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There is no evidence the Dems cheated in the election. But the evidence that the Republicans tried to cheat is the most documented criminal act ever.

Spamature

President
All of these conspiracy theories.

Yet the GOP was out in the open.

They tried to cheat in the election by launching a plot to attack the Capitol and stop the certification while Trump used the delay to bully conspire with, or bully, state governments into changing their election results, or sending alternate electors (essentially imposters) to change the results of the reconvened certification.

It is a crime where the evidence for it is not in dispute.

Trying to seat your teabagger messiah upon a throne of lies is as Republican as it is DEPLORABLE.
 

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President
18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, § 1, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)
 

God of War

Governor
All of these conspiracy theories.

Yet the GOP was out in the open.

They tried to cheat in the election by launching a plot to attack the Capitol and stop the certification while Trump used the delay to bully conspire with, or bully, state governments into changing their election results, or sending alternate electors (essentially imposters) to change the results of the reconvened certification.

It is a Crime where the evidence for it is not in dispute.

Trying to seat your teabagger messiah upon a throne of lies is as Republican as it is DEPLORABLE.
The election was stolen...

 

Spamature

President
The election was stolen...

Where are your overt acts ?

Overt Act: an outward act that is done in furtherance of a conspiracy, of treason, or of the crime of attempt and that is usually a required element of such crimes for conviction even if it is legal in itself

You accusing the Dems of a crime does not mean that a crime was committed.
Unless you can show me the when, the where, the who, and the how, you have nothing but your bitterness over your loss as evidence.

While the evidence for the crime that Trump and the GOP mobsters committed is in admissions of guilt along with, video, audio, and written documentation.
 
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God of War

Governor
Where are your overt acts ?

Overt Act: an outward act that is done in furtherance of a conspiracy, of treason, or of the Crime of attempt and that is usually a required element of such crimes for conviction even if it is legal in itself

You accusing the Dems of a Crime does not mean that a Crime was committed.
Unless you can show me the when, the where, the who, and the how, you have nothing but your bitterness over your loss as evidence.
Deal with it. 10's of millions of us are not believing your lies.



The elements of the disbelief reduced to the bare minimum for you to begin to understand.

1) I went to bed thinking Trump most likely won. When I woke up he had supposedly lost. I saw statistical anomalies in the voting results that needed explanation.

2) I looked for conservative partisan poll watchers and poll challengers to confirm what happened overnight only to find out that they were kept at a distance from the counting tables, removed from the counting rooms, and then told to go home because the counting was done for the night when the counting actually continued.

3) And this happened in the places exactly where the statistical anomalies occurred: Philadelphia, Detroit, Milwaukee, and Atlanta. Tragically for Americans there were NO conservative witnesses to say that no ballot stuffing nor electronic chicanery had occurred. Therefore, the results in Philly, Mo-town, Old Mil, and Hotlanta are all NULL and VOID. Therefore, Trump actually won and because the truth did not win out over blatant evil corruption the election was in effect stolen.
 

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President
Deal with it. 10's of millions of us are not believing your lies.



The elements of the disbelief reduced to the bare minimum for you to begin to understand.

1) I went to bed thinking Trump most likely won. When I woke up he had supposedly lost. I saw statistical anomalies in the voting results that needed explanation.

2) I looked for conservative partisan poll watchers and poll challengers to confirm what happened overnight only to find out that they were kept at a distance from the counting tables, removed from the counting rooms, and then told to go home because the counting was done for the night when the counting actually continued.

3) And this happened in the places exactly where the statistical anomalies occurred: Philadelphia, Detroit, Milwaukee, and Atlanta. Tragically for Americans there were NO conservative witnesses to say that no ballot stuffing nor electronic chicanery had occurred. Therefore, the results in Philly, Mo-town, Old Mil, and Hotlanta are all NULL and VOID. Therefore, Trump actually won and because the truth did not win out over blatant evil corruption the election was in effect stolen.
1. So you don't believe the truth, and instead you choose to believe Trump.
You're suckers. I keep telling you that, and somehow it isn't getting through.
But it is your problem not America's problem. Which makes you people America's problem.

