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FL election officials: Stop It with Trump's Big Lie

God of War

Governor
Rassmussen did a poll a year ago when Trump and his allies were running around filing lawsuits and nobody had completed an audit or done much to refute the claim. Now only about 30% believe it....because the evidence is overwhelming that Trump lied and continues to lie.

Polls do not constitute proof of election fraud....
You still don't understand your problem. Shame really.
 

God of War

Governor
I still don't believe you...that isn't a problem.
See from the very beginning its been about how tens of millions of Americans don't have faith in the current election process. And you still don't get the importance of a nearly complete buy into the democracy. You are either willfully ignoring the blunt fact or you're incapable of realizing the clear point.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
See from the very beginning its been about how tens of millions of Americans don't have faith in the current election process. And you still don't get the importance of a nearly complete buy into the democracy. You are either willfully ignoring the blunt fact or you're incapable of realizing the clear point.
And...from the very beginning, even more people do believe that Biden won and that Trump is full of shit...

The ones who believe as you do are ignoring the evidence and going with unsubstantiated crap....you seem to be ignoring that, since you continue to be a purveyor of that very same bullshit.

Because Trump is more about personal power and ego than the good of the country he will continue to lie to you and because you are either willfully ignorant or you are simply dishonest as hell, you'll keep on trying to sell it.
 

EatTheRich

President
See from the very beginning its been about how tens of millions of Americans don't have faith in the current election process. And you still don't get the importance of a nearly complete buy into the democracy. You are either willfully ignoring the blunt fact or you're incapable of realizing the clear point.
Nothing will convince those people other than no one but hard-right Republicans supported by their tiny minority ever winning an election again.
 

God of War

Governor
And...from the very beginning, even more people do believe that Biden won and that Trump is full of shit...

The ones who believe as you do are ignoring the evidence and going with unsubstantiated crap....you seem to be ignoring that, since you continue to be a purveyor of that very same bullshit.

Because Trump is more about personal power and ego than the good of the country he will continue to lie to you and because you are either willfully ignorant or you are simply dishonest as hell, you'll keep on trying to sell it.
1 man
1 ID
1 paper ballot
1 day

or go fvck yourself.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
1 man
1 ID
1 paper ballot
1 day

or go fvck yourself.
1 person 1 vote is already the law.
Paper ballots is nearly universal in all states.

1 day? No. Good luck with the republican effort to f*ck the voters by making it harder and harder to vote based on the lies told by Trump and people like you.
 

God of War

Governor
1 person 1 vote is already the law.
Paper ballots is nearly universal in all states.

1 day? No. Good luck with the republican effort to f*ck the voters by making it harder and harder to vote based on the lies told by Trump and people like you.
1 person - makes the vote equal weighted
1 ID - makes sure eligible citizens are voting
1 paper ballot - makes electronic chicanery impossible
1 day - makes ballot stuffing difficult.

There is no negotiating on this really if you want to return even remotely to the buy in my grandparents had. This is a problem the establishment right and left must deal with. What they think really matters the most is on the line. I hope they choose wisely.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
1 person - makes the vote equal weighted
1 ID - makes sure eligible citizens are voting
1 paper ballot - makes electronic chicanery impossible
1 day - makes ballot stuffing difficult.

There is no negotiating on this really if you want to return even remotely to the buy in my grandparents had. This is a problem the establishment right and left must deal with. What they think really matters the most is on the line. I hope they choose wisely.
So we had as much as two weeks to cast early ballots. Any evidence of ballot stuffing?
No.

One person....what? Is anyone arguing that a person should be allowed to vote multiple times? Wouldn't that be against the law? How many prosecutions do you know of where that has happened? Enough to make Trump president? Trump's AG said it didn't.

Paper ballots are the rule in almost all places. Very few are relying on electronic votes without a paper ballot being produced. The head of Cyber Security for the Trump administration says that his team detected no evidence of "electronic chicanery".

One day has nothing at all to do with "ballot stuffing". You clearly do not understand the voting process. If you did you would know that this was a secure election.

You're right...there is no negotiating. For there to be any need you would have to prove the case that fraud happened.
 

God of War

Governor
So we had as much as two weeks to cast early ballots. Any evidence of ballot stuffing?
No.
See you regressed. Missing the point again. Talk till you're blue in the face but the government needs to re-establish trust whether it was falsely or truly lost doesn't matter.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
See you regressed. Missing the point again. Talk till you're blue in the face but the government needs to re-establish trust whether it was falsely or truly lost doesn't matter.
The various state governments of PA, Mi, Wis, Ga and AZ have all conducted audits and recounts. about 30% of voters...almost all of whom think Trump is more credible than the various judges, governors, secretaries of state and elections officials. We'll just have to live with that...and if they don't vote? So much the better. F*ck 'em.
 

God of War

Governor
The various state governments of PA, Mi, Wis, Ga and AZ have all conducted audits and recounts. about 30% of voters...almost all of whom think Trump is more credible than the various judges, governors, secretaries of state and elections officials. We'll just have to live with that...and if they don't vote? So much the better. F*ck 'em.
It's not that they won't vote that's your problem.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
See you regressed. Missing the point again. Talk till you're blue in the face but the government needs to re-establish trust whether it was falsely or truly lost doesn't matter.
So you are saying that proving there was no substantial fraud does not re-establish trust?
Only Trump can do that by admitting it was a free and fair election. Of course, he won't do that because he thinks there is value in the division he has created.
 

God of War

Governor
So you are saying that proving there was no substantial fraud does not re-establish trust?
Only Trump can do that by admitting it was a free and fair election. Of course, he won't do that because he thinks there is value in the division he has created.
Not even Trump has got this.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
1 person 1 vote is already the law.
Paper ballots is nearly universal in all states.

1 day? No. Good luck with the republican effort to f*ck the voters by making it harder and harder to vote based on the lies told by Trump and people like you.
1 day worked fine for decades and all ballots were paper
Leftist know they couldn't win Dog Cather if 1 day returned
 
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