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PETA, Dr. Fauci, Cute Little Puppies

Zam-Zam

Senator
PETA is unhappy, which, granted, is their usual state:

Experimenters Fed Puppies’ Heads to Infected Flies, but That’s Not All Fauci’s NIH Funded

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National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Director Anthony Fauci has come under public attack over torment funded by his agency. This is President Joe Biden’s chance at change—it’s never been clearer that Fauci’s next boss must be pro–modern science and anti-animal testing. New reports allege that Fauci’s National Institutes of Health (NIH) division greenlit tests in which experimenters drugged beagle puppies and locked their heads in cages filled with hungry, infected sandflies. The drug tests were apparently executed even though the Food and Drug Administration doesn’t require new drugs to be tested on dogs.

Fauci’s reported experiments on dogs are just the tip of the iceberg: At NIH, the rot runs deep and it goes to the top. But PETA has the solution. It’s called the Research Modernization Deal: Developed by PETA scientists, it outlines the failure of animal experiments and provides a strategy for eliminating them.


Complete text: Fauci Blesses Feeding Puppies’ Heads to Flies (Report) | PETA


They also have called for Dr. Fauci to resign:


PETA Calls on Fauci to Resign After (More) Allegations His Agency Funded Horrific Experiments on Puppies


PETA Calls on Fauci to Resign After (More) Allegations His Agency Funded Horrific Experiments on Puppies - Foundation for Economic Education (fee.org)


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God of War

Governor
PETA is unhappy, which, granted, is their usual state:

Experimenters Fed Puppies’ Heads to Infected Flies, but That’s Not All Fauci’s NIH Funded

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National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Director Anthony Fauci has come under public attack over torment funded by his agency. This is President Joe Biden’s chance at change—it’s never been clearer that Fauci’s next boss must be pro–modern science and anti-animal testing. New reports allege that Fauci’s National Institutes of Health (NIH) division greenlit tests in which experimenters drugged beagle puppies and locked their heads in cages filled with hungry, infected sandflies. The drug tests were apparently executed even though the Food and Drug Administration doesn’t require new drugs to be tested on dogs.

Fauci’s reported experiments on dogs are just the tip of the iceberg: At NIH, the rot runs deep and it goes to the top. But PETA has the solution. It’s called the Research Modernization Deal: Developed by PETA scientists, it outlines the failure of animal experiments and provides a strategy for eliminating them.


Complete text: Fauci Blesses Feeding Puppies’ Heads to Flies (Report) | PETA


They also have called for Dr. Fauci to resign:


PETA Calls on Fauci to Resign After (More) Allegations His Agency Funded Horrific Experiments on Puppies


PETA Calls on Fauci to Resign After (More) Allegations His Agency Funded Horrific Experiments on Puppies - Foundation for Economic Education (fee.org)


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As human beings we have a different kind of spiritual bond with dogs and horses we don't have with other animals. Maybe it is because we are of the same tribe in terms of mutual survival interest in this world. Maybe the bond is far more than that.

Serial killers are clearly associated with killing animals as they develop their psychopathic personality. So you can tell a lot about a person in how they treat dogs. You can tell a lot about whole cultures actually by how they view and treat dogs.

You look at the bulk of these things regarding Fauci such as his treatment of dogs, his facile use of aborted baby parts, and how he has behaved for this pandemic, if it doesn't give you chills, then you're not paying attention.
 
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Zam-Zam

Senator
As human beings we have a different kind of spiritual bond with dogs and horses we don't have with other animals. Maybe it is because we are of the same tribe in terms mutual survival interest in this world. Maybe the bond is far more than that.

Serial killers are clearly associated with killing animals as they develop their psychopathic personality. So you can tell a lot about a person in how they treat dogs. You can tell a lot about whole cultures actually by how they view and treat dogs.

You look at the bulk of these things regarding Fauci such as his treatment of dogs, his facile use of aborted baby parts, and how he has behaved for this pandemic, if it doesn't give you chills, then you're not paying attention.

People love dogs, no doubt. And most people will not ne fine with what is being done to them by NIH in the name of science. It just doesn't seem right.

I would be surprised if anyone here tried to defend this, but then I've been surprised before. I am certainly not one to always side with PETA, but I think they are right about this.
 

