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Three studies confirm it - boosters are key in avoiding serious Covid illness

Bugsy McGurk

President
I am afraid @Zam-Zam that I am disinclined to take your advice. I'm just not a "turn the other cheek" kind of a guy. I do not believe in separate but equal both-sides-do-it nonsense. Their is pure evil coming from the extreme right in this country and I'm going to fight it every step of the way. Hopefully there will come a time when there will be sensible conservatives. That day is not today.
Why can’t you be nice to people who supported the viciously violent coup attempt on J6, and who now support Trump’s stonewalling and the GOP efforts to destroy our democratic system and replace it with authoritarianism?

Where’s your tolerance?

;-)
 

Joe in Tulsa

Council Member
So all laws throughout the nation governing vaccinations for any and all diseases should be repealed?
Mandatory vaccinations, with no exceptions for religious, medical, or moral grounds are wrong. One size does not fit all. Most vaccinations have long term studies and results so people can weigh the pros and cons. These new covid medications have proven to be ineffective at stopping infection and transmission, there are also reported cases of adverse reactions including death. No thanks, I'm good.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Mandatory vaccinations, with no exceptions for religious, medical, or moral grounds are wrong. One size does not fit all. Most vaccinations have long term studies and results so people can weigh the pros and cons. These new covid medications have proven to be ineffective at stopping infection and transmission, there are also reported cases of adverse reactions including death. No thanks, I'm good.
Your dodge is noted.

Telling.
 

PNWest

America's BEST American: Impartial and Bipartisan
Mandatory vaccinations, with no exceptions for religious, medical, or moral grounds are wrong. One size does not fit all. Most vaccinations have long term studies and results so people can weigh the pros and cons. These new covid medications have proven to be ineffective at stopping infection and transmission, there are also reported cases of adverse reactions including death. No thanks, I'm good.
Hey @Joe in Tulsa - remind me again where any Federal, State, County or Local law actually mandates "vaccinations, with no exceptions for religious, medical, or moral grounds"

The truth is that there are none and you are just putting forward another straw man right wing argument because you cannot deal with the truth.
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
Then you TOLD me "Your side has no problem wanting to tell women what they can and cannot do with their bodies,...", as if every person on "my side" thinks exactly the same way. Does every Democrat think exactly the same thing? Do you not grasp the absurdity of what you are claiming?

I, personally, am vaccinated. I was able to make that choice because I have the freedom to do so, for which I am grateful.

It would be irresponsible of me to deny that same choice to my fellow Americans. Whether I agree with their choice or not is irrelevant - No intelligent person would believe that everyone is going to make the same choices.

And medical decisions are a very personal thing.
So what's responsible citizenship?
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
A lot of things.

One of which, I believe, is upholding the law.

The law allows for people to make their own medical decisions, no?
Responsible citizenship is upholding the law and conducting oneself so as not to harm your fellow citizens. Refusing to take precautions, purposely putting the health of others at risk is not responsible citizenship.
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
Responsible citizenship is upholding the law and conducting oneself so as not to harm your fellow citizens. Refusing to take precautions, purposely putting the health of others at risk is not responsible citizenship.
In your opinion.

Upholding the law is also responsible citizenship.

So there's that.
 

PNWest

America's BEST American: Impartial and Bipartisan
In your opinion.

Upholding the law is also responsible citizenship.

So there's that.
Upholding the law is not the issue. The issue is being a piece of sh!t.

You have the right to cut in front of a slow old lady and grab the last shopping cart. It isn't against the law. If you do it you are a piece of shit.

And leaving the cart for the old lady is being a responsible citizen. You are just saying - it's not illegal. No one said it was.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Upholding the law is not the issue. The issue is being a piece of sh!t.

You have the right to cut in front of a slow old lady and grab the last shopping cart. It isn't against the law. If you do it you are a piece of shit.

And leaving the cart for the old lady is being a responsible citizen. You are just saying - it's not illegal. No one said it was.
They pretend that people may be considered beyond reproach as long as they don’t engage in criminal conduct. That was their position with the Team Trump/Kremlin collusion during the 2016 campaign, and they apply it to all winger conduct.
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
In your opinion.

Upholding the law is also responsible citizenship.

So there's that.
Of course, upholding the law is responsible citizenship. You brought it up first and I'll agree every time. Our democracy is based on the rule of law, no man is above the law.

Purposely putting the health of others at risk is not responsible citizenship. Remember the laws against purposely spreading HIV?

Then there's this. Spreading falsehoods and conspiracies about Covid, masks and vaxs is NOT responsible citizenship.
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
Of course, upholding the law is responsible citizenship. You brought it up first and I'll agree every time. Our democracy is based on the rule of law, no man is above the law.

Purposely putting the health of others at risk is not responsible citizenship. Remember the laws against purposely spreading HIV?

Then there's this. Spreading falsehoods and conspiracies about Covid, masks and vaxs is NOT responsible citizenship.
Correct me if I'm wrong:

Most of your posts center on whom you wish to denigrate.

Is that responsible?
 
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