,529K votes to 1,420K), to Wisconsin suddenly reporting a slight lead for Biden.

So we are supposed to swallow it that Biden came up with a whopping 109,000 votes in ONE HOUR. View attachment 66218
1. You say 238,420 ballots in Dane and Milwaukee that clerks filled in missing info.
bullshit.

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There was nothing in your link about county clerks filling in the envelopes.
Dane County...
In 2020 Biden got 260,185 votes to Trump's 78,800.
In 2016 Hillary got 217,697 and Trump got 71,275.

Still think there was some kind of massive creation of fake ballots?

2. I can't read your source on the 400 found ballots.

3. The whine about Trump winning up until you went to bed is simply bullshit...and has been stepped on time and time again. You think in person ballots and absentee ballots are counted at the same time. They aren't. In person ballots are counted first. The process includes updating the voter data base from poll books to indicate that voter voted in person. When that is complete they start counting absentee. The reason is that they have to use the voter data base to verify that the voter didn't already vote.
That explains the gap between when you thought it was over and when the final tally came in.


4. Then there is your reference to professor Appel who could hack a Dominion machine in a few minutes if he had access to the machine with a screwdriver when nobody was looking...You have missed the fact the model he could hack was only used in New Jersey and has largely been obsoleted by models that use a paper ballot...that one didn't.


5. The tabulators are not connected to the internet.

6. Ronald Watkins is an expert in his own mind. He runs a website. He graduated from High School in 2005. He has no computer training, no college level education....but he says he reviewed the Dominion manual. Yeah, that's evidence...
 

protectionist

Governor
Where did Morgan testify? Was it under oath? Nah.

Epoch Times is tin foil hat country. And yes it does matter if the containers were sealed because Mr Morgan couldn't possibly know if the ballots were completely filled out.
Why doesn't he have any paperwork on his trip? Truck drivers would have way bills, they'd have paper work from when the truck was weighed on the highway....

You continue to claim that the dominion machines could be hacked and vote totals changed....so how in hell would the hand recount match the machine recount?
You can keep blabbering all you want about this little technicality or that, and for every one you mention there are others that counter them. They can go back & forth for a month. I'm not going to waste time on that. If you have any guts at all, why dont you show up at my challenge thread ? >>> Quiz for Liberals - True or False | PoliticalJack.com
 

protectionist

Governor
LEFT-CENTER BIAS
These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information but may require further investigation. See all Left-Center sources.

  • Overall, we rate Politifact Left-Center Biased based on fact checks that tend to be more favorable for the left. We also rate them High for factual reporting and a credible fact-checker that is not without bias.
QUESTIONABLE SOURCE
A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing to credible information, a complete lack of transparency, and/or is fake news. Fake News is the deliberate attempt to publish hoaxes and/or disinformation for profit or influence (Learn More). Sources listed in the Questionable Category may be very untrustworthy and should be fact-checked on a per-article basis. Please note sources on this list are not considered fake news unless specifically written in the reasoning section for that source. See all Questionable sources.

  • Overall, we rate The Epoch Times Right Biased and Questionable based on the publication of pseudoscience and the promotion of propaganda and conspiracy theories, as well as numerous failed fact checks.

So yes, politifact leans left...Epoch times is tin foil hat crazy.
Feather in the cap for Epoch Times. Liberal fear-disparage it. No better commendation.
 

protectionist

Governor
1. You say 238,420 ballots in Dane and Milwaukee that clerks filled in missing info.
bullshit.

View attachment 66429


There was nothing in your link about county clerks filling in the envelopes.
Dane County...
In 2020 Biden got 260,185 votes to Trump's 78,800.
In 2016 Hillary got 217,697 and Trump got 71,275.

Still think there was some kind of massive creation of fake ballots?

2. I can't read your source on the 400 found ballots.

3. The whine about Trump winning up until you went to bed is simply bullshit...and has been stepped on time and time again. You think in person ballots and absentee ballots are counted at the same time. They aren't. In person ballots are counted first. The process includes updating the voter data base from poll books to indicate that voter voted in person. When that is complete they start counting absentee. The reason is that they have to use the voter data base to verify that the voter didn't already vote.
That explains the gap between when you thought it was over and when the final tally came in.