2. Yes you are looking for partisan conservatives (fellow Republicans) to validate your conspiracies. Again because you want to believe Trump, because you want to believe the lies of a liar. The courts looked at all your evidence and said it was not evidence.

3. Yes, you want to say that Black people cheated you good White Conservatives out of your victory, and if they didn't the Mexicans did.

How come these Blacks and Mexican only stole the Trump election and not the senatorial or congressional elections ?
 

God of War

Governor
1. So you don't believe the truth, and instead you choose to believe Trump.
You're suckers. I keep telling you that, and somehow it isn't getting through.
But it is your problem not America's problem. Which makes you people America's problem.
You've not advanced anything with this bulleted item. Your characterization of being on high and telling things and the disbelievers being suckers is EXACTLY how a leftist control freak thinks.

2. Yes you are looking for partisan conservatives (fellow Republicans) to validate your conspiracies. Again because you want to believe Trump, because you want to believe the lies of a liar. The courts looked at all your evidence and said it was not evidence.
I gave you two links where 10's of millions of Americans in a bipartisan fashion believe the election was stolen. That is a fact. Deal with it. Or not.

3. Yes, you want to say that Black people cheated you good White Conservatives out of your victory, and if they didn't the Mexicans did.
Democrats running those cities for decades cheated in the 2020 election.

How come these Blacks and Mexican only stole the Trump election and not the senatorial or congressional elections ?
Ask them why they found simplicity more expedient. Or ask the Dominion hacks.
 

Spamature

President
You've not advanced anything with this bulleted item. Your characterization of being on High and telling things and the disbelievers being suckers is EXACTLY how a leftist control freak thinks.


I gave you two links where 10's of millions of Americans in a bipartisan fashion believe the election was stolen. That is a fact. Deal with it. Or not.



Democrats running those cities for decades cheated in the 2020 election.



Ask them why they found simplicity more expedient. Or ask the Dominion hacks.
1. Millions believe in a lot of BS. That don't make it so.

2. Give actual evidence not your projections

3. Dominion is suing. Those who made their claims about the company are trying to back away from them. Trump's partners in crime will be called to testify under oath. IF they don't, it's going to mean jail time. Trump isn't here to save them.
 

God of War

Governor
1. Millions believe in a lot of BS. That don't make it so.
Do you miss the point on purpose? Exactly what does that get you?

2. Give actual evidence not your projections
What an extremely retarded thing to say.

3. Dominion is suing. Those who made their claims about the company are trying to back away from them. Trump's partners in Crime will be called to testify under oath. IF they don't, it's going to mean jail time. Trump isn't here to save them.
Dominion lied about no internet access. And now their lawsuits open them up for discovery. The passage of time has allowed them to get rid of the evidence so it will always be a question because of leftist purposeful intransigence in order to foster the division that is their stock in trade.
 

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President
Do you miss the point on purpose? Exactly what does that get you?


What an extremely retarded thing to say.


Dominion lied about no internet access. And now their lawsuits open them up for discovery. The passage of time has allowed them to get rid of the evidence so it will always be a question because of leftist purposeful intransigence in order to foster the division that is their stock in trade.
The simple fact is the Republican plot is out in the open and documented.


You can't defend it. So you try to change the subject to conspiracy theories that were thrown out of court.

You don't care that you committed this crime based upon his lies

Which makes you as guilty of it as your leaders.
 

God of War

Governor
The simple fact is the Republican plot is out in the open and documented.
Simple fact is that there were no guns or weapons of significance that could achieve what is claimed. Not only that once entry was gained the violence associated with regime change did not occur. It was merely protestation. The kind that would have been ameliorated if orderly entry had been granted and security screening had been enforced. Along with a strict number limitation done by counting entries and exits.