God of War

Governor
People love dogs, no doubt. And most people will not ne fine with what is being done to them by NIH in the name of science. It just doesn't seem right.

I would be surprised if anyone here tried to defend this, but then I've been surprised before. I am certainly not one to always side with PETA, but I think they are right about this.
We work in tandem with dogs and horses. There is something really special in that. It isn't just man as master and dog as tool. I thiink there is something so deep in this, yes secondary by far to fellowship, but even so something on that plane for sure.

Peace out Zam. :0)
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
I'm not a fan of PETA.

I don't hate Dr. Fauci.

Do you have an opinion on the issue of NIH's using puppies in their experiments? Are you fine with it?

Or can you not answer the question?
I said.......PETA is nuts.
Don't believe what you hunted down from some questionable source....to make Fauci look bad. As I said....PETA is nuts.
I know, I know, Trump/Repubs want you all to attack Fauci.....and that's what you're doing.
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
I said.......PETA is nuts.
Don't believe what you hunted down from some questionable source....to make Fauci look bad. As I said....PETA is nuts.
I know, I know, Trump/Repubs want you all to attack Fauci.....and that's what you're doing.

Is Newseek a questionable source also?


Anthony Fauci Facing Quiz Over NIH Funding for 'De-barking' Beagle Puppies


A bipartisan group of lawmakers is seeking answers from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and Dr. Anthony Fauci about funding that was provided for experiments on beagle puppies.

Twenty-four members of the House of Representatives signed a letter to Fauci, who is director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), a part of NIH.

The letter was prompted by the nonprofit group White Coat Waste which obtained documents under the Freedom of Information Act that appear to show NIAID spent $1.68 million in taxpayer money for experiments on beagle puppies in a lab in Tunisia.



Anthony Fauci Facing Quiz Over NIH Funding for 'De-barking' Beagle Puppies (newsweek.com)


Are you fine with this?

Can you answer that?
 
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Zam-Zam

Senator
I said.......PETA is nuts.
Don't believe what you hunted down from some questionable source....to make Fauci look bad. As I said....PETA is nuts.
I know, I know, Trump/Repubs want you all to attack Fauci.....and that's what you're doing.
Fauci sychophants are the sick ones.

Okay, now we've done the name-calling thing. Perhaps from here we can move on and discuss the issue.

So, does anyone have an opinion on NIH's experiments involving beagle puppies?

And can that opinion be expressed free of ad hominem commentary?
 

RickWA

Snagglesooth
Okay, now we've done the name-calling thing. Perhaps from here we can move on and discuss the issue.

So, does anyone have an opinion on NIH's experiments involving beagle puppies?

And can that opinion be expressed free of ad hominem commentary?
Experimentation on dogs is awful… useless experimentation even more so. Sadly, this forum is infested with folks so utterly invested into political party at a canonical/religious level that they will not ever speak out against any of their own. It is remarkably childish - and it is a direct abdication of their very personhood.

But this is the non-entity they choose to be.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
Um...animal testing is the first preclinical step in drug development for any drug.

Any drug. Bunnies, monkeys, dogs, pigs, etc ..

Don't look if you don't want to know. But this is the way.
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
Um...animal testing is the first preclinical step in drug development for any drug.

Any drug. Bunnies, monkeys, dogs, pigs, etc ..

Don't look if you don't want to know. But this is the way.
I understand some would simply rather not know what's in the sausage. I get that.

And I am not a zealot who demands all animal testing stop.

For me, however, dogs are different. Maybe that's not sound logically, but the feeling persists. I doubt that I am in the minority on that one.

Somehow, I think humanity would survive just fine without subjecting man's best friend to what has to be a tortuous and painful death.

So that's where I stand. Thank you, however, for at least having an opinion on the issue rather than just calling someone a name. "Tis becoming rare 'round these parts.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
I understand some would simply rather not know what's in the sausage. I get that.

And I am not a zealot who demands all animal testing stop.

For me, however, dogs are different. Maybe that's not sound logically, but the feeling persists. I doubt that I am in the minority on that one.

Somehow, I think humanity would survive just fine without subjecting man's best friend to what has to be a tortuous and painful death.

So that's where I stand. Thank you, however, for at least having an opinion on the issue rather than just calling someone a name. "Tis becoming rare 'round these parts.
No drug that exists would exist without first having been tested upon animals. As sad as that is. It is what it is.
 
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