4. Then there is your reference to professor Appel who could hack a Dominion machine in a few minutes if he had access to the machine with a screwdriver when nobody was looking...You have missed the fact the model he could hack was only used in New Jersey and has largely been obsoleted by models that use a paper ballot...that one didn't.


5. The tabulators are not connected to the internet.

6. Ronald Watkins is an expert in his own mind. He runs a website. He graduated from High School in 2005. He has no computer training, no college level education....but he says he reviewed the Dominion manual. Yeah, that's evidence...
1. PolitiFARCE.

2. That's funny. I was able to read it perfectly fine >>Group sues to stop Wisconsin from certifying results; 386 absentee ballots found (jsonline.com)

3. No there IS NO explain of a gap because there IS NIO gap. The leftist m[news media ABC, NBC, CBS, all reported trump as the winner, before the cheat dump occured, Go back to sleep.

PS- there never was any trouble before the days of the absentee ballots, which are a recipe for fraud. If you cant get your ass over to the polls to vote, screw you. everybody should vote IN PERSON just it always used to be. And they should vote with a CITIZENSHIP ID, or not at all.

Democrats are scammers, and Republicans need to wake up to that.,

4. there is much more about the Dominion machines and their access to the internet that just that, Read the whole.

5, They were.

6. Yes it is - he's correct.

Now you can move up to the 115 other threads I've started since this one, almost a year ago. I don't have time to dwell on old threads.
 
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middleview

President
Supporting Member
1. PolitiFARCE.

2. That's funny. I was able to read it perfectly fine >>Group sues to stop Wisconsin from certifying results; 386 absentee ballots found (jsonline.com)

3. No there IS NO explain of a gap because there IS NIO gap. The leftist m[news media ABC, NBC, CBS, all reported trump as the winner, before the cheat dump occured, Go back to sleep.

PS- there never was any trouble before the days of the absentee ballots, which are a recipe for fraud. If you cant get your ass over to the polls to vote, screw you. everybody should vote IN PERSON just it always used to be. And they should vote with a CITIZENSHIP ID, or not at all.

Democrats are scammers, and Republicans need to wake up to that.,

4. there is much more about the Dominion machines and their access to the internet that just that, Read the whole.

5, They were.

6. Yes it is - he's correct.

Now you can move up to the 115 other threads I've started since this one, almost a year ago. I don't have time to dwell on old threads.
The claims you are making have been used in over 60 lawsuits...and not one single case has gone in Trump's favor.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
You can keep blabbering all you want about this little technicality or that, and for every one you mention there are others that counter them. They can go back & forth for a month. I'm not going to waste time on that. If you have any guts at all, why dont you show up at my challenge thread ? >>> Quiz for Liberals - True or False | PoliticalJack.com
it is not a technicality that hand recounts match the machine counts. Thar blows any claim of hacking out of the water.
 

protectionist

Governor
it is not a technicality that hand recounts match the machine counts. Thar blows any claim of hacking out of the water.
No it doesn't - the so-called recounts are fabrications just like the whole rest of it. This is the last off topic post I will engage in here.

Post ON TOPIC or get out of the thread.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
The History of Other Countries Can Be Relevant

Do you know much about the peaceful separation of Singapore from Malaysia and the peaceful division of Czechoslovakia?

When the Roman Empire split up, the Eastern Empire lasted for a thousand years longer. We can no longer risk being swamped into oblivion by Blue State New Age sewage.
Or how about the peaceful division of Hungary into Bosnia, Serbia and Croatia...that went really well.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
No it doesn't - the so-called recounts are fabrications just like the whole rest of it. This is the last off topic post I will engage in here.

Post ON TOPIC or get out of the thread.
Reread your top post. You brought election fraud into the thread. Sorry if your attention span doesn't lend itself to more than a day.
 
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