You can't defend it. So you try to change the subject to conspiracy theories that were thrown out of court.
I note only defended it successfully but I validated most of the actions of the day to a reasonable degree.

You don't care that you committed this Crime based upon his lies
I wasn't there so you're trying to make my thoughts a crime. That is a hallmark of the left. Obama droned many for less.

Which makes you as guilty of it as your leaders.
See what I mean? You're trying to criminalize your political opposition. The failure of the left to govern and not fall into rulership mode never surprises.
 

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This is interesting.

"As someone who follows contemporary Russia, there is a Russian phrase that comes to mind, which is the 'administrative resource,'" author and Yale University history professor Timothy Snyder said. "What the administrative resource means in Russian is that sure, you have an election, but the people who are running the election are going to determine how the election turns out. What the Republicans are going for is precisely that thing, the administrative resource."

 

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President
Simple fact is that there were no guns or weapons of significance that could achieve what is claimed. Not only that once entry was gained the violence associated with regime change did not occur. It was merely protestation. The kind that would have been ameliorated if orderly entry had been granted and security screening had been enforced. Along with a strict number limitation done by counting entries and exits.
Simple fact is that the sheer number of attackers made unnecessary.
The victims escaped before the seditious mob before they could be taken hostage

There is no entry to be had through riot barricades. It is a clear notice that the facility was closed to entry by the public. You act as if the mob had some inherit right to barge into the hall of congress and interfere with a constitutional process.

NO ! What they did was a crime, plain and simple.

I note only defended it successfully but I validated most of the actions of the day to a reasonable degree.
No you have not.

I wasn't there so you're trying to make my thoughts a Crime. That is a hallmark of the left. Obama droned many for less.



See what I mean? You're trying to criminalize your political opposition. The failure of the left to govern and not fall into rulership mode never surprises.
When the thoughts are to hang the VP and blow the Speaker's brains out, and you express those thoughts verbally while you are searching the hall of congress for those two people.


YOUR THOUGHTS ARE A CRIME.

On top of the crime of sedition.
 

God of War

Governor
Simple fact is that the sheer number of attackers made unnecessary.
The victims escaped before the seditious mob before they could be taken hostage
Drama Queen, right? I knew you cross dressed.

There is no entry to be had through riot barricades. It is a clear notice that the facility was closed to entry by the public. You act as if the mob had some inherit right to barge into the hall of congress and interfere with a constitutional process.
As a matter of fact they do have an INHERITED INHERENT right to address their grievance as much as any Kavanaugh #metoo'er does.

NO ! What they did was a Crime, plain and simple.
Sure, misdemeanor trespassing.


No you have not.
I most certainly did.

When the thoughts are to hang the VP and blow the Speaker's brains out, and you express those thoughts verbally while you are searching the hall of congress for those two people.
It's called free speech. Look into it.

YOUR THOUGHTS ARE A Crime.
Thoughts are not crimes and to the extent they have become crimes they are the refuge of tyrants to be used against their political enemies.

On top of the Crime of sedition.
No guns, no possibility of insurrection, no sedition, no crime.
 

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President
Drama Queen, right? I knew you cross dressed.



As a matter of fact they do have an INHERITED INHERENT right to address their grievance as much as any Kavanaugh #metoo'er does.



Sure, misdemeanor trespassing.



I most certainly did.


It's called free speech. Look into it.


Thoughts are not crimes and to the extent they have become crimes they are the refuge of tyrants to be used against their political enemies.


No guns, no possibility of insurrection, no sedition, no Crime.
You know I am right and you're wrong. You want to claim police barricades are meaningless

You do not have a right to barge into congress and disrupt it.

Here you're saying a mob of Democrats had the right to burst into Trump's SOTU address and attempt to take him hostage because they didn't agree with the election results ?

I know they would not and so you.

Threatening to murder people is not free speech. Especially when you have already committed numerous acts of violence in furtherance of that threat.
 
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