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middleview

President
Supporting Member
When she did, lazy.

Like before the Chauvin verdict.

Some then asked Waters what should happen in the Chauvin trial.

“We’re looking for a guilty verdict,” Waters said. “We’re looking for a guilty verdict and we’re looking to see if all of the talk that took place and has been taking place after they saw what happened to George Floyd. If nothing does not happen, then we know that we’ve got to not only stay in the street, but we’ve got to fight for justice. But I am very hopeful. And I hope that we’re going to get a verdict that says guilty, guilty, guilty. And if we don’t, we cannot go away.”
so you think "fight for justice" is a call for violence but "fight like hell or you won't have a country" isn't?
 

Dino

Russian Asset
so you think "fight for justice" is a call for violence but "fight like hell or you won't have a country" isn't?
I’m saying if you actually have a standard then you’d have to admit Waters was calling for street violence if they didn’t get the verdict they wanted. Odds are you don’t.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Entrapment strike a cord with you? Its an exculpatory legal term. And there was no way the FBI had any intention of breaking with their masters. They feed them.
all you need to do is prove the FBI was inciting the riot...so far you've failed.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
I’m saying if you actually have a standard then you’d have to admit Waters was calling for street violence if they didn’t get the verdict they wanted. Odds are you don’t.
I don't see a call for violence. I hear her calling for people to demonstrate.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Thanks for proving what I already knew.
That I would disagree with you? Yup. That was predictable.

The Riot in DC was just college prank gone wrong and Trump's call for the mob to "Fight like hell or you won't have a country any more" followed by a riot minutes later was just coincidence.

However, someone saying we have to fight for justice is a call for violence...that just hasn't happened yet.
 

Dino

Russian Asset
That I would disagree with you? Yup. That was predictable.

The Riot in DC was just college prank gone wrong and Trump's call for the mob to "Fight like hell or you won't have a country any more" followed by a riot minutes later was just coincidence.

However, someone saying we have to fight for justice is a call for violence...that just hasn't happened yet.
No, the fact is you have differing standards based on which side of the aisle people are on.
It's not uncommon. "Contacts with Russia", bad for Trump, not for Hillary. "Kids in cages" bad for Trump, not for Obama, "Muslim travel ban" bad for Trump not for Obama, "Racist travel restrictions" bad for Trump not for Biden. Calls for "fighting"? Bad for Trump not for ANY Democrat

You see?

The only thing more dependable and predictable than Democrat dishonesty is their complete dependence on HYPOCRISY.
 

reason10

Governor
That I would disagree with you? Yup. That was predictable.

The Riot in DC was just college prank gone wrong and Trump's call for the mob to "Fight like hell or you won't have a country any more" followed by a riot minutes later was just coincidence.

However, someone saying we have to fight for justice is a call for violence...that just hasn't happened yet.
YOu can continue with that lie over and over again and it will not suddenly become the truth.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
No, the fact is you have differing standards based on which side of the aisle people are on.
It's not uncommon. "Contacts with Russia", bad for Trump, not for Hillary. "Kids in cages" bad for Trump, not for Obama, "Muslim travel ban" bad for Trump not for Obama, "Racist travel restrictions" bad for Trump not for Biden. Calls for "fighting"? Bad for Trump not for ANY Democrat

You see?

The only thing more dependable and predictable than Democrat dishonesty is their complete dependence on HYPOCRISY.
1. What contact did the Clinton campaign have with the Russian government or Putin cronies?
2. The Trump administration has documented the requirement that children be separated from their parents. Not so with Obama.
3. Trump restricted travel from Muslim countries because he claimed the people there were terrorists. When did Obama do that?
4. Biden restricted travel from southern African countries. That was due to the covid variant. Is that variant more likely to infect blacks? Nobody called Trump's travel restrictions on China racist. Your interpretation of the quotes is faulty...to say the least.
5. Calls to "fight like hell" followed by a riot within minutes is quite different from a call to fight for justice and not immediately followed by a riot...

Yes, I see.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
YOu can continue with that lie over and over again and it will not suddenly become the truth.
I posted the full context of Trump's speech. Why lie about it? You posted a couple of sentences from a speech that lasted an hour.
 

reason10

Governor
I posted the full context of Trump's speech. Why lie about it? You posted a couple of sentences from a speech that lasted an hour.
No you didn't. You selected what you wanted.

I posted the exact speech (from a reliable source).

And you're still lying.
 

reason10

Governor
1. What contact did the Clinton campaign have with the Russian government or Putin cronies?
https://nypost.com/2021/09/16/fresh-proof-russiagate-scandal-was-created-by-hillary-clinton-campaign/
Fresh proof the Russiagate ‘scandal’ was created by the Hillary Clinton campaign

2. The Trump administration has documented the requirement that children be separated from their parents. Not so with Obama.

That is a lie. (Find someone with an education to 'splain this to you.) Children are routinely separated from parents who are arrested for crimes.
https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article213525764.html
Yes, Obama separated families at the border, too

3. Trump restricted travel from Muslim countries because he claimed the people there were terrorists. When did Obama do that?

That is a LIE. Trump mentioned restricting travel against Muslim countries (since they seemed to be the only ones in the terrorist business) but the only travel restrictions he instituted were against China, mostly because of the Coronavirus.

4. Biden restricted travel from southern African countries. That was due to the covid variant. Is that variant more likely to infect blacks? Nobody called Trump's travel restrictions on China racist. Your interpretation of the quotes is faulty...to say the least.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/flashback-biden-suggested-trumps-coronavirus-travel-ban-xenophobic
Flashback: Biden suggested Trump's coronavirus travel ban was 'xenophobic'


5. Calls to "fight like hell" followed by a riot within minutes is quite different from a call to fight for justice and not immediately followed by a riot...

You have already been caught in that lie. And you continue to tell it over and over again. Edited
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/06/donald-trump-tells-protesters-to-stay-peaceful-after-they-storm-u-s-capitol/

Earlier in the day, President Trump urged his supporters to show their support for members of Congress who objected to the certification of the electoral college vote.


“I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard today,” he said. “We will see whether Republicans stand strong for the integrity of our elections, but whether or not they stand strong for our country, our country, our country has been under siege for a long time, far longer than this four year period.”


There was no fight like hell. Edited
 
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EatTheRich

President
No, the fact is you have differing standards based on which side of the aisle people are on.
It's not uncommon. "Contacts with Russia", bad for Trump, not for Hillary. "Kids in cages" bad for Trump, not for Obama, "Muslim travel ban" bad for Trump not for Obama, "Racist travel restrictions" bad for Trump not for Biden. Calls for "fighting"? Bad for Trump not for ANY Democrat

You see?

The only thing more dependable and predictable than Democrat dishonesty is their complete dependence on HYPOCRISY.
One difference is that Obama didn't have a Muslim travel ban and that Trump was speaking to a horde of seasoned violent radicals when he told them to "fight like hell."
 

EatTheRich

President
1. What contact did the Clinton campaign have with the Russian government or Putin cronies?
https://nypost.com/2021/09/16/fresh-proof-russiagate-scandal-was-created-by-hillary-clinton-campaign/
Fresh proof the Russiagate ‘scandal’ was created by the Hillary Clinton campaign

2. The Trump administration has documented the requirement that children be separated from their parents. Not so with Obama.

That is a lie. (Find someone with an education to 'splain this to you.) Children are routinely separated from parents who are arrested for crimes.
https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article213525764.html
Yes, Obama separated families at the border, too

3. Trump restricted travel from Muslim countries because he claimed the people there were terrorists. When did Obama do that?

That is a LIE. Trump mentioned restricting travel against Muslim countries (since they seemed to be the only ones in the terrorist business) but the only travel restrictions he instituted were against China, mostly because of the Coronavirus.

4. Biden restricted travel from southern African countries. That was due to the covid variant. Is that variant more likely to infect blacks? Nobody called Trump's travel restrictions on China racist. Your interpretation of the quotes is faulty...to say the least.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/flashback-biden-suggested-trumps-coronavirus-travel-ban-xenophobic
Flashback: Biden suggested Trump's coronavirus travel ban was 'xenophobic'


5. Calls to "fight like hell" followed by a riot within minutes is quite different from a call to fight for justice and not immediately followed by a riot...

You have already been caught in that lie. And you continue to tell it over and over again. Edited
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/06/donald-trump-tells-protesters-to-stay-peaceful-after-they-storm-u-s-capitol/

Earlier in the day, President Trump urged his supporters to show their support for members of Congress who objected to the certification of the electoral college vote.


“I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard today,” he said. “We will see whether Republicans stand strong for the integrity of our elections, but whether or not they stand strong for our country, our country, our country has been under siege for a long time, far longer than this four year period.”


There was no fight like hell. Edited
Trump issued orders banning travel from Muslim countries in 2017, but they were shot down by the courts since they were blatantly unconstitutional.
 

Dino

Russian Asset
One difference is that Obama didn't have a Muslim travel ban and that Trump was speaking to a horde of seasoned violent radicals when he told them to "fight like hell."
Yes he did. And Maxine waters was talking to a crowd waiting to do violence if the Chauvin verdict didn’t go their way. It’s all political BS. Just like bogus Russia collusion and impeachment for a phone call.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
You alleged the FBI was inciting the riot. Now you say there were informants...
Their operatives were handing out bear spray and leading the charge to breach the building. While, on the other hand, Alex Jones was yelling into a bullhorn for them to be peaceful and move to the site on the grounds where they had a permit to protest from.
 
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